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RhymeBeat True colors from Eastern Standard Since: Aug, 2009 Relationship Status: In Lesbians with you
randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Ghost '11
#38452: Aug 6th 2016 at 6:54:41 PM

Progressively better.

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thatother1dude from Land of the Ill, Annoyin' Since: Jan, 2001
#38453: Aug 6th 2016 at 7:16:42 PM

Because the wiki says it's just embedded in the pillow like Lapis's mirror. I know wikis aren't always accurate, but Steven Universe is usually pretty good.
The original source was a tweet by Burnett saying it wasn't a gem-powered device, it was a corrupt gem. But that tweet was deleted.

JBC31187 Since: Jan, 2015
#38454: Aug 6th 2016 at 7:19:56 PM

Regarding whether or not the other Crystal Gems could bubble at the time of the Rebellion, the shattered Crystal Gems in the Cluster were able to bubble each other pretty quickly, even though they were fragments of themselves. So either they already knew how to bubble, or bubbling is really easy to learn.

unknowing from somewhere.. Since: Mar, 2014
#38455: Aug 6th 2016 at 8:06:27 PM

Ok, about bismuth and the shattering point....it won matter, not because a moral quandery but because whatever we liked or not, homeworld almost win.

I mean yeah, they where retreating and stuff but Homeworld deploy a weapon that reduce the rebelion into a footnote in history, Homeworld learn of their rival and adapt waaay better at them, hell without Peridot the clust would open and earth would be history.

In the end, Homeworld malice overcome rebelion, showing how can far they go.

"My Name is Bolt, Bolt Crank and I dont care if you believe or not"
randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Ghost '11
#38456: Aug 6th 2016 at 8:10:56 PM

They could've used those ships to leave the planet...

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CodeXYZ Ice Ice Baby from Under the Stars Since: Mar, 2015 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
Ice Ice Baby
#38457: Aug 6th 2016 at 9:04:55 PM

Bismuth, topped the cable ratings Thursday night.

"Procrastinate now, don’t put it off." Ellen De Generes
wehrmacht belongs to the hurricane from the garden of everything Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
belongs to the hurricane
#38458: Aug 6th 2016 at 9:35:57 PM

Well-deserved. It was an excellent episode.

ClownToy Since: Aug, 2015
#38459: Aug 6th 2016 at 9:43:40 PM

Yeah, if a bit sad one episode. (Well, Steven Universe have a lot of sad episodes)

I would like that Bismuth could get back in the future. She's not completely irredimable, even thought what she was going to do was a bit questionable.

KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#38460: Aug 6th 2016 at 9:52:29 PM

One of the best things about Bismuth as a character is that her character could go either way. Unlike Jasper who - let's face it - is going to get worse before she gets better even if she gets a redemption arc, Bismuth is goodhearted enough that a future appearance could have her try to redeem herself, but flawed enough that a future appearance could have her unable to, and both would work perfectly with her character as we've seen it.

Another point in favor of her returning is how she has obvious/easy plot potential with practically every single major character (except maybe Greg), which is rare for anyone not named Steven.

edited 6th Aug '16 9:53:13 PM by KnownUnknown

JBC31187 Since: Jan, 2015
#38461: Aug 6th 2016 at 9:56:06 PM

She'll probably be back. It's the same problem as fusions, though. Uzo Aduba killed it as Bismuth, but she's got Orange Is The New Black. Nicki Minaj isn't available for Sugilite. Estelle has her music career. Oh hell, Joel's got the new MST to take care of, so we may not see Mayor Dewey for a while.

LeGarcon Blowout soon fellow Stalker from Skadovsk Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: Gay for Big Boss
Blowout soon fellow Stalker
#38462: Aug 6th 2016 at 9:57:21 PM

Estelle always seems to make time for Steven Universe though. I'm not too worried about her.

Oh really when?
xanderiskander Since: Mar, 2012
#38463: Aug 6th 2016 at 10:01:44 PM

You know, I just thought of something: the corruption wave didn't affect those in gem form, otherwise Lapis would have been corrupted. Then shouldn't the Crystal Gems have had some bubbled PO Ws that weren't corrupted?

If the Crystal Gems sent them back to Homeworld, that would've given away that they survived. If they just kept them in the temple this whole time that's... really weird.

The corruption wave could have happened long enough after the final battle, that the rebellion soldiers could have already reformed.

