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thebandragoness Since: Feb, 2016
#34251: Jul 7th 2016 at 6:46:33 AM

The problem is, if everybody on the planet had access to immortality, overpopulation would skyrocket. And if it's not "true" immortality but merely a way to prevent aging or something, then a whole lot of people would end up dying from starvation and/or wars breaking out over resources.

If it was "true" immortality and nothing you could do could possibly cause you to die, that'd lead to the issue of people living in severe pain or being comatose forever, plus the planet would get even more overcrowded. Immortality would really only work if we had access to space travel and terraforming technology. And even then there'd still be risks like your spaceship breaking down in the middle of space and you ending up trapped in an empty void of nothingness for all eternity.

There's also the fact that by refusing to ever die, you're dismissing the possibility that your consciousness can persist in some different form after death, either from one of the many human religions happening to be true or partially true, or from it turning out that we all live in The Matrix or something. You never know.

edited 7th Jul '16 6:49:32 AM by thebandragoness

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higurashimerlin Since: Aug, 2012
#34252: Jul 7th 2016 at 7:15:33 AM

If immortality has a problem then you work at fixing it. If everyone were immortal from the beginning, no one would suggest solving those problems by making people able to die.

When life gives you lemons, burn life's house down with the lemons.
thebandragoness Since: Feb, 2016
#34253: Jul 7th 2016 at 7:20:51 AM

[up]I mean, if you're talking about a fantasy world where nobody dies, then yeah, I'm sure that society could balance things out perfectly to make it work. I just seriously doubt any society resembling our own that suddenly discovers immortality would manage that well.

I've got Frozen, Spectacular Spider-Man, Crash, Spyro, and Paper Mario fanfics.
Heatth (X-Troper) Relationship Status: In Spades with myself
#34254: Jul 7th 2016 at 7:28:56 AM

Quick warning: A massive spoiler preview just dropped. As I understand, these are not leaks, just previews from several episodes down the line. But one that was just released have a major thing on them. If you don't like spoilers, be aware.

edited 7th Jul '16 7:31:51 AM by Heatth

TruthHurts22 You can't handle the me Since: Mar, 2013 Relationship Status: Faithful to 2D
You can't handle the me
#34255: Jul 7th 2016 at 7:55:10 AM

Is it true that what's coming up isn't a bomb, but like, an actual schedule for the rest of summer? Or is it just a week-long bomb?

DeathsApprentice The Ultimate Lifeform from The Ark Since: Aug, 2011 Relationship Status: Is that a kind of food?
The Ultimate Lifeform
#34256: Jul 7th 2016 at 8:09:06 AM

According to the promo, new episodes will be airing every weekday for the rest of the summer. Matt Burnett said that all of the season 3 would air by the end of the summer. So, it's not only a week long. ^_^

When we're done, there won't be anything left.
thatother1dude from Land of the Ill, Annoyin' Since: Jan, 2001
#34257: Jul 7th 2016 at 8:19:16 AM

The problem is, if everybody on the planet had access to immortality, overpopulation would skyrocket.
So you're just gonna ignore my math?

Human population is somewhere between 500 and 6000 times what it was twelve millenia ago. The existence of death has not prevented population growth.

Current global birth and death rates are four born and two dead per second. Even if everyone stopped dying without birth rates dropping (very unlikely given how longer lifespans corresponds to lower birth rates), net population growth has only doubled. Overpopulation would remain an issue that happens and can be dealt with slowly.

I just seriously doubt any society resembling our own that suddenly discovers immortality would manage that well.
The "Earth too crowded to live on at all" scenario would only happen if people made no change to birthdates for hundreds of years. Overpopulation may mean too little farmland to produce food, but we're nowhere close to whole planet running out of physical space for people to be located in.

If it was "true" immortality and nothing you could do could possibly cause you to die,
Absolute immortality is theoretically impossible (the universe itself is going to implode or experience heat death or something), but that doesn't mean people's lifespans should have arbitrary restrictions.

Or is it just a week-long bomb?
It's probably a four-week long bomb.

DrDougsh Since: Jan, 2001
#34258: Jul 7th 2016 at 8:36:16 AM

The overpopulation factor isn't an argument against immortality, it's an argument against reproduction. Immortality for all makes reproduction completely obsolete.

DeathsApprentice The Ultimate Lifeform from The Ark Since: Aug, 2011 Relationship Status: Is that a kind of food?
The Ultimate Lifeform
#34259: Jul 7th 2016 at 8:50:01 AM

If everyone were immortal, the only resource we'd need is land, right? We wouldn't need food or water, since we can't die from hunger or thirst. That already cuts down on a lot of resources that people usually need.

When we're done, there won't be anything left.
YamiVizziniX Since: Jan, 2015 Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
#34260: Jul 7th 2016 at 9:11:14 AM

People would likely still like to eat, though.

There is no beginning. There is no end. There is only... Hooty.
darkabomination Since: Mar, 2012
#34261: Jul 7th 2016 at 9:59:00 AM

This makes me think of Bacano where all immortality is almost complete. You can survive anything, live through anything, cannot die through mortal means. Only if another immortal touches your head, and thinks "I wish to eat" do they cease to exist. Their bodies dissolve into memories, starting from when the attack happened back to their birth until whoever devoured them now shares their identity, or if strong-willed, incorporates those experiences into their own while still keeping a sense of self.

