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A_dude Nominal guy Since: Aug, 2015 Relationship Status: Waiting for you *wink*
Nominal guy
#37126: Aug 2nd 2016 at 5:52:29 PM

It would be unbelievably sweet if Peridot was the one who got Amethyst to believe in herself again after this. Like in "Too Short to Ride" in reverse. The Shorty Squad's gotta look out for each other.

I want this now. I want this worse than I've ever wanted anything from this show, especially now that my dream canon of Stevonnie riding into battle atop Lion has been realized.

I mean, think about it. Once Amethyst and Peridot realize they compliment one another, we could see the Shorty Squad accomplish so much, like 

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DeathsApprentice The Ultimate Lifeform from The Ark Since: Aug, 2011 Relationship Status: Is that a kind of food?
The Ultimate Lifeform
#37127: Aug 2nd 2016 at 5:52:52 PM

[up]x3 I guess. It's still funny, though. Jasper didn't think that plan through.

edited 2nd Aug '16 5:53:21 PM by DeathsApprentice

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Mr.Badguy Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
#37128: Aug 2nd 2016 at 5:52:58 PM

[up]x10 How dare you imply Jasper-chan has eyes for anyone other than her beloved Lapis-sama.

edited 2nd Aug '16 5:53:35 PM by Mr.Badguy

randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Ghost '11
#37129: Aug 2nd 2016 at 5:53:02 PM

[up][up]She started an army of only 2 corrupted Gems...and got cocky.

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AlleyOop Since: Oct, 2010
#37130: Aug 2nd 2016 at 5:53:40 PM

@smokeycut

Probably the sexual undertones to the fusion dances, plus Malachite being treated as a metaphor for rape (later episodes "upgrade" it to an abusive long-term relationship of any kind), the way Sardonyx came off as Sex for Solace, and Garnet leading Peridot on about it as a form of losing her fusion virginity. Right now they could still encompass romantic relationships of all kinds including asexual ones, but nevertheless some of the presentation leans towards sexually active romantic partners.

I agree that I'm not a big fan of the fusion-as-sex interpretation specifically, and the idea of it makes me deeply uncomfortable, especially when it involves children. Not to mention even if fusion can encompass romantic asexuality that would still cause problems for aroace people whose equivalents would simply have no desire to fuse at all, and should not be treated as defective for that. It'd be nice if they could establish at least one example of a fusion that is unambiguously 100% platonic friendship or familial in nature, without any room to read it as a form of romantic relationship of any kind, in order to wash away that potential stigma so that an aroace-seeming character could fuse without Unfortunate Implications.

edited 2nd Aug '16 5:59:56 PM by AlleyOop

xanderiskander Since: Mar, 2012
#37131: Aug 2nd 2016 at 5:54:04 PM

Yeah, but you'd think she'd have something like an axe, or a gauntlet, or a sword, or, well, anything besides that awkward headbutting centric fighting style.
I feel like it's a Shout-Out to a lesson a certainIop Brain learned about "using their head".

thatother1dude from Land of the Ill, Annoyin' Since: Jan, 2001
#37132: Aug 2nd 2016 at 5:54:11 PM

She was really damn lucky Pearl and Garnet weren't there, because honestly? She would have died.
Which makes it kind of baffling that she would retreat when it was just Stevonnie.

(And they're not gonna kill her when they can just bubble her; that would literally be cold-blooded murder.)

She's a lot more threatening than Peridot.
Peridot never poofed anyone, much less was a second away from shattered them.

smokeycut Since: Mar, 2013
#37133: Aug 2nd 2016 at 5:54:43 PM

With all of Jasper's obsession with gems behaving the "proper way", I'm really starting to suspect there's something she's hiding. It seems likely that she'll find herself in a Boomerang Bigot situation.

[up] Friend Ship. She was seconds away from shattering three gems in Friend Ship.

edited 2nd Aug '16 5:56:53 PM by smokeycut

FawfulCrump Since: Dec, 2010
#37134: Aug 2nd 2016 at 5:55:23 PM

Someone brought up the way Villeco and Molisee draw Amethyst, and I feel like pointing out they're the only ones who regularly show both of her eyes.

That might be part of why I find Villeco and Molisee's Amethyst art off-putting.

Kind of mixed on their art. Aside from what I've stated already, they have a tendency to morph Pearl into her Season 1 form randomly. On the other hand, the constant exaggerated expressions during Peridot and YD's shouting match had me rolling.

LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#37135: Aug 2nd 2016 at 5:55:40 PM

She doesn't seem anymore obsessed with it than Peridot or Pearl.

DeathsApprentice The Ultimate Lifeform from The Ark Since: Aug, 2011 Relationship Status: Is that a kind of food?
The Ultimate Lifeform
#37136: Aug 2nd 2016 at 5:55:44 PM

Not to mention even if fusion can encompass romantic asexuality that would still cause problems for aroace people whose equivalents would simply have no desire to fuse at all, and should not be treated as defective for that.

