I don't think they really interacted with humans until steady civilizations were built.
Rules of the Internet 45. Rule 45 is a lie. Check out my art if you notice.It's interesting that Centipeedle was on the Diamond's side, but her description of events doesn't give the impression that she was in any way a bad person. She was a colonist who built a city and, when war broke out, chose to fight with her friends for what she built amid fear and panic and destruction.
It gives off a good "The Empire's citizens are people too" vibe that's rare in series like this (last show I remember to really do it is ATLA, and even then only in the last season or so).
edited 27th Jul '16 7:28:48 PM by KnownUnknown
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They kinda did it in one episode of Book 2...but not completely.
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Actually, I think they were doing it ever since Book 1, with Fire Sage Shyu. Hell, ever before than that, Zuko and Iroh were given considerably more depth than your standard villains.
edited 27th Jul '16 7:36:48 PM by KarkatTheDalek
Oh God! Natural light!That was my absolute favorite thing about ATLA (and there were so many things I loved about that show) And it's the most realistic way to portray it. Always Chaotic Evil doesn't exist in real life and most people on the "bad" side of the war are just average people who happen to be on the "bad" side because they live in a certain country or have different ideals that aren't necessarily pure evil
Them being anti-villains or having sympathetic personalities isn't really the same thing. It's difficult to explain.
Like, the best way of putting it in this series before Centipeedle is Peridot, and how she's a technician. Despite being set up at first as a big villain and being an actual antagonist for a while, ultimately she's literally just a mechanic that ended up in the middle of a crazy situation and never really had to think about what she was doing beforehand, and her character development emphasizes this. It's why "go to Earth they said, it'll be easy they said," is one of my favorite of her lines - it gave her an "average joe" quality that instantly changed the way I thought about her. Lapis would also be a good example, except she wasn't part of the army at all (at least, apparently).
But, say, if Jasper was revealed to have a deeply sympathetic story and a fleshed out personality that gives new angles to why she does what she does, she still wouldn't be an example of what Centipeedle is.
Avatar didn't really show the people of the Fire Nation, even the military folks, as being normal people with normal lives for a while, until the show had gone on for a while and we slowly started seeing it more and more until it was happening all the time (the earliest example I can think of is Mai's family, and how we see them as a fractured family in addition to being bunch of colonialists, but at the time it was atypical): with even the war stuff like Ember Island Players being "how would a regular person perceive the war from the Fire Nation perspective."
edited 27th Jul '16 7:53:00 PM by KnownUnknown
It's kind of like how recent Transformers media (mostly the comics) have re-imagined the Decepticons as a group of blue-collar rebels fighting against the corrupt Autobot government (at least, that's how they started out). They just politely request that you ignore the strangeness of a rebel group calling itself the "Decepticons".
De Romanīs, lingua Latina gloriosa non fuī.I want to make an edit but, I dunno.
Do you think that the partially healed centipeetle deserve to being classified as Ugly Cute in the YMMV page of Steven Universe?
edited 27th Jul '16 8:25:07 PM by ClownToy
Now why would that be related?
Rules of the Internet 45. Rule 45 is a lie. Check out my art if you notice.I think if it's a Take That! it's aimed at the largely homophobic Russian government considering how much the show is a celebration of LGBTQ themes.
But it's more likely to look impressive but not invoke too much Fridge Horror. Sibera, as noted is largely unpopulated.
The Crystal Caverns A bird's gotta sing.One of the things I find the most unsettling about the corruption weapon is how beautiful it looks. The light we saw in Same Old World was stunning. The spinning star surrounded by vibrant colors of light, that turned gems into hideous monsters. Something that horrifying shouldn't be beautiful. It makes me uncomfortable.
Beautiful, yet horrifying.
An appropriate aesthetic for the Diamonds, I think.
Oh God! Natural light!Do ya'll think the corruption process was all "Quick n' Sudden" or (Slow and Dragged out)?
How do ya think the CGs felt in the moment, when all their friends and...not friends started turning into monsters for reasons they might not have known and seemingly being unable to reverse the effect?
Rules of the Internet 45. Rule 45 is a lie. Check out my art if you notice.Now I feel really guilty for rooting against the gem monsters back in season one
The Tragic Monster trope has always really upset me. Someone goes through something so unbearably tragic that it turns them into a monster, and to add insult to injury they're treated like a grotesque, evil mutant for the good guys to heroically defeat.
Naaahh, we already have homeworld for root against.
Thought even then, homeworld averts the Always Chaotic Evil.
I would like to see a gem (beside the Diamonds) who is actually evil (Freudian Excuse or not, the gem must be undeniably evil.)
edited 27th Jul '16 9:47:10 PM by ClownToy
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Well, the fact that Rose apparently saved the few she could with her shield implies that the threat was recognized immediately. Now, it could have easily been a gradual thing anyway, but I will the that the visual of who knows how many Gems horrifically mutating before their eyes is...disturbing.
edited 27th Jul '16 9:48:26 PM by KarkatTheDalek
Oh God! Natural light!We didn't have HW to root against back in Season 1...but I wasn't aware we were rooting against those Monsters of the week back then. They were pretty mindless.
It was a screen nuke...the threat was that, but I mean that they didn't know exactly what it did.
edited 27th Jul '16 9:51:01 PM by randomness4
Rules of the Internet 45. Rule 45 is a lie. Check out my art if you notice.Not to mention the fact that the gems are horribly mentally unstable once they get corrupted and it seems that the isolation that those gems had to endure hasn't being kind.
Centipeetle was lucky for having Steven as a friend, but most of the other monsters where just plain defeated without any good bonding with the rest of the characters.
edited 27th Jul '16 9:51:33 PM by ClownToy
An interesting analysis of the episode
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In particular, Centi is theorized to be this gem
. A lot of us seem to think that she's Jade, but as noted here, many people mistake this one for jade...
edited 27th Jul '16 11:36:54 PM by KarkatTheDalek
Oh God! Natural light!

Given that some writing systems have letters for sounds, some have letters for syllables, and some have letters/characters for entire morphemes, probably not.
De Romanīs, lingua Latina gloriosa non fuī.