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SilentColossus (Don’t ask)
#33726: Jun 23rd 2016 at 6:21:04 AM

Should have clarified: I've heard them called that for simplicity sake, but never heard them referred to as female. I've also never heard that non-organic things are always female, either.

hcobb Since: Jan, 2001
#33727: Jun 23rd 2016 at 6:22:12 AM

wild mass guess Gem seeds used by injectors are shattered gems. All of the gems have a common ancestor gem that was broken up to create the gem lines. Fusion introduces the possibility of "sex", as is mixing types between single clone line families that were pure fission.

Sunchet Since: Oct, 2010
#33728: Jun 23rd 2016 at 7:11:18 AM

So yes, purely technically if say, my glasses gained sentience, they would be considered female.

Also, purely technically if planet would explode it wouldn't be sad because there would be no humans left and sadness is human concept.

randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Ghost '11
#33729: Jun 23rd 2016 at 7:30:26 AM

Females are the dominant life-form? My dream came true.

edited 23rd Jun '16 7:31:17 AM by randomness4

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Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#33730: Jun 23rd 2016 at 7:44:42 AM

I've known sad dogs

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Sunchet Since: Oct, 2010
#33731: Jun 23rd 2016 at 7:54:53 AM

[up] [up] The most numerous life-form counts as dominant? But that would mean...

randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Ghost '11
#33732: Jun 23rd 2016 at 7:58:36 AM

My judgement may have been rash, but I still accept it.

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Cailleach Studious Girl from Purgatory Since: Sep, 2015 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
Studious Girl
#33733: Jun 23rd 2016 at 8:13:16 AM

[up][up] The prokaryotic bacteria would like a word with you.

Meanwhile, the viruses patiently wait to be classified as alive. Then they will stage a coup and crown HTVC 01 P as king

Ogodei Fuck you, Fascist sympathizers from The front lines Since: Jan, 2011
Fuck you, Fascist sympathizers
#33734: Jun 23rd 2016 at 8:17:12 AM

Gems being nominally genderless but actually all-women reminds me of that one episode of Star Trek The Next Generation where there was supposed to be a genderless, androgynous humanoid species, but the casting department picked mannish-looking women to play all of them, which then ruined the Aesop when Riker tried to date one of them, from dealing with gender nonconformity in general to the story of one woman trying to escape forced lesbianism.

There could be some masculine force that interacts with the gems, such that the male "gems" are not really a distinct being or anything, but still interacts with them to create new gems as opposed to the fusions which are the representations of f/f bonding.

darkabomination Since: Mar, 2012
#33735: Jun 23rd 2016 at 8:28:59 AM

Steven Universe, half human, half magical parasitic alien virus.

Good thing the Gems are cute, because otherwise they'd be really freaky.

smokeycut Since: Mar, 2013
#33736: Jun 23rd 2016 at 8:56:06 AM

Going back to the previous page, @Smartgirl: If I understand your question correctly, there's the Asari from Mass Effect. All identify/present as female, despite having no set biological sex (a plot point is their ability to reproduce with anyone, regardless of sex or race or species or anything). It's still not much, but SU isn't the only series to do it.

unknowing from somewhere.. Since: Mar, 2014
#33737: Jun 23rd 2016 at 9:01:23 AM

[up][up]they are already somewhat freaky at times, and that is ramp up when dealing with homeworld

"My Name is Bolt, Bolt Crank and I dont care if you believe or not"
InAnOdderWay Since: Nov, 2013
#33738: Jun 23rd 2016 at 9:28:12 AM

And also that's talking about sex which with a conversation like this is generally irrelevant to the discussion.

That is to say, female or male biology wise, if they don't share characteristics of either human sex, or really the sex of any lifeform on Earth, then trying to identify them as either gender is a moot point. Technically this makes any successful "hard AI" attempt female, from a "biological" perspective, but in practice they're going to be gendered every which way.

And this is also assuming that A. aliens speak English and actually have words that refer to each respective gender, or B. that whatever translation used assumes "they" as the correct gender-neutral pronoun as opposed to "him" or technically "her".

If the crewniverse for whatever reason really, really wanted a male gem, it wouldn't be a matter of sex, it'd be a matter of gender.

hcobb Since: Jan, 2001
#33739: Jun 23rd 2016 at 11:28:39 AM

wild mass guess Peridot doesn't interact with the humans because she doesn't speak English. This isn't a problem for Steven because Rose is translating for him.

Sunchet Since: Oct, 2010
#33740: Jun 23rd 2016 at 11:44:25 AM

[up]Didn't know that Gems made Camp Pining Hearts.

randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Ghost '11
#33741: Jun 23rd 2016 at 11:49:21 AM

(*o*): Oh snap, that makes so much sense.

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Sereg Since: Jun, 2010
#33742: Jun 23rd 2016 at 12:00:12 PM

  • Shrug* I'm a biologist. To me, it's the only relevant thing.

darkabomination Since: Mar, 2012
#33743: Jun 23rd 2016 at 1:07:02 PM

"I don't care if you're on the yellow team Percy. We can make this work!"[lol]

SilentColossus (Don’t ask)
#33744: Jun 23rd 2016 at 1:18:28 PM

[up][up]

Not trying to knock you and say your wrong, but every time I look up female it is defined as the sex that creates the egg (or otherwise larger, not mobile gametes. Males produce sperm and pollen). Do you have a more indepth source where I can look into it myself? 'Cause now I'm interested.

edited 23rd Jun '16 1:49:41 PM by SilentColossus

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randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Ghost '11
#33746: Jun 23rd 2016 at 2:38:20 PM

Those are both interesting theories.

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RhymeBeat True colors from Eastern Standard Since: Aug, 2009 Relationship Status: In Lesbians with you
True colors
#33747: Jun 23rd 2016 at 3:47:46 PM

My issue with that is that ALL the Crystal gems have shapeshifted organ systems for extended periods of time. A deleted scene even confirmed it is shapeshifting and not regeneration that there doing (the scene where Amethyst was teaching Peridot to eat). It's mostly the digestive system but I don't see how the reproductive system should be different. Stretching is different from changing the interior of the body I imagine.

The Crystal Caverns A bird's gotta sing.
Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#33748: Jun 23rd 2016 at 4:06:55 PM

Do the Gems have digestive tracts going 24/7?

Because nine months is a long time.

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randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Ghost '11
#33749: Jun 23rd 2016 at 4:07:25 PM

[up][up]Tiger Millionaire leads me to believe that they can't hold a form for too long either, that scene with Amethyst turning back to normal wouldn't really make sense otherwise. Peridot also says something about energy consumption in Logdate 7 15 2.

[up]It'd be unnecessary for Pearl and Garnet doesn't even eat as much as Amy.

edited 23rd Jun '16 4:09:06 PM by randomness4

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InAnOdderWay Since: Nov, 2013
#33750: Jun 23rd 2016 at 5:19:04 PM

Also, as interesting as the concept of Rose dying a horrible and painful death is, the idea that Steven just has Rose's DNA doesn't make sense.

For starters, Gems are hard light beings, they have nothing to pass on but their gems.

Two, Steven has Rose's gem, the whole gem. Although this begs the question of what exactly was growing within Rose during the months leading up to Steven's birth, Steven does have the whole of Rose.


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