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thatother1dude from Land of the Ill, Annoyin' Since: Jan, 2001
#34226: Jul 6th 2016 at 5:28:04 PM

Garnet's point is that it's going to happen eventually—though as Ruise said, that doesn't totally make sense.

The implication is Black Adam-style No Immortal Inertia: fusion is preventing Connie from dying of old age but she still ages while she's fused. But why would fusion prevent one but not the other?

Because it's effectively holding her against her will in a way that's somewhat similar to Malachite?
I'm sure she did not mean Steven was forcing the fusion to continue.

edited 6th Jul '16 5:31:52 PM by thatother1dude

AdricDePsycho Rock on, Gold Dust Woman from Never Going Back Again Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
Rock on, Gold Dust Woman
#34227: Jul 6th 2016 at 5:31:06 PM

I dunno anymore, man.

Have you any dreams you'd like to sell?
randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Ghost '11
#34228: Jul 6th 2016 at 5:39:47 PM

Because Connies light ages...

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BlueBlaze64 The Watcher on the Tower from Empire City Since: Sep, 2012 Relationship Status: I'm just a poor boy, nobody loves me
The Watcher on the Tower
#34229: Jul 6th 2016 at 5:58:07 PM

It is an interesting question: If you found out you were immortal, and could fuse with a mortal, would you try to convince someone you cared about to stay fused with you to share the immortality? Is Stevonnie wrong for wanting to stay fused?

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Ruise Nyanpasu~ from your subconscious Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: It's not my fault I'm not popular!
Nyanpasu~
#34230: Jul 6th 2016 at 6:00:08 PM

If Stevonnie unfused, they themself would die.

Loves feel-good animation a whole lot.
hcobb Since: Jan, 2001
#34231: Jul 6th 2016 at 6:14:36 PM

wild mass guess Fusion immortality theory: Rose heals by substituting in warp fields for the missing tissue. This works as long as the matrix is stabilized by either a projecting gem or sufficient healthy biologic tissue. Defused Connie would have neither and so fall into dust.

AegisP Kindhearted SSSSSNAKE Man Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
Kindhearted SSSSSNAKE Man
#34232: Jul 6th 2016 at 6:25:31 PM

WHOA! It just occurred to me, what if its not Steven but rather STEVONNIE who cant let go of Connie? Like Sugilite they could be obstinate and refuse to unfuse. God. That would be so sad and terrible for everyone involved.

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randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Ghost '11
#34233: Jul 6th 2016 at 6:28:57 PM

Did that comic make it appear that Stevonnie had a set personality? That's the only way that could happen.

edited 6th Jul '16 6:29:27 PM by randomness4

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AegisP Kindhearted SSSSSNAKE Man Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
Kindhearted SSSSSNAKE Man
#34234: Jul 6th 2016 at 6:30:15 PM

Ummm...I dunno. I dunno much about Stevonnie. I havent seen much of them.

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higurashimerlin Since: Aug, 2012
#34235: Jul 6th 2016 at 8:41:09 PM

No reason for them to unfused until the key to human immortality is discover or at least the cure or old age.

When life gives you lemons, burn life's house down with the lemons.
randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Ghost '11
#34236: Jul 6th 2016 at 8:46:42 PM

Both of those things are horrible and would most likely lead to the invention of a swiss-side booth.

Also it means more food for purple people eaters.

edited 6th Jul '16 8:48:00 PM by randomness4

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supermerlin100 Since: Sep, 2011
#34237: Jul 6th 2016 at 8:54:12 PM

You might be talking about something else. In which case ignore the rest.

What would be bad about people not dying against their will?

Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#34238: Jul 6th 2016 at 9:04:38 PM

If they ever got knocked out in battle or have a disagreement or whatever, they're going to split up anyway.

Its probably better to separate intentionally then to lose Connie like that.

Is an argument I could see. Otherwise its just being sad to be sad.

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randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Ghost '11
#34239: Jul 6th 2016 at 9:20:05 PM

[up][up]There's nothing bad about that. All life must end at some point if the world is to be a better place to live.

edited 6th Jul '16 9:22:16 PM by randomness4

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kkhohoho (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#34240: Jul 6th 2016 at 9:25:02 PM

[up]All life? Even the trees? And the plants? And the oceans? And the bacteria? And the the microbes? And the amoebas? And the...

