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Draghinazzo (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: I get a feeling so complicated...
#38701: Aug 8th 2016 at 5:02:31 PM

...wow, it's true. I don't think I would have ever caught that on my own.

Austin Since: Jan, 2001
#38702: Aug 8th 2016 at 5:02:41 PM

Come to think of it, I just had a theory: what if Yellow Diamond is so hell bent on the Cluster destroying Earth because she wants vengeance for Pink Diamond too?

The thought crossed my mind, because I figured if Rose wasn't Pink Diamond, then she probably killed her.

Lightysnake Since: May, 2010
#38703: Aug 8th 2016 at 5:03:08 PM

And...I'm predicting our Pearl was Pink Diamond's Pearl

LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#38704: Aug 8th 2016 at 5:04:22 PM

I would think that Jasper wouldn't come back in any capacity until after Steven learns how to undue corruption, which I figure will be at the end of the series.

I don't know about any leaks, though, and I'd rather not be spoiled.

smokeycut Since: Mar, 2013
#38705: Aug 8th 2016 at 5:05:08 PM

I haven't seen any Jasper leaks beyond this episode, so I don't think there are any.

WillKeaton from Alberta, Canada Since: Jun, 2010
#38706: Aug 8th 2016 at 5:05:09 PM

I had been a strong supporter of the "Rose is Pink Diamond Theory" but now, now I don't know what to think. And Steven Fusing with Amethyst's, just, I mean, can you think of all the possibilities this leaves open? Just, so many possible fusions for characters... I had thought that maybe Steven was going to only be able to fuse with humans, and that would be his "thing" but now he can fuse with Gems AND humans.

Oh, and I totally called Jasper becoming corrupted after fusing with a corrupted Gem.

edited 8th Aug '16 5:05:51 PM by WillKeaton

randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Ghost '11
#38707: Aug 8th 2016 at 5:05:31 PM

There are none leaks...

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lycropath Since: Mar, 2010 Relationship Status: I like big bots and I can not lie
LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#38709: Aug 8th 2016 at 5:06:36 PM

I wonder if Connie will feel some jealousy of Steven being able to fuse with the Gems now...

thatother1dude from Land of the Ill, Annoyin' Since: Jan, 2001
#38710: Aug 8th 2016 at 5:07:20 PM

Have there been any other leaks that indicate that one way or the other like they did with Smokey?
I'll tell you the relevant leaks because they don't seem to be spoilers anymore:
  1. Jasper being corrupted was given away by a marathon called "Jasper's Corruption"
  2. Smokey Quartz's existence was given away by another marathon called "Smokey Quartz" (which in hindsight is probably going to be Amethyst and Steven episodes) plus her being listed in the crunch version of the credits just like Malachite, Jasper, Ruby, and Sapphire were back before "Jail Break".

edited 8th Aug '16 5:08:42 PM by thatother1dude

AlleyOop Since: Oct, 2010
#38711: Aug 8th 2016 at 5:07:55 PM

Man I felt really bad for Jasper this episode. Kimberly Brooks did a great job with the voices.

And damn Smokey Quartz looks neat as all heck. Anyone know if SQ's voice actor is still Dietz or someone else? Sounded like her but I'm not sure. Also does SQ go by "she" or "they"?

Lightysnake Since: May, 2010
#38712: Aug 8th 2016 at 5:08:26 PM

I'm also wondering how nasty White Diamond is gonna be now...

AdricDePsycho Rock on, Gold Dust Woman from Never Going Back Again Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
Rock on, Gold Dust Woman
#38713: Aug 8th 2016 at 5:09:49 PM

Smokey Quartz was voiced by someone from Orange is the New Black, I believe.

Have you any dreams you'd like to sell?
thatother1dude from Land of the Ill, Annoyin' Since: Jan, 2001
#38714: Aug 8th 2016 at 5:09:56 PM

Anyone know if SQ's voice actor is still Dietz or someone else?
As I said, we knew her voice actor was Natasha Lyonne before we knew anything else about her.

edited 8th Aug '16 5:10:47 PM by thatother1dude

thatother1dude from Land of the Ill, Annoyin' Since: Jan, 2001
#38716: Aug 8th 2016 at 5:15:53 PM

So, did Amethyst and Rose never fuse?
I had to check again, but the dialogue specifies that they did fuse before, and their fusion had the same name.

