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Ruise Nyanpasu~ from your subconscious Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: It's not my fault I'm not popular!
Nyanpasu~
#39551: Aug 11th 2016 at 3:20:19 AM

x4 What ordeal

The entire last two episodes. Also the Rubies would not be alone in space forever and probably killed by asteroids.

We better see them again for real Bismuth can stay bubbled I just need to know the Rubies are safe and of course Jasper.

Only reason to not tell them is because they might have taken Jasper's gem back to HW and we're gonna need her later (meta).

edited 11th Aug '16 3:51:17 AM by Ruise

Loves feel-good animation a whole lot.
randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Ghost '11
#39552: Aug 11th 2016 at 3:50:50 AM

Give them a corrupted Jaspee...?

Sure, they could use a good mauling I guess.

And if they did manage to get back to HW successfully...the Diamondo could've shattered Jaspee had they not been able to cure corruption.

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Sunchet Since: Oct, 2010
#39553: Aug 11th 2016 at 4:01:32 AM

Sigh, can I just say that all these numerous unfortunate implications (I don't think I even heard one about rebellious black women) is exactly why many people don't bother with having women/blacks/gays/etc at all? Without them, they're just judged for overusing white straight men, and that's ok, because everyone is judged for that. I mean, Dr Strange movie makers just admitted that no matter what they do, someone will probably call their movie racist.

smokeycut Since: Mar, 2013
#39554: Aug 11th 2016 at 4:10:12 AM

If they actually bothered to try and depict those groups in a respectful and non offensive manner, people wouldn't get upset.

If a butch lesbian says they dislike how all butch lesbians are depicted as ruthless murderers, your response shouldn't be "well I guess I just won't show butch lesbians anymore!"

It should be "Oh, my bad. I'll make sure to not do that, and depict butch lesbians as decent beings from now on."

PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out.
#39555: Aug 11th 2016 at 4:21:12 AM

I don't think I've ever seen a butch lesbian depicted as a ruthless murderer (before Jasper and possibly Bismuth, of course).

Mr.Badguy Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
#39556: Aug 11th 2016 at 4:36:21 AM

You mean besides pretty much all fiction with muscular women, if they're not meant to be jokes because "haha women with muscles are just like dudes lol"

Like, there's straight up a ton of work where if a woman has a non-traditional body, she's bad or at least meant to be kooky and weird. Steven Universe has otherwise completely avoided this, the only really conventionally attractive character is arguably Lapis, but it is unfortunate that the only two muscular characters in the series are violent murderers, even with having depth and complexity to them.

PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out.
#39557: Aug 11th 2016 at 4:41:54 AM

Just in my personal experience with media. I've never actually seen the 'butch lesbian murderer' stereotype. I've seen 'butch lesbian prison rapist', and 'butch female villain', but I've never personally seen 'butch lesbian murderer' until Steven Universe.

AlleyOop Since: Oct, 2010
#39558: Aug 11th 2016 at 4:42:30 AM

Zarya from Overwatch and Rita Vrataski from Edge of Tomorrow are fairly butch and both are heroic.

randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Ghost '11
#39559: Aug 11th 2016 at 4:43:19 AM

[up][up]Just overtly violent...no need to go into specifics of the pedantic variety.

edited 11th Aug '16 4:43:39 AM by randomness4

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smokeycut Since: Mar, 2013
#39560: Aug 11th 2016 at 4:50:50 AM

Zarya is openly racist and flat out says she'll kill the Omnic heroes without remorse.

And, if a butch woman is depicted in a positive light, as some media do nowadays, she's also likely to be a subversion of the "stereotype" that butch women are lesbians, and she'll actually like exclusively men (Bioware does this a lot.)

Thhe problem with that is the fact that butch lesbians aren't a stereotype, they're a large portion of the lesbian community, who dress that way to express their sexuality.

tldr: butch women get the short end of the stick in media, and if people raise complaints about how they're being depicted, you shouldn't throw your hands in the air and decide to stop depicting minorities. You should try to do a better job.

randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Ghost '11
#39561: Aug 11th 2016 at 4:53:04 AM

They shouldn't stop...but they should take a break for a while.

Do some more research...or something.

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darkabomination Since: Mar, 2012
#39562: Aug 11th 2016 at 5:06:27 AM

Let's call this topic done. Bringing some sensitive psychosexual politics into a cartoon thread is touchy, and we don't want to say anything we'd regret. I believe we've all made our opinions clear and there's not much to be gained from continuing. Yes, even for a self-aware show like this.

Let's call it done.

Mr.Badguy Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
#39563: Aug 11th 2016 at 5:18:17 AM

Steven Universe is psychosexual as hell. You don't get to try and divorce that topic just because this time and it bugs you.

randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Ghost '11
#39564: Aug 11th 2016 at 5:21:35 AM

Instant regret...

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Mr.Badguy Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
#39565: Aug 11th 2016 at 5:29:06 AM

It's a show where a fundamental building block is two characters magically boning together. Garnet is literally the product of two Gems who "aren't allowed" together and Peridot asks that they stop being so open about it all the time.

It's okay for people to be disappointed that a specific body type has, twice over, been singled for antagonistic characters.

randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Ghost '11
#39566: Aug 11th 2016 at 5:39:21 AM

Repetitive topic...has yet to go anywhere and no one learns anything.

When the issues are amplified, that's cause for the topic to rise again.

Noooowww Randomness just wants a depressing comic strip of a deceased fetal-position Stephen in a bubble floating through outer-space and the Gems desperately searching for him...endlessly.

edited 11th Aug '16 5:56:52 AM by randomness4

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TheHandle United Earth from Stockholm Since: Jan, 2012 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
United Earth
#39567: Aug 11th 2016 at 6:16:20 AM

[up][up]Big thick body types are intimidating. It's as simple as that.

Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that.
randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Ghost '11
#39568: Aug 11th 2016 at 6:17:53 AM

Don't add fuel to the fire, add fire to the flame...

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Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Disasturbator
#39569: Aug 11th 2016 at 6:24:03 AM

I have some gasoline for the fire!

Now about Jasper And Bismuth,which one should join the crystal gems?(can't have both!)

edited 11th Aug '16 6:24:43 AM by Ultimatum

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randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Ghost '11
#39570: Aug 11th 2016 at 6:27:08 AM

Bismuth is already apart of the CG, ya silly mang.

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Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Disasturbator
#39571: Aug 11th 2016 at 6:27:58 AM

No while she's bubbled she's not

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thebandragoness Since: Feb, 2016
#39572: Aug 11th 2016 at 6:29:47 AM

Wow, this thread sure updates fast. What have you guys been talking about for so-? *skims latest page, flees screaming from thread*

edited 11th Aug '16 6:31:51 AM by thebandragoness

I've got Frozen, Spectacular Spider-Man, Crash, Spyro, and Paper Mario fanfics.
randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Ghost '11
#39573: Aug 11th 2016 at 6:32:19 AM

Jaspee's corruption so it doesn't really matter...she will never get to be un-American.

edited 11th Aug '16 6:33:01 AM by randomness4

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Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Disasturbator
#39574: Aug 11th 2016 at 6:36:22 AM

un-American?

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randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Ghost '11
#39575: Aug 11th 2016 at 6:37:07 AM

I meant un-american, her fellow corruption buddies can stay bubbled if their powerful corporate greed cannot be settled.

edited 11th Aug '16 6:38:30 AM by randomness4

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