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BlueBlaze64 The Watcher on the Tower from Empire City Since: Sep, 2012 Relationship Status: I'm just a poor boy, nobody loves me
The Watcher on the Tower
#36351: Jul 28th 2016 at 6:25:54 PM

I have this fear that Jasper is starting to be characterized similar to Kevin: Since what makes them an antagonist is the fact that they're pushy (or forceful) in terms of a relationship, they don't feel the need to give them complexity.

It works for a side character that no one expects much from, but not a true-blue villain.

edited 28th Jul '16 6:26:54 PM by BlueBlaze64

"The cruelest thing you can do to an artist is tell them their work is flawless when it isn't." -Ben "Yahtzee" Croshaw
WillKeaton from Alberta, Canada Since: Jun, 2010
#36352: Jul 28th 2016 at 6:28:22 PM

I don't think I've seen a character on TV say something along the lines of "I'm a bad person and I deserve to be punished," since Digimon's Ken Ichijouji.

edited 28th Jul '16 6:28:47 PM by WillKeaton

smokeycut Since: Mar, 2013
#36353: Jul 28th 2016 at 6:29:09 PM

Well, the crew has been pretty vocal that Jasper is a complex character. Her wearing a flower that symbolizes love and friendship in the comic con poster (and being the only character with that flower), plus this series of tweets points towards there being a lot we don't know about Jasper yet.

darkabomination Since: Mar, 2012
#36354: Jul 28th 2016 at 6:29:19 PM

That could be said of pretty much anyone. Even though the cast aren't big names in va work, they all put in a ton of effort.

These last two episodes have hit me pretty hard in some very, very real places.

Doesn't help I saw them both back to back.

thatother1dude from Land of the Ill, Annoyin' Since: Jan, 2001
#36355: Jul 28th 2016 at 6:31:07 PM

In other news, based on her Twitter activity, it looks like Lapis told Peridot what happened.
I look forward to her future posts containing (more) sudden bursts of paranoia.

edited 28th Jul '16 6:32:33 PM by thatother1dude

dmysta3000 (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#36356: Jul 28th 2016 at 6:32:07 PM

[up][up]Well at least tomorrow's episode looks like its gonna be one last Breather Episode

edited 28th Jul '16 6:32:27 PM by dmysta3000

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diyedas Since: Feb, 2010
#36357: Jul 28th 2016 at 6:34:35 PM

Peridot has a twitter account? 8D

thatother1dude from Land of the Ill, Annoyin' Since: Jan, 2001
#36358: Jul 28th 2016 at 6:37:55 PM

Peridot has a twitter account? 8D
Yes. It updates within about three hours of most new episode premiers.

So far seems to update for episodes where Keep Beach City Weird doesn't. Speaking of which (read the tags).

xanderiskander Since: Mar, 2012
#36359: Jul 28th 2016 at 6:38:03 PM

[up][up] https://twitter.com/PERIDOT5XG. It's run by Lauren Zuke. One of the story board artists.

edited 28th Jul '16 6:38:21 PM by xanderiskander

diyedas Since: Feb, 2010
#36360: Jul 28th 2016 at 6:45:47 PM

Okay so that was the right one, I did a search and that one seemed most in character and consistent. It's hilarious. Peridot is the best. XDD

"IT'S ON THE HOUSE. NO IT'S NOT."

"IT'S IN MY HANDS."

edited 28th Jul '16 6:46:57 PM by diyedas

DeathsApprentice The Ultimate Lifeform from The Ark Since: Aug, 2011 Relationship Status: Is that a kind of food?
The Ultimate Lifeform
#36361: Jul 28th 2016 at 6:53:41 PM

@diyedas: ...she voices Allura? Holy shit, she has impressive range!

When we're done, there won't be anything left.
diyedas Since: Feb, 2010
#36362: Jul 28th 2016 at 6:58:01 PM

[up]Yeah, I just looked that up and I was as surprised as you are. Allura and Jasper are two totally different kind of characters, with vastly different voices.

thatother1dude from Land of the Ill, Annoyin' Since: Jan, 2001
#36363: Jul 28th 2016 at 7:03:54 PM

I noticed the storyboard artist credits for this episode were a bit strange. There was Hilary Florido, but not Lauren Zuke, when those two have been partners since "Historical Friction". Also Kat Morris had her first storyboard artist credit since "Bubble Buddies", way back in season one, after which she became a Storyboard Revisionist (and more recently Supervising Director).

I'm thinking Morris and Johnston's promotions to Supervising Director lead to them doing storyboards for the next couple episodes—sort of like how a few of the first couple episodes were boarded by Ian Jones-Quartey.