Honestly, yeah. That's why the fusion-as-sex (or strictly romantic relationships) makes me pretty uncomfortable. Being aro ace and all. :/

@that1otherdude: By "died" I meant "been poofed." I didn't mean they would shatter Jasper.

edited 2nd Aug '16 5:57:25 PM by DeathsApprentice

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Mr.Badguy Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
#37137: Aug 2nd 2016 at 5:57:29 PM

Fusion means a lot of things. It's sex, it's consent, it's eternal love, it's physical intimacy, it's two kids who mean the world to each other, and it's a casual fling.

DaftPunch hiya, the name's scout. from lesbian Since: Dec, 2013 Relationship Status: Hugging my pillow
hiya, the name's scout.
#37138: Aug 2nd 2016 at 5:58:47 PM

Sometimes I wonder what it would look like if I were half gem, and if I fused with some other gems.

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randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Ghost '11
#37139: Aug 2nd 2016 at 5:59:27 PM

[up][up]All the relationships.

edited 2nd Aug '16 5:59:42 PM by randomness4

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thatother1dude from Land of the Ill, Annoyin' Since: Jan, 2001
#37140: Aug 2nd 2016 at 6:00:30 PM

[up][up]That's just a sign that this is a good show.

BlueBlaze64 The Watcher on the Tower from Empire City Since: Sep, 2012 Relationship Status: I'm just a poor boy, nobody loves me
The Watcher on the Tower
#37141: Aug 2nd 2016 at 6:10:14 PM

"Alone Together" was the first episode of a cartoon that ever made me feel both uncomfortable and mesmerized. It was then that I realized how great this show is.

And I don't mean "uncomfortable" as in "against what I believe is appropriate", I mean it as in "out of my comfort zone", which I like to consider a good thing for television.

edited 2nd Aug '16 6:13:42 PM by BlueBlaze64

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AegisP Kindhearted SSSSSNAKE Man Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
Kindhearted SSSSSNAKE Man
#37142: Aug 2nd 2016 at 6:14:03 PM

I put a digimon power up song along with the Stevonnie Jasper battle. Epic. Sure I love the amazing soundtrack the show has but nothing says "Trigger an higher level of Power" than "Brave Heart"

As long as this flower is in my heart. My Strength will flow without end.
Mr.Badguy Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
#37143: Aug 2nd 2016 at 6:14:41 PM

Spoilered for content warning purposes.

So I kinda had a thought, given the heavy metaphor behind fusion about consent, trust and intimacy, I wonder if at some point we'll ever see a Gem forcing another into fusion. Like, not Jasper coercing Lapis into something she had to agree to, but outright dragging them into a fusion they don't want.

Eh well that's basically the Cluster Gems I guess.

edited 2nd Aug '16 6:15:18 PM by Mr.Badguy

xanderiskander Since: Mar, 2012
#37144: Aug 2nd 2016 at 6:14:43 PM

Most of my friends, are more on the uncomfortable side when it comes to Stevonnie. Because while there's more to it from what Word of God have said, the sexual subtext is there. And they're kids.

edited 2nd Aug '16 6:15:21 PM by xanderiskander

Mr.Badguy Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
#37145: Aug 2nd 2016 at 6:16:28 PM

There's no sex subtext when it comes to Stevonnie. They're a metaphor for puberty and the unwanted attention you catch from it, as well as symbolic of the bond Steven and Connie share (you know, like Garnet), but they're not two kids boning into a fusion.

BlueBlaze64 The Watcher on the Tower from Empire City Since: Sep, 2012 Relationship Status: I'm just a poor boy, nobody loves me
The Watcher on the Tower
#37146: Aug 2nd 2016 at 6:16:51 PM

[up][up] Well, the "We can stop if you want" "No, it's fine" exchange makes it the most obvious subtext in the show.

[up] "They're not two kids boning into a fusion" is the weirdest out-of-context line in this discussion.

edited 2nd Aug '16 6:20:32 PM by BlueBlaze64

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AegisP Kindhearted SSSSSNAKE Man Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
Kindhearted SSSSSNAKE Man
#37147: Aug 2nd 2016 at 6:17:58 PM

[up][up] I doubt that will happen, because like it or not there must be some sort of middle ground in fusion or the gems will split apart.

As long as this flower is in my heart. My Strength will flow without end.
xanderiskander Since: Mar, 2012
#37148: Aug 2nd 2016 at 6:22:26 PM

After being introduced to it with more explicit humor with other fusions it becomes kind of hard for them to unsee it that way. They take the crew explaining it as being "it's practically any relationship not just romantic" as backpedalling.

edited 2nd Aug '16 6:24:26 PM by xanderiskander

smokeycut Since: Mar, 2013
#37149: Aug 2nd 2016 at 6:22:35 PM

Oh, I didn't even notice this before, but Jasper has her eyeliner back! She must have found a Sephora while she was up north.

[up] or people are reading way too into it, and it was a metaphor for crushes/puberty/growing up.

edited 2nd Aug '16 6:23:38 PM by smokeycut

Mr.Badguy Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
#37150: Aug 2nd 2016 at 6:23:09 PM

Yeah, there'd have to be some way around that. We have seen with Malachite that a Gem can force a fusion to remain, though.

And also because it might be too dark, even for Steven Universe.


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