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A_dude Nominal guy Since: Aug, 2015 Relationship Status: Waiting for you *wink*
Nominal guy
#38101: Aug 4th 2016 at 10:42:37 PM

@Zuke having to defend her co-workers: That's a tough bridge to navigate without getting yourself hurt. I hope some people come to their senses and realize the story hasn't been fully told. If they still have a legitimate beef to air, do it after we're done with the character arc.

As for the next episode, I'm in the patient group. It's has a release date in America, and I can wait until then. I only watched "Steven Floats" early because it didn't have a release scheduled at the time.

Previously known as "71TheRoman". Wishes his password wouldn't forget who he is...
lycropath Since: Mar, 2010 Relationship Status: I like big bots and I can not lie
#38102: Aug 4th 2016 at 10:46:14 PM

Well I mean I live in Canada so... [lol]

randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Ghost '11
#38103: Aug 4th 2016 at 10:46:17 PM

I'm patient...there's just a faster way.

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AlleyOop Since: Oct, 2010
#38104: Aug 4th 2016 at 10:47:14 PM

I'm reminded of how Ian Jones-Quartey apparently received hate messages of his own for basically telling people to simmer down. In response the people he was criticizing countered him by claiming that ending racism and fatphobia is more important than the personal happiness of the people receiving hate and death threats, and if you don't see eye-to-eye with them you don't really care about these things. And before that there was another online brawl regarding his previous tweet which spawned this, mentioned here.

Edit: Does this make more sense?

edited 4th Aug '16 11:00:00 PM by AlleyOop

randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Ghost '11
#38105: Aug 4th 2016 at 10:50:49 PM

That's a real good way to have the opposite of your desired outcome...

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diyedas Since: Feb, 2010
#38106: Aug 4th 2016 at 10:52:02 PM

To be fair, it's the people on tumblr that I follow that are the impatient ones. And honestly it doesn't matter to me much whether I watch it during it's intended time in America or not because I can't watch it on TV anyways.

randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Ghost '11
#38108: Aug 4th 2016 at 10:55:59 PM

People replied that ending racism and fatphobia is more important than telling people to stop sending death threats.

edited 4th Aug '16 10:56:23 PM by randomness4

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A_dude Nominal guy Since: Aug, 2015 Relationship Status: Waiting for you *wink*
Nominal guy
#38109: Aug 4th 2016 at 11:13:18 PM

[up] Because they know deep down the threat is shallow as fuck? Doesn't stop it from being extremely rude.

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smokeycut Since: Mar, 2013
#38110: Aug 4th 2016 at 11:24:58 PM

It can also lead to a person with paranoia or depression hurting them self.

PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
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#38111: Aug 4th 2016 at 11:25:52 PM

Fantastic episode. Catching up with the thread was a pain though. I have some thoughts: Bismuth can talk in Lion's mane despite Gems needing air to talk, meaning Lion's mane isn't a vacuum, just a gas that moves sound waves the same as air does that also isn't breathable.

Also, to throw my two cents in on the 'big buff women are shown to be bad' controversy (sorry): Rose is huge, strong, and muscular, Garnet is consistently portrayed as the tough, big, and powerful one in the team, and Amethyst is a mini-Quartz with similar proportions who frequently transforms into this huge, hulking, hairy, buff form with more muscles than either Jasper or Bismuth.

galaxydreams RULER Since: Jul, 2016 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
RULER
#38112: Aug 4th 2016 at 11:26:09 PM

What Laurel said didnt sit well with me, what a way to totally remove yourself from the argument by dismissing and invalidating fans views, feelings and their valid criticism and at the same time infantilizing the discussions that are taking place. UGH.

smokeycut Since: Mar, 2013
#38113: Aug 4th 2016 at 11:27:54 PM

She was saying that people shouldn't get hate mail and death threats just because they like a certain character. I don't understand what's wrong with what she said. It's pretty friggin' basic common courtesy.

A_dude Nominal guy Since: Aug, 2015 Relationship Status: Waiting for you *wink*
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#38114: Aug 4th 2016 at 11:30:07 PM

What Laurel said didnt sit well with me, what a way to totally remove yourself from the argument by dismissing and invalidating fans views, feelings and their valid criticism and at the same time infantilizing the discussions that are taking place. UGH.

Nothing that she wrote sounded "dismissing" or "invalidating" of anything. She was just upset at the general in-fighting between LGBTQ viewers, and even kept over what vague.

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randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Ghost '11
#38115: Aug 4th 2016 at 11:31:42 PM

Gems don't need air to talk...water just muffles the sound that comes out instead of wavering.