But it makes it damn clear why it sucks. One character who betrays a mob boss, is punished and instead of being absorbed into non-existence which he's ready for, he's chained up in a concrete box, filled with water, sealed shut with more concrete, and tossed in a river.

And it gets brought up every novel for about a dozen installments, confirming that yup, the guy's still there, and still drowning in claustrophobia in a dark box that barely lets him be shoved inside.

It's still better than Mother 3's Absolutely Safe Capsule. Anyone who's played it knows what I mean.

YamiVizziniX Since: Jan, 2015 Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
#34262: Jul 7th 2016 at 10:18:21 AM

For context, the guy was a tremendous Jerkass IIRC. But all the same I wouldn't even wish that on a Complete Monster.

There is no beginning. There is no end. There is only... Hooty.
AdricDePsycho Rock on, Gold Dust Woman from Never Going Back Again Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
Rock on, Gold Dust Woman
#34263: Jul 7th 2016 at 10:19:38 AM

Guys, a huge spoiler just got revealed in an officially released clip. Go to the Spoilers and Leaks thread for more info, but I am warning you all to be wary of You Tube. This clip is 100% officially released.

Have you any dreams you'd like to sell?
DeathsApprentice The Ultimate Lifeform from The Ark Since: Aug, 2011 Relationship Status: Is that a kind of food?
The Ultimate Lifeform
#34264: Jul 7th 2016 at 10:23:48 AM

Geez, CN just loves leaking stuff.

When we're done, there won't be anything left.
AdricDePsycho Rock on, Gold Dust Woman from Never Going Back Again Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
Rock on, Gold Dust Woman
#34265: Jul 7th 2016 at 10:36:37 AM

And now we have a schedule of (most) of the Summer of Steven: http://www.regularcapital.com/2016/07/steven-universe-summer-adventures-new-episode-bomb-starts-18th-july/

It's unfinished, but it covers a good deal of it.

Have you any dreams you'd like to sell?
thatother1dude from Land of the Ill, Annoyin' Since: Jan, 2001
#34266: Jul 7th 2016 at 10:41:16 AM

[up]What is their source? It seems like they're just reposting stuff from wikia.

AdricDePsycho Rock on, Gold Dust Woman from Never Going Back Again Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
Rock on, Gold Dust Woman
#34267: Jul 7th 2016 at 10:43:55 AM

No idea, but the first four dates on there are legit.

Have you any dreams you'd like to sell?
WillKeaton from Alberta, Canada Since: Jun, 2010
#34268: Jul 7th 2016 at 10:46:43 AM

So, I don't know if it's been posted here yet or not, but here's the ad for Summer of Steven.

AdricDePsycho Rock on, Gold Dust Woman from Never Going Back Again Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
Rock on, Gold Dust Woman
#34269: Jul 7th 2016 at 10:48:10 AM

Already been posted, mate.

Have you any dreams you'd like to sell?
thatother1dude from Land of the Ill, Annoyin' Since: Jan, 2001
#34270: Jul 7th 2016 at 10:53:39 AM

the first four dates on there are legit.
The first three are on TV Guide. And how do we know the fourth is right? That Toonzone posting already had "Too Short to Ride" and "Mr. Greg" backward.

I kind of wish mods would just lock the page until July 15th.

AdricDePsycho Rock on, Gold Dust Woman from Never Going Back Again Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
Rock on, Gold Dust Woman
#34271: Jul 7th 2016 at 10:55:53 AM

I saw some post on the SU subreddit showing that The New Lars was confirmed to air on the 21st according to CN.

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thatother1dude from Land of the Ill, Annoyin' Since: Jan, 2001
#34272: Jul 7th 2016 at 11:11:50 AM

World Steven Universe reposted those two new clips from the CN Anything App. This is both a heads up and a warning, because even the thumbnail for one gives something away.

edited 7th Jul '16 11:16:29 AM by thatother1dude

FawfulCrump Since: Dec, 2010
#34273: Jul 7th 2016 at 12:08:32 PM

[up][up]After over a year since "Shirt Club", we will finally hear Matthew Moy's nasally voice again.

...Probably. I'm assuming Lars is going to speak in an episode with his name in it. >_>

AegisP Kindhearted SSSSSNAKE Man Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
Kindhearted SSSSSNAKE Man
#34274: Jul 7th 2016 at 12:18:27 PM

You havent heard nasal until you've heard Aldo Lugo's horrible Lars dub voice...which does fit Lars as he is a nuisance but still. I do love his directing (He directs the Latin American Spanish Dub)

As long as this flower is in my heart. My Strength will flow without end.
unknowing from somewhere.. Since: Mar, 2014
#34275: Jul 7th 2016 at 12:57:39 PM

[up]Yeah, Lars some waaaay more annoying in latin american dub...I think it fit him better

"My Name is Bolt, Bolt Crank and I dont care if you believe or not"

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