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randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Ghost '11
#35676: Jul 24th 2016 at 7:10:53 PM

It didn't seem harsh at all, you just be posting the truth.

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AdricDePsycho Rock on, Gold Dust Woman from Never Going Back Again Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
Rock on, Gold Dust Woman
#35677: Jul 24th 2016 at 7:11:09 PM

Sophia, chill.

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unknowing from somewhere.. Since: Mar, 2014
#35678: Jul 24th 2016 at 7:33:42 PM

Well, I finish New lars and ...I dont like it that much, while I get he is jerk, having someone enter your mind and liking him over you feel.....awfull, or the face Steve feeling bad about it feel hollow as he didnt face anything wrong for is action(in fact, I found weird the gem where in the temple, they just asume he was really sleepy?) and I feel Lars forgave Steven to easy

On the other hand is show that Sadie really like Lars personality to extended, as he love horror movie and in a way his grumpy personality, is kind of a middle ground between improving and being yourself(to aseop that usually run againt each other)

But overall...I didnt like Steven in this episode

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Ninjaxenomorph The best and the worst. from Texas, Texas, Texas Since: Jun, 2009 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
The best and the worst.
#35679: Jul 24th 2016 at 7:39:10 PM

[up] That actually sums up my reactions to the episode. Lars being a jerk we're used to, he's Lars. But Steven felt like a HUGE step back.

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randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Ghost '11
#35680: Jul 24th 2016 at 7:42:10 PM

A step back to "Barn Mates"? That's not very far.

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Ninjaxenomorph The best and the worst. from Texas, Texas, Texas Since: Jun, 2009 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
The best and the worst.
#35681: Jul 24th 2016 at 7:49:24 PM

A step back to Cheeseburger Backpack.

edited 24th Jul '16 7:49:32 PM by Ninjaxenomorph

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randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Ghost '11
#35683: Jul 24th 2016 at 7:55:36 PM

"Bubble Buddies" is more accurate...where his naivety towards their emotions is first shown.

Or "Coach Steven" where he first suggested the marriage thing.

edited 24th Jul '16 7:56:59 PM by randomness4

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Ninjaxenomorph The best and the worst. from Texas, Texas, Texas Since: Jun, 2009 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
The best and the worst.
#35684: Jul 24th 2016 at 7:57:45 PM

He just felt... immeasurably immature throughout the entire thing.

Also, KBCW book. It's gonna be a thing.

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FawfulCrump Since: Dec, 2010
#35685: Jul 24th 2016 at 8:05:58 PM

...I don't know if I can handle an entire book of Ronaldo.

randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Ghost '11
#35686: Jul 24th 2016 at 8:08:15 PM

Reading books is too hard, it seems interesting enough though.

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thatother1dude from Land of the Ill, Annoyin' Since: Jan, 2001
#35687: Jul 24th 2016 at 8:12:20 PM

...I don't know if I can handle an entire book of Ronaldo.
It's $8, probably gonna be like 30-60 text-light pages, but with a bunch of illustrations. Like Guide to the Crystal Gems.

thebandragoness Since: Feb, 2016
#35688: Jul 24th 2016 at 8:28:43 PM

Oh my God, that trans Lars theory is so fucking stupid. If the ridiculously slim possibility that it is indeed what the writers meant to imply about him turned out to actually be true, I'd be pissed. The show isn't nearly that subtle when it comes to the same-sex romance, so why does the transgender character have to be hidden behind a veil of obnoxiously obtuse and cryptic hints? "Lars tries too hard to seem manly THEREFORE HE MUST BE TRANS THIS IS CANON NOW."

I mean, c'mon, the reason he tore up Ronaldo's picture was obviously supposed to be that he was embarrassed at being smacked by the board and looking foolish. His physical appearance had nothing to do with it. And the post makes a big deal about him not growing stubble when he was stuck on the island, but he also didn't grow hair on his arm or legs, where it grows on people regardless of gender. It was just an art style thing. This show's art isn't 100% realistically detailed. (There's also the problem that if Lars was indeed meant to be sporting a pair of tiny female breasts when he's shirtless, the show's staff would probably get in trouble or something if they ever officially confirmed it.)

Look, I'd be thrilled to see a transgender character in Steven Universe, but I'd hope the writers would at least have the decency to, if they're not allowed to outright say it in the show, at least make it apparent to savvy viewers in some clear, unambiguous way. I don't know, put some hormone pill bottles in his bedroom. Have there be some girl clothes still hanging in his closet. Have a small picture on the wall of his house that shows Lars's parents posing with a little girl in a dress who looks suspiciously like a female Lars. (Of course, trans people generally don't like having pictures of their pre-transition selves lying around, but that doesn't stop my mom from doing it...)

And besides, if the show was going to have a transgender character, why Lars? Lars is an asshole. What kind of message is that supposed to be sending? "Being transgender will turn you into an angry socially awkward wreck." Yeah, wow, real progressive. In fact, now that I think about it, the fact that Lars's status as an angry socially awkward wreck is being used as the main "evidence" that he's trans is what pisses me off more than anything. Hey, here's a crazy idea, why don't we have a transgender character who's actually HAPPY AND WELL-ADJUSTED? CRAZY, I KNOW, BECAUSE ACCORDING TO THE MASS MEDIA, WE'RE AS RARE AS FUCKING UNICORNS.

