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Ruise Nyanpasu~ from your subconscious Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: It's not my fault I'm not popular!
Nyanpasu~
#38001: Aug 4th 2016 at 7:57:51 PM

That cake looks so gooood.

Hiatuses be damned, we've come a long way.

Were aired promo spoilers ok here? It's not very spoily. I'm just very excited about Sardonyx's return. Sardonyx is best fusion.

Loves feel-good animation a whole lot.
darkabomination Since: Mar, 2012
#38002: Aug 4th 2016 at 8:01:22 PM

[up] Oh goddamnit. Please, let's not even take the risk.

I'd say with what we know about Bismuth, there's a good bet it was our's that did the deed. Lapis' explanation that they presumed her to be a Crystal Gem and put her in the mirror seems uncharacteristic. My thought is this might've been her pre-Crystal Gem.

Regardless, it does make sense that a builder/smith class would be able to combine her Gem into a functional playback device.

Also, add Bismuth to the list of saved intact Gems after the war.

edited 4th Aug '16 8:02:51 PM by darkabomination

Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#38003: Aug 4th 2016 at 8:03:19 PM

Lapis seemed pretty sure that Homeworld Gems put her in the mirror. Because they were asking questions about where the Rebel base was.

And didn't believe her when she said Dantooine she didn't know.

Forever liveblogging the Avengers
Ukokira Since: May, 2012
#38004: Aug 4th 2016 at 8:05:55 PM

Aired promos are usually ok before apparantly people decided they're not. Which leads to people going to the leak thread to talk about official promos while running into leaks that they would rather avoid.

It's kind of dumb avoiding the official promos given how hard Crewniverse smashed Bismuth in our face and said "LOOK SHE EXISTS ACKNOWLEDGE HER" with all the promos and the commercial.

JBC31187 Since: Jan, 2015
#38006: Aug 4th 2016 at 8:10:28 PM

Man, that Bismuth concept is creepy.

RegisteredUser Body contains a Human Soul. from It's as cold as it looks. Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Desperate
Body contains a Human Soul.
#38007: Aug 4th 2016 at 8:12:57 PM

There's no question that it was a Bismuth that poofed Lapis back in the war, and thinking through things, we can be pretty certain that even if it's not provable that it was this Crystal Gem Bismuth, that it was a Crystal Gem Bismuth who was responsible... Because Homeworld Bismuth's aren't fighters. They're builders and architects. No matter how chaotic things got on Earth, I can't see Homeworld conscribing them to go punch random Gems. Homeworld's not that flexible.

Add to this that the Bismuth who poofed Lapis had her gem in the exact same position as "our" Bismuth (not to mention simple consveration of detail), and I think it's pretty flimsy to believe it's likely it wasn't "our" Bismuth who was responsible. (Plus, y'know, attacking a maybe-aristocrat non-combatant kinda 100% gels with Bismuth's unilateral hatred for Gem nobility.)

FawfulCrump Since: Dec, 2010
#38008: Aug 4th 2016 at 8:13:14 PM

[up][up][up]Oh my God, Steven's present.

edited 4th Aug '16 8:13:23 PM by FawfulCrump

LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#38009: Aug 4th 2016 at 8:14:30 PM

Yeah, I'm not resistant to the idea anymore. I still don't like it, so tired of Lapis drama, but it's probably true.

edited 4th Aug '16 8:14:53 PM by LSBK

randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Ghost '11
#38010: Aug 4th 2016 at 8:17:10 PM

We've been done with it for a while...it'll probably stay that way.

edited 4th Aug '16 8:17:49 PM by randomness4

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thatother1dude from Land of the Ill, Annoyin' Since: Jan, 2001
#38011: Aug 4th 2016 at 8:18:35 PM

I think another thing suggesting it's the same Bismuth is that Lapis seems like she's one of those "elites" that the Crystal Gem Bismuth hates so much.

Man, that Bismuth concept is creepy.
Still kinda cute, though.

Oh my God, Steven's present
Dammit, didn't notice it at first. Some excellent Black Comedy.

darkabomination Since: Mar, 2012
#38012: Aug 4th 2016 at 8:19:27 PM

While I'm not necessarily bringing it up and won't argue for or against it (we've all made our opinions clear on the matter) Bismuth's introduction makes me feel like the niche Jasper could fill as the Blood Knight with honorable motives that the Crystal Gems don't agree with was taken up by Bismuth herself.

