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thatother1dude from Land of the Ill, Annoyin' Since: Jan, 2001
#37301: Aug 3rd 2016 at 10:46:02 AM

[up]Yes, obviously. None of hcobb's wild mass guesss are serious. Few of them are funny.

randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Ghost '11
#37302: Aug 3rd 2016 at 10:46:38 AM

[up][up]Yes it would...which is why he didn't want to do it to Perry winks in "Message Received".

edited 3rd Aug '16 10:47:05 AM by randomness4

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smokeycut Since: Mar, 2013
#37303: Aug 3rd 2016 at 10:47:38 AM

So, Matt Burnett described Jasper as being a combination of the Magic The Gathering archetypes W/B/R. I don't know if B is referring to Black or Blue, but the important ones are Red and White for what I was thinking about.

Red is impulsive, aggressive, passionate, and chaotic. That fits Jasper to a T.

White is order, life, and healing. Order fits Jasper's devotion to Homeworld's rules of how gems are supposed to behave according to their purpose (so her rant about why the Crystal Gems are all flawed in The Return, plus her breaking speech to Amethyst in Crack The Whip).

If you look at what Jaspers, as a gemstone, represent, it's strength (check), energy (check), passion (check), courage (check), and increasing one's health and life force.

So, twice the idea of healing and life comes up in relation to Jasper. Inreally wonder how that'll come into play. Maybe she has some form of healing powers as well?

PhiSat Planeswalker from Everywhere and Nowhere Since: Jan, 2011
Planeswalker
#37304: Aug 3rd 2016 at 10:48:57 AM

[up]B is Black, because Black is the selfish colour and takes B and L for itself. U is blue. Which is why I believe Jasper to be primarily motivated by rage and selfishness, Red and Black's prime traits.

When White is combined as a colour with Black and Red in MTG lore it's usually in the form of order, making Jasper a Knight Templar.

edited 3rd Aug '16 10:53:23 AM by PhiSat

Oissu!
randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Ghost '11
#37305: Aug 3rd 2016 at 10:53:54 AM

[up][up]Maybe that has to do with how tanky she is, because she's din-dang durable.

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RegisteredUser Body contains a Human Soul. from It's as cold as it looks. Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Desperate
Body contains a Human Soul.
#37306: Aug 3rd 2016 at 11:03:31 AM

Edit: Oh, Magic, so that's what the heck Matt was talking about. I had no idea what those acronyms were when I read that interview. Thanks for that. tongue

Edit 2: After a bit of brush up reading to confirm Color meaning... W/B/R could definitely work as Jasper's "alignment" from the way she's acted throughout her appearances. She's brash, passionate, zealous, cruel, and absolutely assured in herself and her worldview... But the core of that [toxic and at least half-misplaced] self-assurance is rooted not in her own worth in and of itself, but her worth to the world and order she is a part of. Jasper commits her cruelty and selfishness in the name of righteousness, because what she does is fundamentally "Being A Quartz" and acting in such a manner must surely serve her granted station in the great work she's a part of.

After all, she is a Quartz, and among the other traits a Quartz is "Meant To Have" according to Peridot is loyalty. And as Gems are at least "meant" to pop out the ground already knowing their purpose in life, that means being born loyal to the Gem Empire and the Diamonds, to an even greater extreme than most Gems... What better than in-born, unquestioning loyalty to breed absolute assurance that, as long as you do what you were made for, that you will always be righteous?

I wonder what Jasper thought when she was ordered to flee from Earth? If she looked back as the Diamond's "song" covered the planet? If she allowed herself to think on the troops and comrades she no longer had? Or who the Gem Monsters she's enslaved used to be?
I have no doubt she hasn't spared a thought for any of it, and wouldn't want to. It's probably easy for her, because, after all, that's not what a Quartz "Is Meant To Do."

Meanwhile, I'll just nervily relink this drawing what I made because I want someone to validate me dang it.

edited 3rd Aug '16 11:28:13 AM by RegisteredUser

randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Ghost '11
#37307: Aug 3rd 2016 at 11:08:05 AM

Looks good.

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thatother1dude from Land of the Ill, Annoyin' Since: Jan, 2001
#37308: Aug 3rd 2016 at 11:09:17 AM

MTG lore it's usually in the form of order, making Jasper a Knight Templar
I think the White was more about her being a conformist to Homeword culture.

[up][up]I saw that before, and thought it was decent, but forgot to reply because there were pages left for me to read before I could.

edited 3rd Aug '16 11:14:38 AM by thatother1dude

PhiSat Planeswalker from Everywhere and Nowhere Since: Jan, 2011
Planeswalker
#37309: Aug 3rd 2016 at 11:13:15 AM

It probably is, but mixed with red she could be a KT too, someone who enforces those ideals to an extreme.

Oissu!
xanderiskander Since: Mar, 2012
#37310: Aug 3rd 2016 at 11:16:46 AM

Forget Jasper.

