I'm thinking the implication is that Pink Diamond would never leave her colony to the rebels even after all her setbacks, where as the other Diamonds are willing to cut there losses and leave once Pinkie was out of the picture.
And the war lasted exactly 5500 years according to that one supplementary material book.
edited 10th Aug '16 6:06:26 PM by lycropath
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That should not be the case...
edited 10th Aug '16 6:11:00 PM by randomness4
Rules of the Internet 45. Rule 45 is a lie. Check out my art if you notice.Burnett did make a tweet where he laughed at the idea of anyone poofing a Diamond, though I don't expect it to still be up.
edited 10th Aug '16 6:11:39 PM by thatother1dude
I found a post by someone that I think is insightful:
edited 10th Aug '16 6:18:34 PM by LSBK
Hey, I don't want to start anything, but I'm curious about something. With all of the talk about Bismuth, do any of you know anyone who was uncomfortable with it because she was "black-coded"? Because I thought about that, but no one brought it up. And it honestly strikes me as reaching for Unfortunate Implications.
Thanks. I'll keep that in mind.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think Steven Universe usually spreads out its big revelations more than what they've been doing lately. Think about it. In "Bismuth", we meet one of Rose's original soldiers, and find out that Rose bubbled her, and that she was opposed to shattering Gems. In "Beta" we find out that Jasper was born on Earth. In "Earthlings" we're told why Jasper is so pissed at Rose, and not only do we get confirmation that Pink Diamond existed, but that Rose did something to her. Since Jasper doesn't directly say that Rose destroyed Pink Diamond you might be inclined to think that maybe something else happened, but in the very next episode we're directly told that Rose shattered her. I'm not complaining about getting more answers quicker, but it does feel like a shift in how the show normally does things. It is a bit jarring to get so much information about Rose in such a short amount of time, especially since everything we find out either shifts our perception of her, or at least shows that she was more complicated than the other Gems like to acknowledge.
Just from the leak clip, I thought her apron was kind of eye-brow raising—until I (correctly) guessed it was a blacksmith apron, and that I was stupid for thinking otherwise (gems don't need chefs—or archaeologists for that matter).
I understand the anger at how Bismuth was portrayed. Once she started talking about destroying the "upper crust", I knew exactly what was happening. Aside from the Unfortunate Implications in regards to large butch women, you could easily see Unfortunate Implications with a violently revolutionary black woman.
I understand why that make people uncomfortable and wouldn't fault them for it, but we also have Garnet (who isn't human, but who is way more "black-coded" than bismuth) and the Pizzas as black characters, so I don't think it's a super decisive statement.
edited 10th Aug '16 6:33:32 PM by Draghinazzo
Honestly, if you're trying to show people as well, real people, I don't think you should be afraid to have them as heroes, villains, or in between.
Not all LGBT, POC, or religious minorities are good people just because they happen to belong to a marginalized group, and though you should obviously be careful to not try and further negative stereotypes, never casting people like that in antagonistic or villainous roles doesn't help anything. Especially if your going to treat the role with care and complexity.
It's a delicate tight rope, but I still think this show's approach is better than most.
edited 10th Aug '16 6:36:47 PM by LSBK
I see where people are coming about Bismuth, but I think part of it comes from the fact that most of the Gems are voiced by women of color and coded as such.
Also the revelation in what happened to Pink makes the conflict with Rose and Bismuth more complex. Rose's actions in the rebellion were a lot more political and cold than previously thought, and her bubbling of Bismuth could also be read as her preventing Bismuth from splitting the rebellion in half (those who want to stay on Earth and those who want to liberate everyone).
edited 10th Aug '16 6:37:09 PM by SilentColossus
I mean,honestly, if they based on the character designs on the voice actor and role in the story, then I think it's better that Bismuth is the way she is than going "Let's make her a little less black/big to avoid offending people".
I think that statement fits well here.
edited 10th Aug '16 6:42:47 PM by LSBK

You know... now that I think about it, it's hard for me to imagine a situation where shattering Pink Diamond was truly the only option. I'm not sure what she would accomplish by shattering her that she couldn't accomplish by poofing her, bubbling her and keeping her at the temple indefinitely. As far as I can tell, there's no limit to how long you can keep a gem bubbled.
Then again, she would run the risk that someone on her team would accidentally free her...
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