http://www.dictionary.com/browse/daughter
71. a female child or person in relation to her parents. 2. any female descendant. 3. a person related as if by the ties binding daughter to parent: daughter of the church. 4. anything personified as female and considered with respect to its origin: The United States is the daughter of the 13 colonies.
Calling them mother and daughter is calling them female. It is not linguistically possible to call something a mother or daughter without calling it female. Femaleness is an inherent part of being a mother or daughter.
Because if only female terms are applicable and male terms are never applicable, that means they are female.
Irrelevant. Find a secondary definition of male that applies and that is the only way you will have a leg to stand on. The reason that some other examples of asexual reproduction aren't mentioned only in the dictionary definitions I supplied (but are mentioned in the other sources I mentioned, which you would have seen if you'd looked) is because males are capable of some of those forms of sexual reproduction, but then are only classified as males as they can produce male gametes as well. Things that are incapable of producing male gametes are always female. That is what calling them mothers and daughters means. If it were not, they'd only use "parent and offspring/infant/juvenile" and never use "mother and daughter. The fact that they do use "mother and daughter" and never use "father and son" despite''a gender neutral term existing means that yes, they are female.
Those last few pages of discussion is what happens when you try too hard to apply logic to a cartoon. A show should have some logic and fact to it, but not so much that it leads to a semantics argument in attempt to clarify something in the show.
It's a classic Watsonian versus Doylist argument. You could argue for days about the Gems' biology, or whether or not the Gems really are female or not, or how Rose created (or became) Steven, or if Steven is or isn't a girl. At the end of the day, however, the show's creators just wanted to make a show about a group of tough alien fighters that look human and female enough that kids would see them has humanoid women. And to have as its star a boy who's just very in touch with his feminine side.
You should never go deeper with a story than the creator has. I'm pretty sure Sugar herself couldn't explain the science behind the Gems. I mean, the MST3K Mantra exists for a reason.
"The cruelest thing you can do to an artist is tell them their work is flawless when it isn't." -Ben "Yahtzee" CroshawI believe it started as an argument as to whether male gems could be a thing. I think that they technically could very well exist, but for reasons that
has stated it would sort of go against the point of the show.
Though there were some (highly questionable and most definitely false) leaks that brought up the possibility of Bismuth as a gender-neutral character, which I could see as a fair compromise, seeing as a hypothetical Bismuth character wouldn't really be a gem.
Nobody wants the Crewniverse to go back on their word about Gem's gender specifics.
But in order to progress without lying, impressionable forms of a newborn gem? They take the form similar to the first moving creature they see...it just so happens to be male and as a bonus, it has a female voice.
Rules of the Internet 45. Rule 45 is a lie. Check out my art if you notice.Now which of you Stevens revealed that "Sadie" is actually Dolly from The Family Circus?
Ida know.
Not me!
edited 25th Jun '16 2:27:31 PM by hcobb
I don't see the resemblances.
Rules of the Internet 45. Rule 45 is a lie. Check out my art if you notice.Guys guys! I think I found the secret identity of the centipeetle.
Albeit, green is not mentioned among the colors for it. But Agate itself comes in nearly every color.
The Crystal Caverns A bird's gotta sing.I am torn there. On the other hand, pun, on the other hand the appropriate color.
The Crystal Caverns A bird's gotta sing.Talk about an Unconventional Learning Experience. Even the Walkers said they learned more about gemstones than they'd ever imagined by watching the show.
I mean, who knew what a peridot, sardonyx, or sugilite were before watching this series?
I knew what a peridot was vaguely (I knew it was a gemstone that could be rolled up on an RPG loot table, at least).
Me and my friend's collaborative webcomic: Forged MenPeridot is my birthstone
Haha sorry, I showed up randomly. Let me introduce myself - my name is Daft Punch, and I've been a member of these forums since early- to mid-2013, I think.
And I do love Steven Universe, though I have to watch it in secret, because my mom won't let me watch it... Come on, mom, I'm just about 17...
What do we usually discuss?
edited 26th Jun '16 10:21:40 AM by DaftPunch
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moved to Oceanstuck because this handle was starting to bother me my tumblr

Sorry. But I am genuinely ticked off at all these leaks, and I haven't even seen them. (In fact I don't know where they actually came from so I will apologize again and refrain from further comment.)
There is no beginning. There is no end. There is only... Hooty.