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randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Ghost '11
#38401: Aug 6th 2016 at 4:25:33 PM

Soon when the Diamonds become a looming threat, we should expect to see them in swag...because they are now apart of the norm being re-occuring villains.

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LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#38402: Aug 6th 2016 at 4:26:36 PM

Just going to say, creators can love villains as villains, and good villains can, (and more often should) have more depth to them than just "evil". That the Crewniverse understands this doesn't really say much except that they're good writers. It could still go either way.

edited 6th Aug '16 4:26:56 PM by LSBK

Mr.Badguy Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
#38403: Aug 6th 2016 at 4:32:29 PM

There is a theme this season about there being people Steven cannot reach.

Marty hurt his father, but Steven played along to support Sour Cream and things only went south when Marty just tried to use his son for his own ends.

Steven was obsessing over his hatred for Kevin, but then Stevonnie relents when Kevin lies about his brother; they wanted to believe that Kevin had good in him, and were hurt to be lied to and ultimately gave up.

Bismuth is a good person/lesbian space rock. She's, by far, the greatest tragedy of Steven not being able to reach somebody, but at the end of the day Steven couldn't help her, because Bismuth isn't ready to be helped. She's still playing the same script she did 5000 years ago, where Homeworld is invading Earth so it's time to murder them so hard they spend the rest of existence in disembodied agony.

Jasper can go either way. She hasn't sped past the Moral Event Horizon quite yet, but she's not exactly slowing down either.

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#38404: Aug 6th 2016 at 4:36:43 PM

Y'all do realize we're letting the debate over Jasper overtake the thread, right?

Have you any dreams you'd like to sell?
lycropath Since: Mar, 2010 Relationship Status: I like big bots and I can not lie
#38405: Aug 6th 2016 at 4:38:51 PM

If other people would like to discuss it you really can't stop them from doing so, especially when its perfectly civil.

randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Ghost '11
#38406: Aug 6th 2016 at 4:39:55 PM

Nah, it's been done to almost death now.

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darkabomination Since: Mar, 2012
#38407: Aug 6th 2016 at 4:40:01 PM

I'd say she's crossed it twice over, but that's just, like my opinion.

For Steven to be willing to go through with bubbling Bismuth is still a massive growth in his character. He's willing to put her back where Rose left her, but this time he's making amends. For as sad as that scene is, it's sweet that when it's all said and done, she's pleased to know her friends are in good hands.

AdricDePsycho Rock on, Gold Dust Woman from Never Going Back Again Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
Rock on, Gold Dust Woman
#38408: Aug 6th 2016 at 4:40:09 PM

True.

If this gets uncivil, though, then let's agree to drop it.

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Mr.Badguy Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
#38409: Aug 6th 2016 at 4:41:50 PM

This is obviously something people here want to pursue discussing, and it's a Steven Universe discussion thread.

Jasper's practically the focus of this season. Why would we not want to talk about her redemption?

randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Ghost '11
#38410: Aug 6th 2016 at 4:42:58 PM

Practically...? Not quite yet she isn't, but probably. She's been in 4 episodes.

edited 6th Aug '16 4:43:24 PM by randomness4

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Mr.Badguy Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
#38411: Aug 6th 2016 at 4:44:04 PM

I mean the main conflict right now is that Jasper is on the loose and capturing corrupted Gems, and now Amethyst has a beef with her that she's spending a lot of time focusing on.

That's focus, yo.

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#38412: Aug 6th 2016 at 4:45:31 PM

As long as it doesn't overtake the thread, I don't mind.

Personally I was just following what LSBK was saying about it overtaking the thread. As long as it stays civil, it's cool

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randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Ghost '11
#38413: Aug 6th 2016 at 4:45:31 PM

The second half's focus, but Jaspee's too perfect to focus on...remember all those times she didn't get poofed.

It's because she's perfect.

