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BlueBlaze64 The Watcher on the Tower from Empire City Since: Sep, 2012 Relationship Status: I'm just a poor boy, nobody loves me
The Watcher on the Tower
#38901: Aug 8th 2016 at 9:44:10 PM

[up][up][up][up]Thanks! grin

edited 8th Aug '16 9:44:19 PM by BlueBlaze64

"The cruelest thing you can do to an artist is tell them their work is flawless when it isn't." -Ben "Yahtzee" Croshaw
thatother1dude from Land of the Ill, Annoyin' Since: Jan, 2001
#38902: Aug 8th 2016 at 9:48:19 PM

That is not this trope, because that's specifically about children being a camp/school/similar things.

Deus Exit Machina is probably the trope you're thinking of.

LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#38903: Aug 8th 2016 at 9:50:39 PM

Honestly, Jasper coming back soon would make the moment much less poignant for me. And also doesn't really mesh well with how they treat other situations like that, to me.

BlueBlaze64 The Watcher on the Tower from Empire City Since: Sep, 2012 Relationship Status: I'm just a poor boy, nobody loves me
The Watcher on the Tower
#38904: Aug 8th 2016 at 9:51:03 PM

[up][up] Y'know, on reading the description, that trope does seem more fitting for this show. Sorry, Xander.

Every time, I have to edit the number of arrows.

edited 8th Aug '16 9:51:44 PM by BlueBlaze64

"The cruelest thing you can do to an artist is tell them their work is flawless when it isn't." -Ben "Yahtzee" Croshaw
thatother1dude from Land of the Ill, Annoyin' Since: Jan, 2001
#38905: Aug 8th 2016 at 9:54:04 PM

When was Brooks said to have been doing more recording? If it was recently, then it'll be a damn long time until we hear what she recorded.

The first season is just twice as long, because reasons thatotherdude can explain better than me.
They decided season should be 26 episode when the show was greenlit, then 52 shortly after the show started, then 26 again last March.

What are their reasons? I've never even pretended to know that, though I vaguely remember Dapper Mammoth making an educated guess back when he still posted here.

Every time, I have to edit the number of arrows.
That is why I usually use quotes.

xanderiskander Since: Mar, 2012
#38906: Aug 8th 2016 at 9:54:53 PM

That is not this trope, because that's specifically about children being a camp/school/similar things.
It says it's not just about that in the description though.

But If it's definition is really that narrow, then that trope is being hilariously misused judging by the examples.

smokeycut Since: Mar, 2013
#38907: Aug 8th 2016 at 9:56:55 PM

It was about two or three months back, iirc. Pearl's VA took a selfie of the cast in the recording booth. I know it won't likely be right away, but that, plus comments from Kimberly Brooks on Twitter, make it very likely that we'll see a fair amount of Jasper in season 4.

thatother1dude from Land of the Ill, Annoyin' Since: Jan, 2001
#38908: Aug 8th 2016 at 10:07:04 PM

Speaking of "what trope is this", I'm trying to figure out the best trope fit for how Steven described his life in this episode:

Steven: Stop trying to be like Jasper. You're nothing like Jasper! You're like me! Because we're both not like anybody. And yeah... it sucks.
For now it's I Just Want to Be Normal, but that's not entirely right because he's not wishing he was normal, just pointing out a downside to being unique.

It says it's not just about that in the description though.
The description is fairly broad as to what the characters are doing, but is very clear as to which characters it applies to, and is very clearly about the absence of children specifically.

But If it's definition is really that narrow, then that trope is being hilariously misused judging by the examples.
Nothing new, especially with how many people ignore examples to just look at the trope name and assume because they're in the clear because one other is (mis)using the trope the same way. God that article doesn't even have consistent sorting! Some are in folders others just have AC titles.

brb, getting my hatchet

Cailleach Studious Girl from Purgatory Since: Sep, 2015 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
Studious Girl
#38909: Aug 8th 2016 at 10:07:25 PM

There is a chance that Jasper could be appearing in flashbacks. Back in the War Times.

Ukokira Since: May, 2012
#38910: Aug 9th 2016 at 1:00:44 AM

Where was it said that Jasper's VA getting more recordings?

Also I don't think a flashback would work considering none of the characters except for Peridot knew who Jasper was before Jailbreak. And I doubt Peridot knew Jasper very long as is.

SpookyMask Since: Jan, 2011
#38911: Aug 9th 2016 at 1:05:26 AM

Ya know, this does show that corrupted gems could technically fuse .-.

randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Ghost '11
#38912: Aug 9th 2016 at 1:08:51 AM

Nobody really denied that possibility...they still don't have the mind to do it, so this changes nothing.

Jaspee never using the phrase "My Diamond" doesn't really work as foreshadowing...she was never in direct conversation with YD. That's an addressing phrase.

