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AlleyOop Since: Oct, 2010
#38351: Aug 6th 2016 at 12:35:29 PM

I think one of the writers put out a message after the first episode of the shard arc came out referring to the Cursed Scroll episodes. "You know that episode with the thing? ...Yeah. You guys are astute." Something to that extent, I don't remember exactly what.

JBC31187 Since: Jan, 2015
#38352: Aug 6th 2016 at 1:04:53 PM

I don't think the Crystal Gems never shattered any Homeworld Gems. The impression I got was that they never did so on purpose, as a method of combat. On top of the likely accidents over the course of a war that long, the Diamond Authority went from four to three somehow, and "Rose was Pink Diamond" seems pretty solidly debunked now.

Garnet even mentions how thousands of Gems were shattered on the strawberry plains. I can't imagine that Homeworld would retreat if those thousands of casualties were all on the other side.

I think the best way to view the Breaking Point isn't as a nuke (the Diamonds already have the magical space nukes) but more like... chlorine gas grenades, I guess? On paper they may look effective, but they're an especially ugly way to kill people (even when you're already blowing holes in each other) and there's nothing stopping the enemy from making their own, or worse.

All gems are different in what it takes to cut or break one. Diamonds are really hard to cut but are very easy to break. And they are also flammable.
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WillKeaton from Alberta, Canada Since: Jun, 2010
#38353: Aug 6th 2016 at 1:21:01 PM

I just noticed that the bow tie Peridot wears in the preview is same one the alien plushie was wearing.

AlleyOop Since: Oct, 2010
#38354: Aug 6th 2016 at 1:25:26 PM

Yeah, Gems have and were probably going to die anyway but the Breaking Point is more like chemical weapons. They wouldn't make the Crystal Gems significantly more effective but they would represent a ramping-up in savagery of battle.

thatother1dude from Land of the Ill, Annoyin' Since: Jan, 2001
#38355: Aug 6th 2016 at 1:54:08 PM

I think one of the writers put out a message after the first episode of the shard arc came out referring to the Cursed Scroll episodes.
That was Joe Johnston, but (like some of Burnett's tweets) the original post was deleted. Here's a repost.

Question: Hi! Sorry, this has been bugging me for a while ever since the gem monsters were confirmed to be corrupt gems. What exactly is the Evil Spirit? It didn't drop a gem at all, and where did the scroll come from?

Answer: You're talking about the breakfast/smoke monster from "Together Breakfast." Well, to make pigments you use certain minerals to achieve different colors. Those different pigments get use in inks and paints... see where I'm going with this...

randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
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#38356: Aug 6th 2016 at 2:10:27 PM

Humans turn those crushed gems into chalk?

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thatother1dude from Land of the Ill, Annoyin' Since: Jan, 2001
#38357: Aug 6th 2016 at 2:16:04 PM

Not chalk, pigment for ink.

edited 6th Aug '16 2:16:44 PM by thatother1dude

Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
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#38358: Aug 6th 2016 at 2:20:37 PM

Steven is going to regret destroying Breaking Point,I bet

I mean,supposing they come across a Gem they can't simply poof and then bubble

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MorningStar1337 The Encounter that ended the Dogma from 🤔 Since: Nov, 2012
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#38359: Aug 6th 2016 at 2:21:54 PM

[up][up] In other words the Scroll itself was the Gem Shard, effectibly

edited 6th Aug '16 2:31:46 PM by MorningStar1337

randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
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#38360: Aug 6th 2016 at 2:22:48 PM

[up][up]They can simply pull the Gem out of the body...after they stun it, is simple.

edited 6th Aug '16 2:23:08 PM by randomness4

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Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
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#38361: Aug 6th 2016 at 2:29:53 PM

What if that triggers a self destruction mechanism?

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thatother1dude from Land of the Ill, Annoyin' Since: Jan, 2001
#38362: Aug 6th 2016 at 2:31:48 PM

This hypothetical is sounding increasingly unlikely.

darkabomination Since: Mar, 2012
#38363: Aug 6th 2016 at 2:32:30 PM

Time to break out Pearl's Frybo quote.

Pearl: These Shards have a powerful partial consciousness that has been harnessed by Gems throughout history in order to create semi-sentient drone soldiers with the capacity to follow basic orders. Gems once created an army of these drones, but found their obedience waned as the shards overdeveloped inside their uniforms and turned on their commanders. You see, any shard imprinted by any sort of container could become a monster. That’s why it’s very, very important it’s kept away from any kind of garment...

So yeah, any shard isn't just dead, they still have a spark left. Combining them of course increases awareness, but any shard could have some consciousness. Which is horrible, because it's worse than death. There's no oblivion, just A Fate Worse Than Death. At least with bubbling it's effectively Cessation of Existence while they're in stasis.

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#38364: Aug 6th 2016 at 2:36:26 PM

[up]True, it's pretty effed up.

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randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
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#38365: Aug 6th 2016 at 2:38:31 PM

[up][up]If they don't just end up turning into sentient disembodied limbs, they have the ability to place their consciousness into inanimate things and become incredibly responsive to command inputs.

edited 6th Aug '16 2:39:33 PM by randomness4

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Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
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#38366: Aug 6th 2016 at 3:18:08 PM

> This hypothetical is sounding increasingly unlikely.

OK,right.

Still.it would be handy to have a weapon that can shatter gems...you never know when you might need it.

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smokeycut Since: Mar, 2013
#38367: Aug 6th 2016 at 3:26:47 PM

This is a kid's show. They're not going to have the lesson "sorry Steven, but sometimes execution is the right way to go".

randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
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#38368: Aug 6th 2016 at 3:32:30 PM

They could do that...this being a "kid's show" isn't stopping them.

Being a "kid's show" only stops excessive amounts of killing...except if the character doesn't matter.

edited 6th Aug '16 3:33:44 PM by randomness4

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Mr.Badguy Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
#38369: Aug 6th 2016 at 3:33:31 PM

Yeah, shattering isn't just killing a Gem, it's destroying their consciousness and leaving them tiny fragments of themselves who still have enough awareness to think.

And Bismuth was going to do that to as many Homeworld Gems as she could.

On that note, it is a missed opportunity that we didn't get to see her interact with Peridot and Lapis. I'm hoping it's something that'll happen when (and it better be when dammit) she comes back.

LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#38370: Aug 6th 2016 at 3:33:42 PM

I have a hard time believing most people who write for this show would believe that, anyway.

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#38371: Aug 6th 2016 at 3:46:14 PM

Shattering Jasper would mean the end of their problems...

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LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#38373: Aug 6th 2016 at 3:47:57 PM

No more than just poofing and bubbling her would. I think it's pretty clear the Crystal Gems as they exist now aren't interested in shattering anyone.

And that's the real crux of the issues, there is really no situation where shattering an opponent is an option but just poofing them and sealing them away isn't. At least not for individual Gems.

edited 6th Aug '16 3:49:17 PM by LSBK

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#38374: Aug 6th 2016 at 3:48:30 PM

You're seriously justifying murder because it would be the easiest solution?

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randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
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#38375: Aug 6th 2016 at 3:50:00 PM

Yes.

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