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ClownToy Since: Aug, 2015
#38414: Aug 6th 2016 at 4:45:44 PM

To be fair, I don't know if Jasper will gonna redemn soon.

Mocking Amethyst, wanting to kill the crystal gems, not to mention obsessed with defeating Rose.
Keep also in mind that if Jasper gets corrupted, it will be hard (but not impossible) to reason with she.

randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Ghost '11
#38415: Aug 6th 2016 at 4:47:54 PM

Those first and third things aren't exactly bad out of context.

They just make her sound like a bully with an inferiority complex.

edited 6th Aug '16 4:49:07 PM by randomness4

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thatother1dude from Land of the Ill, Annoyin' Since: Jan, 2001
#38416: Aug 6th 2016 at 4:51:49 PM

You know, I just thought of something: the corruption wave didn't affect those in gem form, otherwise Lapis would have been corrupted. Then shouldn't the Crystal Gems have had some bubbled POWs that weren't corrupted?

If the Crystal Gems sent them back to Homeworld, that would've given away that they survived. If they just kept them in the temple this whole time that's... really weird.

Mr.Badguy Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
#38417: Aug 6th 2016 at 4:53:02 PM

Who knows when bubbling actually started? If there was a way to safely contain Homeworld soldiers then Bismuth probably wouldn't have needed the Breaking Point.

randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Ghost '11
#38418: Aug 6th 2016 at 4:59:53 PM

No, with those bubbled HW Gems she would've had a proper testing target.

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ClownToy Since: Aug, 2015
#38419: Aug 6th 2016 at 5:03:11 PM

[up][up][up][up]While she might be oto proud due her perfection or something else, she was quite obsessed with fusion.
In the past she said that fusion was a cheap tactic to be strong.
And when a fusion defeated her, she decided to fuse to become stronger.
After spending a long time fused with Lapis, she grown drunk with power, but then she's defeated and deprived from that power.
Then the boat episode, nuff said.
And then Crack the whip, "Why everything is about fusion?"
I think she got obsessed because she's obsessed with battle power.
She belives she's superior to most gems, but when she's getting defeated, she ignores her previous beliefs as long as she can win.
"I am the ultimate quartz, so it would be unlikely that I could get defeated. They are fusing, so my defeat doesn't count".
Sounds like Jasper might be middly narcissistic.

edited 6th Aug '16 5:04:52 PM by ClownToy

thatother1dude from Land of the Ill, Annoyin' Since: Jan, 2001
#38420: Aug 6th 2016 at 5:03:20 PM

Who knows when bubbling actually started? If there was a way to safely contain Homeworld soldiers then Bismuth probably wouldn't have needed the Breaking Point.

If they didn't have bubbling by that point, how did Rose bubble Bismuth?

edited 6th Aug '16 5:04:39 PM by thatother1dude

randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Ghost '11
#38421: Aug 6th 2016 at 5:05:33 PM

She was probably the only one who could do it at the time.

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ClownToy Since: Aug, 2015
#38422: Aug 6th 2016 at 5:06:59 PM

She's a quartz with barrier powers.

I think she could do that since forever.

edited 6th Aug '16 5:13:15 PM by ClownToy

darkabomination Since: Mar, 2012
#38423: Aug 6th 2016 at 5:12:56 PM

Could be a technique she taught the Gems.

Stevonnie pissed her the hell off.

"Fusion? Fusion, fusion! IT'S ALWAYS FUSION!"

I broke down and watched "Beta" out of fear of spoilers. I'll just say this topic will be interesting come Monday.

lycropath Since: Mar, 2010 Relationship Status: I like big bots and I can not lie
#38424: Aug 6th 2016 at 5:14:27 PM

Rose has so many more powers then everyone else including other Quartz's, I have to wonder are they inherit to all Rose Quartz type gems or was she just special in some way?

ClownToy Since: Aug, 2015
#38425: Aug 6th 2016 at 5:16:10 PM

It would be awesome if the second thery can be true.

Think about the possibilities.


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