Jasper: Who are you supposed to be?
Smokey Quartz: Oh yeah. Who am I now? I feel like Amethyst knows this.

edited 8th Aug '16 5:16:18 PM by thatother1dude

randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Ghost '11
#38717: Aug 8th 2016 at 5:16:15 PM

Garnet can ask questions, she just avoids doing so.

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DeathsApprentice The Ultimate Lifeform from The Ark Since: Aug, 2011 Relationship Status: Is that a kind of food?
The Ultimate Lifeform
#38718: Aug 8th 2016 at 5:17:50 PM

Interesting thoughts on kindergartens and Jasper.

When we're done, there won't be anything left.
BlueBlaze64 The Watcher on the Tower from Empire City Since: Sep, 2012 Relationship Status: I'm just a poor boy, nobody loves me
The Watcher on the Tower
#38719: Aug 8th 2016 at 5:25:02 PM

So, I guess the showrunners realized that having two Gems do a Fusion Dance to fuse just started becoming impractical both in a practical and storytelling sense?

"The cruelest thing you can do to an artist is tell them their work is flawless when it isn't." -Ben "Yahtzee" Croshaw
LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#38720: Aug 8th 2016 at 5:26:08 PM

I think the closer you are the less you have to do to fuse. I mean, in a meta sense it's probably what you said, but in-story, I think it's the closeness thing.

edited 8th Aug '16 5:27:08 PM by LSBK

AlleyOop Since: Oct, 2010
#38721: Aug 8th 2016 at 5:27:56 PM

We'll probably still get them in calmer scenes, but Steven and Amethyst were also having a particularly intense emotional bonding moment at the time.

DaftPunch hiya, the name's scout. from lesbian Since: Dec, 2013 Relationship Status: Hugging my pillow
hiya, the name's scout.
#38722: Aug 8th 2016 at 5:28:07 PM

I got 31 copics today and a lot of them are gem names

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thatother1dude from Land of the Ill, Annoyin' Since: Jan, 2001
#38723: Aug 8th 2016 at 5:28:11 PM

I'm going to point out that "what you did to my Diamond!" could very well mean "get her to change her mind about Earth, which indirectly resulted in her being shattered/corrupted/etc".

I don't think her symbol would have been vandalized if she just died.

JBC31187 Since: Jan, 2015
#38724: Aug 8th 2016 at 5:31:27 PM

Okay, that was something. I thought Jasper had broken all ties to Homeworld and the Diamonds, since she was so fusion-happy, but that she was so broken up over Pink Diamond- that I didn't expect.

A couple of theories:

wild mass guessMost of the Quartzes in the war were more like Amethyst than Jasperwild mass guess ... and to compensate, they fused together like the Rubies to make Jasper-sized Quartzes- or even bigger. That's why Jasper just pegged fusion as a cheap trick- all she was familiar with was her weaker fellow Quartzes trying to emulate her.

wild mass guessRose Quartz developed the Corruption technique.wild mass guess She was looking for a non-lethal way to incapacitate Gems on a large scale, but only the Diamonds had the power and technology to do it worldwide.

I'm going to point out that "what you did to my Diamond!" could very well mean "get her to change her mind about Earth, which indirectly resulted in her being shattered/corrupted/etc". I don't think her symbol would have been vandalized if she just died.

And what the hell, Lion is Pink Diamond, after Rose tried corruption on her. Originally, Pink Diamond was monstrous and violent, like every other corrupted Gem, and the Diamonds wrote their sister off as a lost cause. But, Rose was able to stabilize her condition and Lion was formed. The reason it doesn't work on other corrupted Gems is because the method the Diamonds use is itself corrupted- Rose cared about preserving life and hopefully curing the condition later, while the Diamonds wanted a quick and dirty revenge.

edited 8th Aug '16 5:31:48 PM by JBC31187

thatother1dude from Land of the Ill, Annoyin' Since: Jan, 2001
#38725: Aug 8th 2016 at 5:38:25 PM

I don't think her symbol would have been vandalized if she just died.
Just to cover my bases, I'll point one plausible reason: the Diamond Authority are so obsessed with being seen as perfect that they erased Pink Diamond from history because her death shows they aren't invincible.

Even that doesn't seem terribly likely.


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