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randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Ghost '11
#36201: Jul 28th 2016 at 1:15:33 AM

You?

Siblings?

edited 28th Jul '16 1:16:17 AM by randomness4

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Cailleach Studious Girl from Purgatory Since: Sep, 2015 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
Studious Girl
#36202: Jul 28th 2016 at 1:26:01 AM

It's almost 4:30 AM here and I am very awake.

My over-sensitive heart takes fictional stories too hard. This is nothing new..

randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Ghost '11
#36203: Jul 28th 2016 at 1:39:24 AM

Understood, those heartstrings are being played like a fiddle by "Steven Universe".

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Malco from the Gungeon Since: Oct, 2015
#36204: Jul 28th 2016 at 1:46:13 AM

I'm only at Frybo, guys! Don't mind me! I'll catch up eventualyyyyy...

edited 28th Jul '16 1:46:24 AM by Malco

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Ruise Nyanpasu~ from your subconscious Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: It's not my fault I'm not popular!
Nyanpasu~
#36205: Jul 28th 2016 at 2:17:18 AM

[up]Don't sleep, watch SU instead.

4:30 AM isn't SUPER late for me...but insomnia is rough, especially feels-related insomnia.

Loves feel-good animation a whole lot.
Austin Since: Jan, 2001
#36206: Jul 28th 2016 at 6:15:51 AM

It's interesting that Centipeedle was on the Diamond's side, but her description of events doesn't give the impression that she was in any way a bad person. She was a colonist who built a city and, when war broke out, chose to fight with her friends for what she built amid fear and panic and destruction.

So far, I'm getting the impression that it's mostly the Diamonds who are evil, and the rest of the Gems are just taught to always obey them without question. Looking at Peridot's character development and how even our beloved Crystal Gems struggle to relate to humans, it makes me think that many Gems have a narrow perception, and it's difficult for them to adapt to new ways of thinking. Jasper clearly loves what she does, but I could see most Gems as just doing what's expected of them, and rarely questioning if what they're doing is wrong.

I wonder how many corrupted Gems are still wandering around. Correct me if I'm wrong, but aside from the ones that wandered out of the Kindergarten, I don't think we've had the Gems dealing with a random monster attack in like, ever.

randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Ghost '11
#36207: Jul 28th 2016 at 6:19:42 AM

Those are fusion mutants...not corrupted gems.

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Austin Since: Jan, 2001
#36208: Jul 28th 2016 at 6:38:45 AM

Well, I was speaking about roaming monsters in general, but yes.

Cailleach Studious Girl from Purgatory Since: Sep, 2015 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
Studious Girl
#36209: Jul 28th 2016 at 6:55:24 AM

I just can't stop thinking about how Rose felt about all this. She was the leader of the rebellion. From how fast the weapon seemed to work, she probably only had a few seconds to react, shielding everyone in the vicinity including herself. So she didn't really have a choice. But from a completely objective standpoint.. I don't know how it works on Homeworld, but on Earth a leader saving themselves instead of their people is the epitome of a jerk move. Obviously she didn't have a choice, but she had plenty of time to look back on that through a lens of extreme guilt

Not to mention that she caused the Rebellion in the first place. She wasn't in the wrong for rebelling (seemingly) but if she never started the Rebellion this wouldn't have happened. She's in a way responsible for all this. The destruction of almost her entire army, with some Homeworld soldiers thrown in. And she survived.

She's not to blame for any of this of course (Probably) That was the Diamonds' fault. But can you imagine the survivor's guilt

randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Ghost '11
#36210: Jul 28th 2016 at 7:03:10 AM

"Rose": That's a good thing.

With no hesitation. She probably did felt very bad about it, but the positives were worth it...Earth survived. As well as cross-bred child was born as a result.

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thatother1dude from Land of the Ill, Annoyin' Since: Jan, 2001
#36211: Jul 28th 2016 at 7:14:40 AM

a leader saving themselves instead of their people is the epitome of a jerk move
She didn't save herself "instead of" anyone else. There was unlikely to have been an opportunity for a Heroic Sacrifice that she turned down. Rose just saved as many as she could with her shield, which just happened to make her own life the easiest to protect.

Cailleach Studious Girl from Purgatory Since: Sep, 2015 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
Studious Girl
#36212: Jul 28th 2016 at 7:17:41 AM

[up] Yes, I know. That statement was prefaced with "from a completely objective viewpoint" Obviously she didn't have a choice. But 6,000 years gives a lot of time for someone to think about "what if" questions, no matter how unrealistic. That's how guilt works. It's not logical .

PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out.
#36213: Jul 28th 2016 at 10:01:25 AM

Anyone know enough about geology to confirm whether or not certain frequencies can do invisible damage to the structural integrity of crystals?

xanderiskander Since: Mar, 2012
#36214: Jul 28th 2016 at 11:03:26 AM

It's probably more comparable to computer data being corrupted by magnets. In this case space magnets, for space rocks. Their gems might even be advanced computers, basically.

Sapphire's future vision in particular could make her like a very advanced quantum computer that can visualize all possible universes.