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PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out.
#38913: Aug 9th 2016 at 1:10:28 AM

I really liked Smokey Quartz' design. It felt like the perfect combination of just combining the features and clothing of Human fusion, and the much more intricate melding of personality traits as a representation of their relationship of Gem fusion.

smokeycut Since: Mar, 2013
#38914: Aug 9th 2016 at 1:12:07 AM

Pearl's VA posted selfies from inside the recording booth, and one of the people there is Kimberly Brooks, Jasper's VA. She wouldn't be there unless she's recording lines for episodes. The timing of the selfies indicates that this is during the recording for season 4.

Kimberly Brooks also responded to a tweet asking about season 4 and the end of season 3, and her response heavily implied that she had recorded dialogue for them both.

Ukokira Since: May, 2012
#38915: Aug 9th 2016 at 1:27:10 AM

I don't see Brooks tweet about that anywhere

PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out.
#38916: Aug 9th 2016 at 1:29:27 AM

Also, looks like my theory that Pink Diamond was in charge of the military seems to have evidence supporting it. My theory:

Pink Diamond was in charge of military.

Yellow Diamond was in charge of technology, and took over military after Pink Diamond became indisposed.

Blue Diamond is in charge of history and culture.

White Diamond serves to veto the other Diamonds and keep them in check.

randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Ghost '11
#38917: Aug 9th 2016 at 1:35:02 AM

Actually PD was in charge of dying.

She was SIB, supposedly.

edited 9th Aug '16 1:37:15 AM by randomness4

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smokeycut Since: Mar, 2013
#38918: Aug 9th 2016 at 1:38:39 AM

It's not as explicit as the selfie from a while back, but a few days ago someone asked Kimberly Brooks if Jasper was going to get redeemed in late season 3/during season 4. Her response was "I really hope so!"

Considering the fact that they're already quite a ways into recording season 4 (if they aren't done with it already), she knows what happens to Jasper during it, she just can't actually say it because it'd be spoiling the show. Whether or not Jasper gets redeemed though, we know she's appearing again.

KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#38919: Aug 9th 2016 at 1:56:46 AM

The most interesting thing this episode told us about Jasper her whole strength and failure issues didn't start with losing to Garnet and getting nommed by Lapis. She appears to have been dealing with seeing herself as a failure and not good enough (and projecting that onto other people) for millennia, which kind of makes me want to see her and Pearl have a heart to heart conversation.

I don't doubt that we'll see her in flashback episode, though I don't know who the character would be that could tell Steven the story besides Jasper herself. Maybe her and Rose were even friends and sisters in arms, until Rose switched sides - it would explain her obsession with exacting revenge on her.

Also, I totally want fanart of Jasper and Kevin 11.

randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Ghost '11
#38920: Aug 9th 2016 at 2:10:10 AM

Friends? That might be a little too much, Jaspee doesn't need friends...she only needs to be perfect and respectable.

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KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#38921: Aug 9th 2016 at 2:19:49 AM

Now she doesn't, sure. But in the beginning, before the war and the failure and the self loathing, when she was born with only the loyalty of the Quartz and the allegiance of her battalion to know, maybe she did have allies she was close to and even friends with.

I'd really like Jasper's backstory to be set up like the perfect tale of a heroic warrior destined from birth to defeat the biggest threat to everything: praised and adored as a Gem among Gems, bringing together a squad of handpicked allies/friends, dealing with the inevitable betrayal of the shifty party member, charging into final battle for to save all that (to her) is good and just... except of course, she's the bad guy, so in the end she loses and the traitor becomes the Big Good.

On an unrelated note, by having character who uses a yoyo as a weapon this series has officially gone from super-great to super-duper-great. Just a few more milestones until wombo-great.

edited 9th Aug '16 2:33:01 AM by KnownUnknown

randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Ghost '11
#38922: Aug 9th 2016 at 2:25:25 AM

Looking through a bit of yo-yo weapon history, unsurprisingly it is a lot commoner than I thought it wasn't. Mostly anime, go figure.

Unless she was somehow defective, I really don't see self-loathing being a thing...and failiure of what?

edited 9th Aug '16 2:31:28 AM by randomness4

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Sunchet Since: Oct, 2010
#38923: Aug 9th 2016 at 2:27:32 AM

Okay, guys, I know a lot has happened and there is plenty to speculate and stuff. But. Can we take a moment and appreciate Peridot? She's just so happy to be on Earth, and she's so sweet to everyone. She's honestly nicest Gem after Steven. Watching her get along him Lazuli and make art, and show it to her friends with such excitement... it just melts my heart. Our little dorito went such a long way.

randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Ghost '11
#38924: Aug 9th 2016 at 2:33:05 AM

She finally poofed something, that's something of worth. Extremely lucky that Jaspee loses all that durability after becoming a corruption gem.

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smokeycut Since: Mar, 2013
#38925: Aug 9th 2016 at 2:56:05 AM

So I guess Lapis canonically has depression.

It's nice to see that represented realistically. You can have good days, bad days, bad days where you're still able to laugh or joke, etc.


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