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randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Ghost '11
#37451: Aug 3rd 2016 at 5:15:02 PM

Amethyst is just one of those people who likes feeling superior...when special.

Thas why she was the cool "big" sis of a gem, she never offered Stephen much support...can't have him growing up too fast.

[up]Wondering what kind of restraining tools the CGs have for a behemoth like Jaspee.

edited 3rd Aug '16 5:16:15 PM by randomness4

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LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#37452: Aug 3rd 2016 at 5:15:04 PM

Why would she break down after finding out Rose is gone? I mean, I guessed she'd be disappointed she didn't get to be the one to do it but...

randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Ghost '11
#37453: Aug 3rd 2016 at 5:17:30 PM

Stephen is still "Rose"...there's still hope left in this world for them to fight.

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dmysta3000 (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#37454: Aug 3rd 2016 at 5:18:30 PM

If anything she'll probably get even more pissed off that Steven isnt Rose.

GUNDAMU GUNDAMU
smokeycut Since: Mar, 2013
#37455: Aug 3rd 2016 at 5:20:10 PM

Her only reason for existing is to fight, and the one person she always is obsessed with fighting is Rose. At this point, her mission has failed, her partner defected, her ship is destroyed, she can't become Malachite...

All she's got left is killing Rose. If she finds out Rose died 14 years ago, that'd leave her with absolutely no purpose. No purpose = no reason to exist. It'd break her, emotionally.

randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Ghost '11
#37456: Aug 3rd 2016 at 5:21:51 PM

She could still kill the Crystal Gems...or maybe some humans.

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Mr.Badguy Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
#37457: Aug 3rd 2016 at 5:22:44 PM

I have mixed feelings about this episode, except for ponytail amethyst omg

It bothers me that the main conflict between Steven and Amethyst was so played for comedy, because that is a really good spike for some conflict, and instead it's just a big joke that feels like it should be so much more. Could you imagine if Pearl v Amethyst at Kindergarten was like this? "I'm so much fatter than you, Pearl!"

But when it allowed itself to be dramatic, it worked. Steven getting outright pissed at Amethyst for resenting his progress and acting like being weak was what he should be was a really good beat, and them just collapsing together at the end, Amethyst lamenting that for all she's told she can be anything, she can never be what she wants to be, completely ignorant of the fact that she just helped Peridot through this exact scenario, while Steven has to deal with the fact that he's not Rose, and it is super significant that he said her full name, rather than referring to her as mom. He's not talking about her this time; he's talking about the legacy he needs to live up to.

Other than that I also really like seeing Steven getting angry. My only significant complaint with Steven, and really the entire show, is that Steven has shown himself to be too psychoanalytical at times, so I'm liking Season 3 showing him acting cunning, mischievous, and downright angry sometimes.

LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#37458: Aug 3rd 2016 at 5:23:15 PM

It's more like she's obsessed with killing Steven and just thinks he's Rose. Once she finds out the truth, I'd honestly expect her to just keep trying to kill him, with the added reason of being disgusted with what he is.

She has plenty of reasons to fight (in her mind) Rose, or no Rose.

DeathsApprentice The Ultimate Lifeform from The Ark Since: Aug, 2011 Relationship Status: Is that a kind of food?
The Ultimate Lifeform
#37459: Aug 3rd 2016 at 5:23:28 PM

@random: Well, sure, but in "The Return", before she found out that Steven was "Rose", she didn't even want to bother fighting the Crystal Gems because they weren't worth her time. But with "Rose", she has a personal vendetta, since Rose actually beat her. So I guess it's different.

edited 3rd Aug '16 5:23:50 PM by DeathsApprentice

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SilentColossus (Don’t ask)
#37460: Aug 3rd 2016 at 5:26:03 PM

Jasper did technically go off mission when she said "Rose Quartz takes priority" but the way she said that makes me think she KNEW Yellow Diamond would want to know about Rose Quartz still being alive and being reformed into a human.

Sure, but they were not sent to Earth to deal with the Crystal Gems. Jasper should have reported this first, and then done as commanded. Since it's Rose, they'd probably want to send more than a single Quartz warrior and a Peridot to deal with her. Call it in, and wait for new orders and perhaps back up.

edited 3rd Aug '16 5:27:07 PM by SilentColossus

randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Ghost '11
#37461: Aug 3rd 2016 at 5:26:06 PM

[up][up]"Rose" only "beat" her last episode...they've never actually met on the battlefield: war setting. If anything she should have a grudge towards Garnet.

edited 3rd Aug '16 5:26:46 PM by randomness4

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AlleyOop Since: Oct, 2010
#37462: Aug 3rd 2016 at 5:28:31 PM

I liked that Steven was perceptive about Amethyst's issues after it seemed like he was a little too glib during training..

LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#37463: Aug 3rd 2016 at 5:29:01 PM

Yeah, there are still some worthy opponents on Earth and some scores to settle even if Jasper does learn the truth.

edited 3rd Aug '16 5:29:59 PM by LSBK

Austin Since: Jan, 2001
#37464: Aug 3rd 2016 at 5:32:42 PM

So Steven can add spikes to his protective bubble now...

I guess you could say...

That every Rose has its thorns?

randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Ghost '11
#37465: Aug 3rd 2016 at 5:33:24 PM

Amethyst and Pearl aren't threats proved by the whomp whooping given in "Crack the whip"...so it's really just Garnet and "Rose" Stephen that the "Jasper" gem needs to deal.

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LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#37466: Aug 3rd 2016 at 5:34:24 PM

There's stuff with Lapis, either fusing with her again or revenge for the rejection. And Amethyst is almost certain to prove herself an actual challenge later on.

randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Ghost '11
#37467: Aug 3rd 2016 at 5:36:54 PM

Hopefully Amethyst gets a new weapon, her whip ain't gonna crap against a tank like Jaspee and it's too easy to counter.

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LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#37468: Aug 3rd 2016 at 5:39:03 PM

Well, in real life whips aren't weapons and would apparently be terrible in a real fight so maybe they're trying to be true to life?

Austin Since: Jan, 2001
#37469: Aug 3rd 2016 at 5:40:21 PM

...didn't know you could ruin ruins; isn't that kind of the point?

You're forgetting that this is Pearl. She probably thinks that even messes should be organized.

On the subject of Amethyst betraying the Gems, we've talked about that before, and I said that I didn't think it would happen unless things got really, really bad, bad to a level that I honestly don't think the show would go.

In my opinion, a more likely scenario is instead of Amethyst defecting to Homeworld, she makes a one-off deal with them. In exchange for doing one particular thing for them, they'd reform her to be like other Quartzes. Naturally, this would have huge repurcussions, even if Ame goes back to the Crystal Gems.

DeathsApprentice The Ultimate Lifeform from The Ark Since: Aug, 2011 Relationship Status: Is that a kind of food?
The Ultimate Lifeform
#37470: Aug 3rd 2016 at 5:41:07 PM

[up]x2 Helmets aren't weapons either, yet Jasper uses it as a pretty effective one. Then again, they don't have hammer head-y parts to them, either....

edited 3rd Aug '16 5:41:40 PM by DeathsApprentice

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Austin Since: Jan, 2001
#37471: Aug 3rd 2016 at 5:41:40 PM

Hopefully Amethyst gets a new weapon, her whip ain't gonna crap against a tank like Jaspee and it's too easy to counter.

Oh, I don't know. Pearl did manage to beat Sugilite, so I think Amethyst could beat Jasper if she finds a way to fight her indirectly.

randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Ghost '11
#37472: Aug 3rd 2016 at 5:43:59 PM

[up][up][up][up]They tried to make them useful, but a character good at spacing and a character who doesn't flinch pretty much ruin it regardless.

[up]Unlike Sugilite, Jaspee doesn't have a weapon that'll cause self harm...

edited 3rd Aug '16 5:46:28 PM by randomness4

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FawfulCrump Since: Dec, 2010
#37473: Aug 3rd 2016 at 5:44:53 PM

Good episode. Seemed pretty different in terms of tone. Most episodes are either comedic throughout or start that way then get serious in the last few minutes. This episode was primarily comedic with somber undertones.

BlueBlaze64 The Watcher on the Tower from Empire City Since: Sep, 2012 Relationship Status: I'm just a poor boy, nobody loves me
The Watcher on the Tower
#37474: Aug 3rd 2016 at 6:01:43 PM

Her only reason for existing is to fight, and the one person she always is obsessed with fighting is Rose. At this point, her mission has failed, her partner defected, her ship is destroyed, she can't become Malachite...

All she's got left is killing Rose. If she finds out Rose died 14 years ago, that'd leave her with absolutely no purpose. No purpose = no reason to exist. It'd break her, emotionally.

I just wish the show got that across better. I hope that does end up being her motivation.

edited 3rd Aug '16 6:11:32 PM by BlueBlaze64

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randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Ghost '11
#37475: Aug 3rd 2016 at 6:06:30 PM

Get it across better? Besides trying to fuse with Lazuli, she's been doing nothing but fighting...mostly trying to fight the Crystal Gems.

That part about Rosey is just speculation, the only thing she seems obsessed with is getting stronger.

edited 3rd Aug '16 6:07:49 PM by randomness4

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