I mean, if I were Yellow Diamond, I'd think waiting for that is a smart idea, so it would corrupt as many of them as possible.

thatother1dude from Land of the Ill, Annoyin' Since: Jan, 2001
#38464: Aug 6th 2016 at 10:22:26 PM

The corruption wave could have happened long enough after the final battle, that the rebellion soldiers could have already reformed.
I was asking what happened to all the Homeworld gems that the Crystal Gems were holding captive in bubbles when the corruption happened.

edited 6th Aug '16 10:26:00 PM by thatother1dude

xanderiskander Since: Mar, 2012
#38465: Aug 6th 2016 at 10:30:56 PM

Oh. I don't really think that's weird? What else can they do with them? Releasing them would be dangerous.

Though to be honest I don't think they would have bubbled homeworld gems. I think they would have just left them there. Or other homeworld gems would have picked them up first.

edited 6th Aug '16 10:49:01 PM by xanderiskander

Mr.Badguy Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
#38466: Aug 6th 2016 at 11:03:55 PM

[up]x6 The saddest thing to me is that Bismuth is completely accepting of Amethyst, despite clearly seeing that she's "defective." She takes one look at her and just happily chirps about having more Amethysts in the ranks.

randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Ghost '11
#38467: Aug 6th 2016 at 11:09:16 PM

There's no such thing as defective, it's just a word used to make people feel bad.

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ClownToy Since: Aug, 2015
#38468: Aug 6th 2016 at 11:13:19 PM

I still think Bismuth must suffer a Break the Haughty before getting a redemption, abeit probably not a very strong one.

randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Ghost '11
#38469: Aug 6th 2016 at 11:17:06 PM

Remember, they are the underdogs...that includes all of the Crystal Gems.

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#38470: Aug 6th 2016 at 11:19:12 PM

When do you think Bismuth's return will be?

thatother1dude from Land of the Ill, Annoyin' Since: Jan, 2001
#38471: Aug 6th 2016 at 11:20:38 PM

Another point in favor of her returning is how she has obvious/easy plot potential with practically every single major character (except maybe Greg), which is rare for anyone not named Steven.
Maybe meeting Peridot will get Bismuth to realize that it's not a great idea to indiscriminately plow through Homeworld's ranks even if you're going Straight for the Commander.

I don't think they would have bubbled homeworld gems. I think they would have just left them there.
What? The Crystal Gems have no reason not to (they've consistently expressed no difficulty with bubbling prisoners), and if they weren't shattering their opponents or taking prisoners, their rebellion would have been a complete joke.

Or other homeworld gems would have picked them up first.
Each side's efforts to capture (or in Homeworld's case, shatter) the other's gemstones and retrieve their own was probably a big part of combat.

What else can they do with them? Releasing them would be dangerous.
Keeping them prisoners forever defies the point of sparing them. The intent was mostly likely to send them back to Homeworld once the war ended. Likewise, they planned to keep Peridot bubbled for the foreseeable future, but that was because the war was starting back up.

I think I've worked out a plausible scenario, but it'll take a while to get together and it's getting late, so maybe I'll post it tomorrow.

I still think Bismuth must suffer a Break the Haughty before getting a redemption, abeit probably not a very strong one.
How is she "haughty"? And being poofed twice and finding out most of her friends had died was "breaking" enough—she was already begging Steven to shatter her when she thought he'd seal her away without anyone knowing the truth.

ClownToy Since: Aug, 2015
#38472: Aug 6th 2016 at 11:22:37 PM

Well, you might be right. Is just I tend to judge characters throught actions and at times I forget their psychology.

LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#38473: Aug 6th 2016 at 11:23:09 PM

There's no such thing as defective, it's just a word used to make people feel bad.

It kind of carries more meaning when you were actually made for one explicit purpose and can't fulfill it. Speaking of which, I wonder if they're ever going to answer why Amethyst emerged so much later than the others.

randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Ghost '11
#38474: Aug 6th 2016 at 11:24:28 PM

[up][up]That "low opinion" of the Diamonds and upper-class Gems isn't in the "beneath me" sense.

[up]She stayed in the ground too long...Perry winks explained it. Probably had trouble forming because of the rock density of that specific area.

edited 6th Aug '16 11:29:38 PM by randomness4

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darkabomination Since: Mar, 2012
#38475: Aug 7th 2016 at 1:21:54 AM

I really liked that instead of descending into a depressive spiral, Amethyst joined Pearl's game implicitly to try and feel better. From experience, trying to work through it without just giving in is an accomplishment in of itself.


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