Who's excited for Amethyst development? Because this is like the first time I'm excited about what they might do with the character going forward. And for someone like me who mostly felt "meh" on most of her episodes, that impresses me.

edited 3rd Aug '16 11:17:11 AM by xanderiskander

LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#37311: Aug 3rd 2016 at 11:20:10 AM

It looks like they're heading towards actually making something of stuff they've hinted at before.

PhiSat Planeswalker from Everywhere and Nowhere Since: Jan, 2011
Planeswalker
#37312: Aug 3rd 2016 at 11:21:03 AM

(Temporarily) Evil Amethyst could be cool. I'd be cool with that.

Oissu!
xanderiskander Since: Mar, 2012
#37313: Aug 3rd 2016 at 11:23:27 AM

I'm really sensing some edginess coming in her future.. I want them hold nothing back and go full hog with it. Give me all that juicy drama.

randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Ghost '11
#37314: Aug 3rd 2016 at 11:23:52 AM

More self-esteem issues...nothin' new here.

Still great.

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AlleyOop Since: Oct, 2010
#37315: Aug 3rd 2016 at 11:25:14 AM

I've always felt Amethyst kinda took a backseat in the character development department due to her young age so it's good to see how she's being affected by all of this Homeworld stuff.

[up],[down]I do hope she can move on her self-esteem problems though. I agree that every time she gets a focus episode it usually recycles the same broad issue. Meanwhile Pearl's had her own self-esteem issues from being a Pearl, her inability to let go of Rose, her pathological need to be in a relationship, and so on.

edited 3rd Aug '16 12:04:51 PM by AlleyOop

xanderiskander Since: Mar, 2012
#37316: Aug 3rd 2016 at 11:29:04 AM

That's been my main problem with her so far. She's had the same set up happen multiple times, but there's no pay off, or closure to it yet. So until now it was like "who cares? you're not going to do anything with it". But now I feel like events will really kickstart something with her.

randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Ghost '11
#37317: Aug 3rd 2016 at 11:31:35 AM

They obviously were going to do something with it...the bar just wasn't set high for her issues.

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DeathsApprentice The Ultimate Lifeform from The Ark Since: Aug, 2011 Relationship Status: Is that a kind of food?
The Ultimate Lifeform
#37318: Aug 3rd 2016 at 11:43:11 AM

I am very excited for this Amethyst arc. I can't wait to see where the next episodes will take her character. I've seen a couple of posts theorizing that she might temporarily go evil. That could be cool to explore.

When we're done, there won't be anything left.
SonOfSharknado Love is Love is Love Since: Oct, 2013 Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
Love is Love is Love
#37319: Aug 3rd 2016 at 11:49:08 AM

Awww. That episode was both amazing and adorable and sad.

My various fanfics.
xanderiskander Since: Mar, 2012
#37320: Aug 3rd 2016 at 11:58:34 AM

They obviously were going to do something with it...the bar just wasn't set high for her issues.
It wasn't really that obvious to me that they were, because they kept recycling the same issues with little or no resolution. It really only dealt with a couple small issues and lessons, to the point that it seemed like that was all they were going to do with Amethyst's character.

Until recently.

edited 3rd Aug '16 12:00:54 PM by xanderiskander

randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Ghost '11
#37321: Aug 3rd 2016 at 12:10:56 PM

They did the same thing with Pearl...except even more.

They've only focused on Amethyst's issues in 5 episodes...6 episodes now and getting a continous arc.

edited 3rd Aug '16 12:12:23 PM by randomness4

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Ruise Nyanpasu~ from your subconscious Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: It's not my fault I'm not popular!
Nyanpasu~
#37322: Aug 3rd 2016 at 12:15:04 PM

I really liked all the characters'...characterization in this episode. First time I was actually interested in Stevonnie! Lion was there! Jasper seems to be doing well for herself as an Ineffectual Sympathetic Villain . She's just as entertaining as Peridot was as a villain. This is already worse than the Peridot arc though, just catch her and force her into being your friend already. Amethyst being Amethyst x 10, but girl, that new outfit is just ratchet. I liked Jasper and Amethyst's interactions. They were almost sisterly for a second, until they weren't. Jasper used to be bigger. The art in this episode was really, really different. Also Lion was there.

Loves feel-good animation a whole lot.
AdricDePsycho Rock on, Gold Dust Woman from Never Going Back Again Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
Rock on, Gold Dust Woman
#37323: Aug 3rd 2016 at 12:16:54 PM

I just realized something:

Pearl and Garnet got that big arc together because of Peridot.

Now Amethyst is gonna have a big arc because of Jasper.

Have you any dreams you'd like to sell?
randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Ghost '11
#37324: Aug 3rd 2016 at 12:17:43 PM

Ratchet? You mean wretched?

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smokeycut Since: Mar, 2013
#37325: Aug 3rd 2016 at 12:18:08 PM

Jasperization.

I can see it. The idea of Amethyst becoming Jasper's apprentice is pretty interesting, and I'd love to see where it goes/if it'd open up any doors for future character development.


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