As an aside, it would be epic as hell to see those two fight. Jasper seems the type who would definitely respect her ruthlessness in combat.

DeathsApprentice The Ultimate Lifeform from The Ark Since: Aug, 2011 Relationship Status: Is that a kind of food?
The Ultimate Lifeform
#38013: Aug 4th 2016 at 8:21:53 PM

You know, I just saw a post that pointed this out (after lots and LOTS of complaining about the SU fandom on Tumblr hating the episode because it was against Bismuth's idea of shattering Gems indistinctly... which I didn't realize was a thing people were upset about? What even... well, anyway): Bismuth is a lot like Jet, isn't she?

When we're done, there won't be anything left.
randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Ghost '11
#38014: Aug 4th 2016 at 8:24:20 PM

Not really, Jet wanted to kill the bad folk while the innocent would end up being a casualty at that cost. There's no ambiguity, it was just wrong.

edited 4th Aug '16 8:25:27 PM by randomness4

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LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#38015: Aug 4th 2016 at 8:25:37 PM

He was totally willing to wipe out an entire town of innocents on the basis of "liberating" them from the bad guys.

edited 4th Aug '16 8:25:57 PM by LSBK

DeathsApprentice The Ultimate Lifeform from The Ark Since: Aug, 2011 Relationship Status: Is that a kind of food?
The Ultimate Lifeform
#38016: Aug 4th 2016 at 8:27:26 PM

Hmm, yeah that's a good point. I forgot about that. (It's been a while since I watched Avatar.)

When we're done, there won't be anything left.
Masterofchaos Since: Dec, 2010
#38017: Aug 4th 2016 at 8:28:07 PM

Anyway this episode was trash and I'm just gonna repeat what others said; the crew needs to stop making their big and large characters evil.

Ok bye.

-rolls out-

xanderiskander Since: Mar, 2012
#38018: Aug 4th 2016 at 8:28:16 PM

I was going to say. I don't even really remember Jet much at all tbh.

lycropath Since: Mar, 2010 Relationship Status: I like big bots and I can not lie
#38019: Aug 4th 2016 at 8:31:02 PM

He wanted to flood and drown a Fire Nation colonial town.

ClownToy Since: Aug, 2015
#38020: Aug 4th 2016 at 8:31:51 PM

[up][up][up]Rose was big and large and she wasn't evil.

edited 4th Aug '16 8:32:23 PM by ClownToy

thatother1dude from Land of the Ill, Annoyin' Since: Jan, 2001
#38021: Aug 4th 2016 at 8:32:24 PM

Bismuth totally did plan to kill all the Homeworld gems ("The Homeworld Gems won't be able to retake this planet when they're reduced to shards.") She only seemed to actively hate the aristocracy, but didn't care about the rest either.

[up]They're very unlikely to respond to your post or any others.

edited 4th Aug '16 8:33:09 PM by thatother1dude

lycropath Since: Mar, 2010 Relationship Status: I like big bots and I can not lie
#38022: Aug 4th 2016 at 8:34:16 PM

[up]Didn't she say she say something like she was going to liberate the smallfolk from diamond tyranny?

edited 4th Aug '16 8:34:28 PM by lycropath

randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Ghost '11
#38023: Aug 4th 2016 at 8:34:35 PM

She mostly had it out for the Diamonds and those that took part in the War though...I don't think she intended to kill "everyone" if it wasn't necessary.

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LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#38024: Aug 4th 2016 at 8:34:46 PM

If the person is only looking at the surface without paying attention to the actual contents I doubt anything said to the contrary will matter.

edited 4th Aug '16 8:36:48 PM by LSBK

hcobb Since: Jan, 2001
#38025: Aug 4th 2016 at 8:35:47 PM

Clearly as the first of the Corrupter Gems, Rose was a warning that there was something very strange about Earth.

wild mass guess Rose left Bismuth in Steven's gift basket to see if his strengthened powers could overcome her resistance to mind control.

The breaking point was a trinket of no value to Rose. She needed weapons that would poof down enemy gems for her to weep over, and so gain more loyal servants.


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