A_dude Nominal guy Since: Aug, 2015 Relationship Status: Waiting for you *wink*
Nominal guy
#36364: Jul 28th 2016 at 7:18:25 PM

I'm thinking Morris and Johnston's promotions to Supervising Director lead to them doing storyboards for the next couple episodes—sort of like how a few of the first couple episodes were boarded by Ian Jones-Quartey.

Except that Johnston and Morris have been credited as supervising directors dating back to the production block beginning with Peridot's proper face-turn. Given how you've written in the past about the length of time needed to board and complete a quadruple of episodes, this is either faulty logic or they were always supervising directors and only got credited beginning with those episodes.

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galaxydreams RULER Since: Jul, 2016 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
RULER
#36365: Jul 28th 2016 at 7:23:29 PM

Very heavy episode with a strong message, cant really say much because its not something I can relate to but it was very nice seeing this addressed, and seeing this on a kids show is amazing.Things are heating up tumblr rn as well, again is a touchy subject.

edited 28th Jul '16 7:24:41 PM by galaxydreams

BlueBlaze64 The Watcher on the Tower from Empire City Since: Sep, 2012 Relationship Status: I'm just a poor boy, nobody loves me
The Watcher on the Tower
#36366: Jul 28th 2016 at 7:24:12 PM

On the subject of Jasper, I've brought up before that I thought she may become the Manipulative Bastard type, after realizing that fighting fair won't necessarily work out well for her.

However, with her recent power obsession she showed in this episode, she might just become the Ineffectual Sympathetic Villain (after a decent arc, considering this episode's events). She still wants to beat the Crystal Gems, but just gets more and more simplistic with her approach, eventually devolving into her charging at the them with no plan. And it's only after getting kicked to the curb so many times that she realizes that raw power isn't everything, and starts to learn from them.

Or maybe she just becomes so power-hungry, that she comes crawling back to the Crystal Gems just to surrender in the faint hopes that one or more of them will fuse with her. Steven tells her about how fusion isn't just for power, yadda yadda yadda, then Jasper joins the Crystal Gems.

"The cruelest thing you can do to an artist is tell them their work is flawless when it isn't." -Ben "Yahtzee" Croshaw
SonOfSharknado Love is Love is Love Since: Oct, 2013 Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
Love is Love is Love
#36367: Jul 28th 2016 at 7:25:46 PM

Literally every villain to appear for more than a single episode becomes ineffectually sympathetic. Exhibits A through Z: Peridot.

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AdricDePsycho Rock on, Gold Dust Woman from Never Going Back Again Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
Rock on, Gold Dust Woman
#36368: Jul 28th 2016 at 7:27:12 PM

Honestly, it'd be pretty amusing to see Jasper become an villain like that. It'd be pretty massive karma.

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thatother1dude from Land of the Ill, Annoyin' Since: Jan, 2001
#36369: Jul 28th 2016 at 7:28:55 PM

Except that Johnston and Morris have been credited as supervising directors dating back to the production block beginning with Peridot's proper face-turn.
Yes, but that doesn't mean they had the position during initial storyboarding for that episode. Hence Johnston's comment that "Mr. Greg" was his last episode as a "regular" storyboard artist despite being Supervising Director for that episode and several before it.

hcobb Since: Jan, 2001
#36370: Jul 28th 2016 at 7:32:09 PM

wild mass guess Malachite's parts get a sense of where the other part is whenever Steven is dreaming to provide the hook-up.

KarkatTheDalek Not as angry as the name would suggest. from Somwhere in Time/Space Since: Mar, 2012 Relationship Status: You're a beautiful woman, probably
Not as angry as the name would suggest.
#36371: Jul 28th 2016 at 7:36:06 PM

Learning that raw power isn't everything definitely strikes me as a good arc for Jasper.

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ThePest179 Since: Jul, 2015
#36372: Jul 28th 2016 at 7:38:51 PM

I figure that no matter what, Jasper will eventually join the Crystal Gems (or at least make a "truce" of some kind). She can't go back to Homeworld - they're gonna want a good explanation of what went wrong on Earth. And given how poorly the Diamond are shown to treat their subjects, it better be a good explanation.

thatother1dude from Land of the Ill, Annoyin' Since: Jan, 2001
#36373: Jul 28th 2016 at 7:43:45 PM

Or she just fights with no future plan but becoming Malachite until she dies/is bubbled.

edited 28th Jul '16 7:43:59 PM by thatother1dude

dmysta3000 (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#36374: Jul 28th 2016 at 7:50:11 PM

I Imagine the she will only ever join the gems if it was a I Fight for the Strongest Side! type deal

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xanderiskander Since: Mar, 2012
#36375: Jul 28th 2016 at 7:51:41 PM

If that were the case she'd never join, because homeworld is undoubtedly the stronger side at the moment if they decided to get serious.


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