God, I fucking hate it when people theorize about fictional characters being trans. You could basically Fan Wank any cisgender character ever into being transgender because it's very rare that a fictional work explicitly depicts genitalia and the like.

And honestly, it wouldn't really bother me if the show never includes an explicitly trans character. I've always found Garnet's "permanently fused" thing very relatable to my own experience with transitioning, especially with Jasper's and Paradot's initial reactions to it, plus the way fusing seems to make Garnet extremely happy and she says she wants to "stay this way forever." That's close enough for me, personally.

...Sorry if I'm ranting and rambling too much. I'm sleepy.

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smokeycut Since: Mar, 2013
#35689: Jul 24th 2016 at 8:30:40 PM

...was it really necessary to go off and flip out at a simple headcanon? Like, I specifically said I hoped people could be civil about this and not make it a giant argument. If someone wants to interpret it that way, they're perfectly within their rights. You can't tell someone how they're allowed to view a character.

randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Ghost '11
#35690: Jul 24th 2016 at 8:32:15 PM

Yes indeed, is a terrible theory.

Always grasping at non-existant straws.

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AegisP Kindhearted SSSSSNAKE Man Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
Kindhearted SSSSSNAKE Man
#35691: Jul 24th 2016 at 8:32:46 PM

Disregard.

edited 24th Jul '16 9:03:16 PM by AegisP

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LeGarcon Blowout soon fellow Stalker from Skadovsk Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: Gay for Big Boss
Blowout soon fellow Stalker
#35692: Jul 24th 2016 at 8:40:42 PM

Really? You're gonna do the whole "censorship" thing?

Oh really when?
ScottPilgrim2013 Why aren't you laughing? from Arkham Asylum Since: Jun, 2013 Relationship Status: Waiting for Prince Charming
Why aren't you laughing?
#35693: Jul 24th 2016 at 8:42:36 PM

Well so much for staying civil :|

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thebandragoness Since: Feb, 2016
#35694: Jul 24th 2016 at 8:42:59 PM

...was it really necessary to go off and flip out at a simple headcanon?

Yes, because as a trans person, I find it vaguely insulting.

You can't tell someone how they're allowed to view a character.

People can interpret characters however they want. I'm just saying this particular interpretation pisses me off.

I have always liked you bandragonness, but I love you now. Im so glad someone trans trashed that theory. Trans people deserve better than LARS.

Aww, thank you! That seriously makes me feel a lot better. Nice to get some validation so I don't feel like I got all worked up over nothing.

Y'know, thinking more on it, I'd really prefer a hypothetical trans character on this show to be more like Garnet. That is, the show should emphasize how much happier they are ever since they transitioned. Steven Universe has always been a show that focuses on LGBT positivity, like Steven's crossdressing in "Sadie's Song" and, like, Garnet's entire existence.

edited 24th Jul '16 8:43:13 PM by thebandragoness

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AegisP Kindhearted SSSSSNAKE Man Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
Kindhearted SSSSSNAKE Man
#35695: Jul 24th 2016 at 8:45:08 PM

Disregard. I suck,

edited 24th Jul '16 9:02:12 PM by AegisP

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AdricDePsycho Rock on, Gold Dust Woman from Never Going Back Again Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
Rock on, Gold Dust Woman
#35696: Jul 24th 2016 at 8:45:47 PM

Apology not accepted.

edited 24th Jul '16 8:48:25 PM by AdricDePsycho

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smokeycut Since: Mar, 2013
#35697: Jul 24th 2016 at 8:47:07 PM

And, as a trans person, seeing people headcanon characters they like as trans makes me happy.

You said you see a trans analogue in Garnet, and this person sees the same thing with Lars. What makes your view of it somehow more acceptable than theirs?

Trans people can be nice, and we can be dicks. Same goes for everyone else. Lars isn't the most pleasant person, but he's not some walking piece of garbage either.

randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Ghost '11
#35698: Jul 24th 2016 at 8:47:23 PM

[up][up]Dang, that's harsh.

edited 24th Jul '16 8:47:42 PM by randomness4

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AdricDePsycho Rock on, Gold Dust Woman from Never Going Back Again Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
Rock on, Gold Dust Woman
#35699: Jul 24th 2016 at 8:47:44 PM

Look, let's just agree to disagree and not blow up about this, please.

[up]

I'd meant it as a joke, probably should edit that to have Joking Mode in it.

edited 24th Jul '16 8:48:12 PM by AdricDePsycho

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ScottPilgrim2013 Why aren't you laughing? from Arkham Asylum Since: Jun, 2013 Relationship Status: Waiting for Prince Charming
Why aren't you laughing?
#35700: Jul 24th 2016 at 8:48:20 PM

Yeah, can we please keep things civil? I'd prefer if we didn't get the mods' attention.

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