SmartGirl333 New account is voidify Since: Nov, 2014
New account is voidify
#34241: Jul 6th 2016 at 9:35:50 PM

>oceans

water isn't alive numpnuts

And i'm pretty sure what was meant was that lives must end to make way for new lives

kkhohoho (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#34242: Jul 6th 2016 at 10:06:41 PM

[up]It's still an essential source of life, so I thought it counted. Guess not.tongue

Also; oh, good. Because for a second there, I thought it was some sort of environmentalist tripe about how we're all ruining the planet, and that the only thing we can do now is just wipe ourselves out and let the planet resume its' natural course. But I guess that wasn't the case after all. (Or at least I hope it wasn't...)

edited 6th Jul '16 10:09:40 PM by kkhohoho

Ruise Nyanpasu~ from your subconscious Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: It's not my fault I'm not popular!
Nyanpasu~
#34243: Jul 6th 2016 at 10:09:53 PM

Not really. What needs to happen is that cephalopods need to live longer in order to have more time to learn and build civilizations and become the masters of the ocean. But extended life in an organic body is kind of useless. We need to become robots. Robotic squids. In space.

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randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Ghost '11
#34244: Jul 6th 2016 at 10:30:21 PM

[up][up]Even the most extreme extremist couldn't possibly form a believable argument for why plants or water could anyway at all be ruining the planet.

edited 6th Jul '16 10:31:44 PM by randomness4

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DeathsApprentice The Ultimate Lifeform from The Ark Since: Aug, 2011 Relationship Status: Is that a kind of food?
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#34245: Jul 7th 2016 at 5:03:32 AM

If they ever got knocked out in battle or have a disagreement or whatever, they're going to split up anyway. Its probably better to separate intentionally then to lose Connie like that.

Yeah, I think that's the reason why Steven and Connie can't just stay fused as Stevonnie forever. At least that way, he'll be able to let her go willingly, as opposed to after a disagreement or a battle. Especially if it's after a disagreement. It really sucks to have your last words to someone be a part of an argument.

When we're done, there won't be anything left.
darkabomination Since: Mar, 2012
#34246: Jul 7th 2016 at 5:29:11 AM

Yeah, it does sound kinda melodramatically sad. Though the idea of Stevonnie themselves not wanting to die as an individual is an interesting one, admittedly.

higurashimerlin Since: Aug, 2012
#34247: Jul 7th 2016 at 6:07:11 AM

death is bad. it doesn't exist because it is a good thing. that is just sour grapes thinking.

When life gives you lemons, burn life's house down with the lemons.
thatother1dude from Land of the Ill, Annoyin' Since: Jan, 2001
#34248: Jul 7th 2016 at 6:22:56 AM

And i'm pretty sure what was meant was that lives must end to make way for new lives
Not really, otherwise populations would never rise—and life wouldn't have come into being in the first place. There are also factors that affect overpopulation much more than longevity, mostly the age of first reproduction.

Think of two populations that start with 100 people:

  • Every individual has two kids (i.e. every couple has four kids between them) every 30 years and no one ever dies or stops reproducing. This means the population will triple every 30 years.
    • Population (x) function in years (y): x(y) = 100*3^(y/30)
    • Population after 150 years: 100*3^5 = 24,300
  • Every individual has two kids at the age of 15, then never again, and dies at the age of 60. Each generation is twice the age of the last, but only the last four generation would be around simultaneously.
    • Population function after the first sixty years: x(y) = 100*(2^[y/15] - 2^[y/15-1] - 2^[y/15-2] -2^[y/15-3])
    • Population after 150 years: 100*(2^10 - 2^9 - 2^8 -2^7) = 192,000

At least that way, he'll be able to let her go willingly, as opposed to after a disagreement or a battle.
One can come to terms with the mortality of oneself or loved ones before they actually die. That way one doesn't need to cut a healthy, thriving life hundred or even thousands of years shorter than it could otherwise (unless they wanted to for a reason better than "it will happen eventually anyway").

Austin Since: Jan, 2001
#34249: Jul 7th 2016 at 6:23:02 AM

The implication is Black Adam-style No Immortal Inertia: fusion is preventing Connie from dying of old age but she still ages while she's fused. But why would fusion prevent one but not the other?

Black Adam has his own character page, just an FYI.

DeathsApprentice The Ultimate Lifeform from The Ark Since: Aug, 2011 Relationship Status: Is that a kind of food?
The Ultimate Lifeform
#34250: Jul 7th 2016 at 6:44:32 AM

I'm surprised that they would be willing to stay fused for that long. In "Alone Together", Stevonnie eventually felt sad because, yeah, Steven and Connie were together, but they were still alone, and couldn't do things like share a donut. I guess a) they could get used to it and b) the fusion is more out of desperation to extend Connie's life, so that feeling of being "alone together" isn't as much of a concern.

I kind of wonder how okay Connie is with this in the comic. I mean, I guess she'd have to be pretty okay with it, since the fusion is still going, but it does raise an interesting question. Is it worth it if, to stay immortal, you can never really be yourself again?

When we're done, there won't be anything left.

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