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randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Ghost '11
#33751: Jun 23rd 2016 at 5:53:38 PM

Ya think thas painful death? Isn't actual birth process much more painful, since she can't actually release baby.

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InAnOdderWay Since: Nov, 2013
#33752: Jun 23rd 2016 at 6:01:40 PM

I mean technically as a gem she could play around with the hipbones a bit to make the process a bit easier, but we really don't know that much about it.

randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
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#33753: Jun 23rd 2016 at 6:05:04 PM

I'm wanting to imagine stomach released baby, like some kind of alien...that'd work.

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#33754: Jun 23rd 2016 at 6:55:07 PM

So is it weird that I believe that Rose Quartz is just hibernating ? Since she "gave up her physical form (the hard-light hologram that forms her body, i think)" to conceive Steven, Garnet called Steven's gem "the Rose Quartz gem(stone)" in an early episode, Jasper actually thought Steven is Rose, and said gem is intact. I bet something traumatic, like an battle against Yellow Diamond, could reawaken her; but then Steven would lose his powers.

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randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Ghost '11
#33755: Jun 23rd 2016 at 7:06:06 PM

Stephen's Gem is the Rose Quartz gemstone...and it is the Rose Quartz gem.

He wouldn't lose his powers, he would die if the gem was removed from him.

Like an Irken soldier, the gem for Stephen is basically his pak.

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SmartGirl333 New account is voidify Since: Nov, 2014
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#33756: Jun 23rd 2016 at 7:09:46 PM

The gem's hard light makes up half his DNA.

randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Ghost '11
#33757: Jun 23rd 2016 at 7:30:57 PM

Except unlike a Pak, Stephen's gem can't revive him consciously if it's put back in.

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unknowing from somewhere.. Since: Mar, 2014
#33758: Jun 23rd 2016 at 8:35:16 PM

[up][up]does gem even have DNA?

Also I dont think Rose mind is there anymore, is like she transform in steven and allow someone else to in habit her

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#33759: Jun 23rd 2016 at 10:55:25 PM

I always imagined she just shrank until her Gem fused with his stomach and her body melded into his little baby body.

Sereg Since: Jun, 2010
#33760: Jun 24th 2016 at 2:50:24 AM

Not trying to knock you and say your wrong, but every time I look up female it is defined as the sex that creates the egg (or otherwise larger, not mobile gametes. Males produce sperm and pollen). Do you have a more indepth source where I can look into it myself? 'Cause now I'm interested.

Look up Agamogenesis. Also, you will see that in asexually reproducing organisms, the parents are referred to as "mothers" and the children as "daughters". Also, you will see that some real life species are actively acknowledged as all female, while you will never find a real life species acknowledged as all male.

Also, you can look at these:

http://www.thefreedictionary.com/female

http://www.thefreedictionary.com/male

Of course, only some of those definitions are relevant here, but

"Being the sex that gives birth or produces offspring." (emphasis added)

"(Botany) (of flowers) lacking, or having nonfunctional, stamens"

"Of or denoting the sex that produces ova or bears young."

"Male means 'relating to the sex that cannot have babies'. You can use male as an adjective to describe either people or animals."

hcobb Since: Jan, 2001
#33761: Jun 24th 2016 at 7:35:27 AM

Steven is simply the most stable permafusion that's been revealed. He's even more stable than Garnet and she usually retains her fusion even when she's been part of a larger fusion that's been disrupted.

wild mass guess Lion's corruption keeps him from getting back into the Pink Diamond fusion.

SilentColossus (Don’t ask)
#33762: Jun 24th 2016 at 8:18:00 AM

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Because those species produce an egg, such as a species of lizard. They do not need to be fertilized. Other species that are mostly female, such as some types of bees and ants, have a sex that is determined by the number of chromosomes they have. Others, such as bacteria, only take chromosomes from the one parent. I have seen "mother" and "daughter" as a manner of phrasing: I have not seen someone explicitly call them female. They are technically asexual.

Beyond that, you're picking and choosing definitions. None of those definitions explain why a computer program would have a sex, either.

edited 24th Jun '16 8:46:22 AM by SilentColossus

Sereg Since: Jun, 2010
#33763: Jun 24th 2016 at 8:46:14 AM

Because those species produce an egg, such as a species of lizard. They do not need to be fertilized.

Wrong. Bacteria and viruses do not produce eggs. They are still female and still referred to as "mothers and daughters" instead of "fathers and sons".

Other species that are mostly female, such as some types of bees and ants, have a sex that is determined by the number of chromosomes they have. Others, such as bacteria, only take chromosomes from the one parent.

I'm aware. This isn't relevant.

I have seen "mother" and "daughter" as a manner of phrasing: I have not seen someone explicitly call them female. They are technically asexual.

They are asexual. That's what makes them incapable of make and therefore female. That's why it's "mother and daughter", not "father and son".

Beyond that, you're picking and choosing definitions.

None of the others contradict me as they don't apply.

None of those definitions apply to computer programs, either.

Yes, they do. A computer program can produce children and would therefore be female, not male under the definitions posted.

SilentColossus (Don’t ask)
#33764: Jun 24th 2016 at 8:57:08 AM

Good, because I was talking about examples such as the whiptail lizard, like I said in the post. Not bacteria. And again, I haven't seen bacteria referred to as ''female". If I did, it would show that mother and daughter terminology is literal, not figurative.

I'm not saying bacteria are male. Why do you keep suggesting I'm saying that? Forget about father and son.

Edit: Yes, your linked definitions say "produce offspring" without mentioning gametes. But these are secondary definitions, buried under definitions that define female gametes. Budding and others are not mentioned.

edited 24th Jun '16 9:08:27 AM by SilentColossus

InAnOdderWay Since: Nov, 2013
#33765: Jun 24th 2016 at 6:12:49 PM

I thought we dropped the conversation, mainly because it depends on how much you value human named biology terms (attached to human gender connotations) with regards to speaking about ancient genderless space rocks.

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#33766: Jun 24th 2016 at 6:13:06 PM

Uh guys...we just had some major honkin' leaks.

Go to the leak thread if you dare.

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darkabomination Since: Mar, 2012
#33767: Jun 24th 2016 at 11:26:25 PM

On a scale from 12 second harmless leak to Malachite, how bad we talking?

randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Ghost '11
#33768: Jun 24th 2016 at 11:29:16 PM

Um...about a Jaspee sized?

Where's she falling on dat scale?

edited 24th Jun '16 11:30:10 PM by randomness4

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#33769: Jun 24th 2016 at 11:38:21 PM

Can't Europe keep anything together this week?tongue

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#33770: Jun 25th 2016 at 12:03:49 AM

On a simple scale of 1-to-10, 1 being 'a short promo that tells us nothing", 10 being 'we literally know all the plot points for the foreseeable future'.

edited 26th Jun '16 11:50:17 PM by PushoverMediaCritic

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#33771: Jun 25th 2016 at 12:28:01 AM

[up] Prolly a 9? You could easily infer some maaajor plot points from it.

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randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Ghost '11
#33772: Jun 25th 2016 at 12:37:24 AM

Infer? 2 of them bluntly say what the plot points are.

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darkabomination Since: Mar, 2012
#33773: Jun 25th 2016 at 2:33:07 AM

I swear, these only happen when there's a hiatus, which just makes the wait worse and indecisive on an individual basis, which just compounds the problem.

SU will never reach the horrors that were in GF, or being a Venture Bros/Rick and Morty fan, but it still sucks.

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