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galaxydreams RULER Since: Jul, 2016 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
RULER
#38116: Aug 4th 2016 at 11:33:58 PM

Um, isnt she talking about Bismuth? Because if shes talking about Jasper than sure, shes right but if shes talking about Bismuth then my argument still stands. It sucks people cant have a discussion without getting death threats and hatemail I'm not saying shes wrong about that.

edited 4th Aug '16 11:36:14 PM by galaxydreams

Malco from the Gungeon Since: Oct, 2015
#38117: Aug 4th 2016 at 11:36:22 PM

I'm only at "Beach Party"!

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DaftPunch hiya, the name's scout. from lesbian Since: Dec, 2013 Relationship Status: Hugging my pillow
hiya, the name's scout.
#38118: Aug 4th 2016 at 11:36:58 PM

in progress

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AdricDePsycho Rock on, Gold Dust Woman from Never Going Back Again Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
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#38119: Aug 4th 2016 at 11:39:18 PM

Again, we don't know what specifically she's talking about, if it's one specific thing at all.

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Malco from the Gungeon Since: Oct, 2015
#38120: Aug 4th 2016 at 11:39:26 PM

[up][up] Neato! Is that on android? And if so, what app is that?

edited 4th Aug '16 11:39:40 PM by Malco

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EpicBleye drunk bunny from her bed being very eepy Since: Sep, 2014 Relationship Status: In Lesbians with you
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#38121: Aug 5th 2016 at 12:13:29 AM

finally watched Bismuth

damn that was a heavy episode

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unknowing from somewhere.. Since: Mar, 2014
#38122: Aug 5th 2016 at 12:25:09 AM

Ok, a lot of stuff over here so let start:

first: Daft, your mother is....wow, sorry for you, I hope you the best, also never buy an Ipad, really Apple suck ass.

Second: about "buff women are evil" I dont think is like that, granted t two "buff" chararter are more pronte to fight and show more being more forward to that while more feminie since to be reactive: Lapiz fight when she think someone harm her, Pearl is most caution of all gems, Rose while strong to seen someone who charge first into battle and Peridot haven seen a fight since she was poof waaaay back in second season, so you could said is somewhat of steriotype....

But, even more I will rant a little bit and said a lot of fans lately have this tendecy of blame creatior for unfortune implications ignoring is accident or blind spot of the writing, I feel there is tendecy of "if I can see problematic aspect them YOU should do and but you didnt, dosent it?", granted this usually come from....

The social justice FANDOM, a concept I have shared with Alley a couple of time, if you think Malachite was unhealthy oh boy, that wasnt anything, they mix their desire of inclusiveness into their especific fandom issues which let to whole variaty of cringe worthy fan dumb issue, which consider this show we are taking about it is downright sad....or for some, I dont have any pacient for it anymore.

But nevermind, returint to the show, let go to point number four: the shartter point, as weapon it seen efective if you want to end thing quickly but with vet gem? yeah, that is not going to work, I mean I could see Garnet using two of those stuff diriving anyone as shartering machine but Pearl and the rest.....

Now, that drive to point number five: Bismuth, Rose and their morality/Point of view.

For what I can get, Rose seen to be a carpien diem kind of person, even having Greg and Pearl agreeing with her "Rose do what she wants" she is a free spirit and clearly hate the rigid conformity of Homeworld and their impose destiny, and in that aspect Bismuth reflect the most, as it show she clearly love doing stuff for the hell of it.

BUT, as everything it have a flaw and is clear that while Rose never ask question about other(as it show to garnet) she never give any explanation for her action, Rose does what she does and that is end of it, while she have good reason for her actions at the same she dosent have the need to explain to other, she just....do things and that it, end of story, THAT is why Bismuth is so mad at her.

In sort, Rose is chaotic good and verged on chaotic neutral at times.

PD: sorry for making my post so large but you guys talk about a lot of stuf and I want to cover all the bases, also sorry if you have problem with my english, you know not being my first lenguage and all.

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randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Ghost '11
#38123: Aug 5th 2016 at 12:28:05 AM

[up][up]It may have been heavy, but it wasn't a bomb...those two things should always be together.

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SpookyMask Since: Jan, 2011
#38124: Aug 5th 2016 at 12:28:40 AM

Eh, tumblr is all about bullying people into submission so nothing new there tongue

smokeycut Since: Mar, 2013
#38125: Aug 5th 2016 at 12:39:46 AM

Zuke was referring to ship bashing.

tbh, the only ships I've really seen bashed are Jasper x Lapis and Greg x Pearl.


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