Also not unusual the creators of the gems would have a fail safe option if their creations go rogue.

edited 28th Jul '16 11:05:12 AM by xanderiskander

BlueBlaze64 The Watcher on the Tower from Empire City Since: Sep, 2012 Relationship Status: I'm just a poor boy, nobody loves me
The Watcher on the Tower
#36215: Jul 28th 2016 at 11:12:43 AM

Did some searching, and found something about resonant frequency. Basically, for every object, there is a frequency at which the object will produce the maximum amount of vibration. It's the same principle that can make a wine glass break with the right kind of sound. It's only at the right frequency that it will vibrate enough to the point that it will break.

So, theoretically, there is a frequency at which a Gem would oscillate to the point where it may suffer internal damage. Maybe the Diamonds were able to find out what this frequency is, and kept it as a secret "last resort" weapon. Maybe they thought the frequency would be enough to shatter the Gems it hit, but it wasn't.

"The cruelest thing you can do to an artist is tell them their work is flawless when it isn't." -Ben "Yahtzee" Croshaw
xanderiskander Since: Mar, 2012
#36216: Jul 28th 2016 at 11:36:48 AM

From what we can tell though it's not damaging their gems specifically, because it didn't affect gems like Lapis who were placed in objects. Well, at least not physically. It seems to only have affected gems who were formed at the time.

I don't think they're going to do a big explanation for this to be honest. This isn't the type of show to do word dumps. They'll say what it's limits are, and what it does, but no more than that.

edited 28th Jul '16 11:44:02 AM by xanderiskander

thatother1dude from Land of the Ill, Annoyin' Since: Jan, 2001
#36217: Jul 28th 2016 at 11:46:09 AM

[up][up]Vibrating a system at resonant frequency really hard just makes it break.

This further lowered the chances of tonight's episode being all lighthearted.

Austin Since: Jan, 2001
#36218: Jul 28th 2016 at 12:19:45 PM

So I've decided to try rewatching the whole series from the beginning. It's been a long time since I sat down and really watched most episodes, so it's long overdue. It'll be fun to pick up all the bits of foreshadowing, and hopefully I'll notice something that hasn't been revealed yet. If nothing else, it sounds like some heavy stuff is coming, so it'll be good to refresh my memory.

Notes about Gem Glow.

1) Centipeetles were the first Gem monster we saw. 2) Pearl is the one who first refers to them by name. 3) I had forgotten this, but Centipeetles create spawn that don't have Gems, and the original is referred to as a "mother". They killed Centi's babies, man. :(

galaxydreams RULER Since: Jul, 2016 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
RULER
#36220: Jul 28th 2016 at 12:31:24 PM

This episode was very emotional. Poor Centi, the fact that her crew waited for her was beautiful. Homeworld was trying to corrupt the gems that were in the rebellion not their own army because that would be stupid, notice that Centi got orders to retreat she just never made it. I remember Greg saying that when it all happened Rose could only save a few of her friends and that if it wasnt for her shield he wouldnt know what would had happened then, so everything was very sudden, probably because they were losing pretty bad to retort to such an horrible method and wanting to do it that fast that some crews couldnt even made it. The gems use sound related things all the time, Centi was refering to what happened like a song so corrupted gems can maybe go back to normal with a song as well? All I know is that Patti Lupone is listed in the credits of an upcoming episode, can you imagine YD using a song agaisnt the C Gs?

edited 28th Jul '16 12:36:02 PM by galaxydreams

PhiSat Planeswalker from Everywhere and Nowhere Since: Jan, 2011
Planeswalker
#36221: Jul 28th 2016 at 12:35:13 PM

[up]It sure sounded like they weren't given a whole lot of time to retreat though, with Lapis remembering a mad dash for the exit and now Centepeedle's memories of the same kind of crazy mad dash to leave.

I'm almost wondering why it was such a big rush.

Oissu!
galaxydreams RULER Since: Jul, 2016 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
RULER
#36222: Jul 28th 2016 at 12:39:52 PM

[up] maybe they were losing really bad? Peridot said that there were a lack of resources so maybe they lost a lot in the rebellion and couldnt risk losing more. It was indeed very fast so something must had happened.

edited 28th Jul '16 12:40:39 PM by galaxydreams

Ruise Nyanpasu~ from your subconscious Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: It's not my fault I'm not popular!
Nyanpasu~
#36223: Jul 28th 2016 at 12:43:26 PM

Oh snap we're probably gonna see at least Yellow Diamond before the end of the season/steven nuke...and we still have yet to meet White Diamond.

Loves feel-good animation a whole lot.
Austin Since: Jan, 2001
#36224: Jul 28th 2016 at 12:43:29 PM

I've wondered what Rose had to do to not only make the Homeworld retreat, but apparently lose the location of Earth. Since they wasted no time in coming back when Lapis arrived, I think it's safe to say they lost track of it somehow.

Cailleach Studious Girl from Purgatory Since: Sep, 2015 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
Studious Girl
#36225: Jul 28th 2016 at 12:51:22 PM

I think we must consider the possibility that the corrupter is one of the Diamonds' gem weapon. The way Pearl says "damage from the Diamonds" leads me to think that this is something only the Diamonds can do, as opposed to a machine built by Homeworld that any (qualified) gem can operate, or else she could have just said "damage from Homeworld." The Diamonds being that freaking powerful without the need for any sort of technology would certainly deter dissent from their subjects.

I'm still for Patti LuPone's booming voice in the distance being the cause of corruption. That would be so badass


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