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unknowing from somewhere.. Since: Mar, 2014
#33451: Jun 10th 2016 at 12:05:19 AM

I just realized that since Gems aren't really female, then technically neither of them are gay. At least no more then you can say that talking computer that doesn't know What Is This Thing You Call Love? is asexual or shapeshifter can be trans.

In a techincal sense you are right, just like in a techinical sense Optimus is not male because he is space machine or how and alien civilization look a lot like romans,jews or whatever, in techincal sense they not that way but in storytelling sense are code in that way to make thing easier to the reader, for the show being aliens matter very little: the crew refer them as gay,the show treat them as gay so in short, they are gay.

But if you want to be pedant(because, why not?) you could said they are gem equivalent of gay which serve ether way, granted this open more intersting question here: lets said Steven and connie become a couple, they will fused everytime they date or feel conect to each other? they will have human made marrige or will be perma fusion like Garnet? can Steven even have kids like regular human or he will suffer the same destiny as her mother?

She said that the show becomes less about the content and more about having a message. Although, when I asked her what's wrong with simply introducing kids to the idea of a same-sex romance, she couldn't come up with an answer."

The best answer I can said is that when a show become more about the message it lose quality as the show have to bend over the message or become narmy and anvilious as many green-aseop movie or series the 90 spawn show well.

The fact this show manage to mantain good storylines while mantain a inclusive message is statement to writers hability

Edit: a pagge toper? damn.

edited 10th Jun '16 12:12:54 AM by unknowing

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Sunchet Since: Oct, 2010
#33452: Jun 10th 2016 at 12:23:45 AM

OK, good point, but if one were to find Amazon Island, they probably shouldn't explain to them what's a male trough Optimus Prime toys and Beast Wars episodes.

unknowing from somewhere.. Since: Mar, 2014
#33453: Jun 10th 2016 at 12:48:09 AM

[up]Yeah pretty much, now I doubt gem think themselves as lesbian because that is just a silly thing with the hairless monkey deem important

But the diferent between gems and human show to time to time, they way I see is like combination of the eldar(artistic,prone to superiority complex, dismisive,etc) and straw vulcan(value logic over emotion, tend to be cold in general and have tendecy of being insensitive) this color they interation a lot

In fact, I consider the main conflict in "Too many birthdays" being pretty much cultural clash that anything else(well that and Steven rushing judgement as ever)

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randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
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#33455: Jun 10th 2016 at 5:28:40 PM

Luckily for you Sapphy was just confirmed to have legs.

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RhymeBeat True colors from Eastern Standard Since: Aug, 2009 Relationship Status: In Lesbians with you
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#33456: Jun 10th 2016 at 5:37:38 PM

I used the outfit she was wearing in Hit the Diamond for reference.

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LeGarcon Blowout soon fellow Stalker from Skadovsk Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: Gay for Big Boss
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#33457: Jun 10th 2016 at 5:38:33 PM

Of course Sapphire had to have legs. Where do you think Garnet got them hips from? Cause it sure wasn't Ruby.

Oh really when?
randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
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#33458: Jun 10th 2016 at 5:41:56 PM

You mean the length?

Because Ruby's pretty thick.

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#33459: Jun 10th 2016 at 7:26:49 PM

Proof that a gem nose only works if it's shaped like Jasper's.

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SalFishFin Since: Jan, 2001
#33460: Jun 10th 2016 at 7:48:06 PM

Eh. Lapis and Pearl could have nose gems and it wouldn't look... too bad.

MightyMatilda Mr. Clueless from New Jersey, USA Since: Jan, 2015
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#33461: Jun 10th 2016 at 7:57:01 PM

I'm sure that this has been posted before, but today I found my new favorite Steven Universe video here.

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diyedas Since: Feb, 2010
#33462: Jun 10th 2016 at 7:57:36 PM

Yeah that's been posted before. It's alright.

RhymeBeat True colors from Eastern Standard Since: Aug, 2009 Relationship Status: In Lesbians with you
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#33463: Jun 10th 2016 at 8:01:14 PM

I do wonder why Pearl's mistakes often get a Never Live It Down treatment, while Amethyst's more malicious behavior gets overlooked. Don't get me wrong, I like and understand Amethyst but when she's mean she's outright cruel.

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MightyMatilda Mr. Clueless from New Jersey, USA Since: Jan, 2015
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#33464: Jun 10th 2016 at 8:02:45 PM

Is it because Amethyst doesn't hate humanity nearly so much?

I mean, that's why Pearl is one of my least favorite characters, so it's my best guess.

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randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
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#33465: Jun 10th 2016 at 8:05:16 PM

Pearl doesn't hate hewmans, she's just really condescending...because hewmans suck and that's a true fact.

Openly condescending...

edited 10th Jun '16 8:06:57 PM by randomness4

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#33466: Jun 10th 2016 at 8:06:30 PM

If I had to guess, it's because Pearl has had a lot more focus than Amethyst.

Not to say people don't hold things against Amethyst either. There's quite a few people who hate her after her actions in Maximum Capacity.

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ClownToy Since: Aug, 2015
#33467: Jun 10th 2016 at 8:13:53 PM

Face it, gems see humans with the same respect humans see cows: relatively primitive lifeforms with barely knowledge about his place in the world, just fulfilling his basic needs.

edited 10th Jun '16 8:14:13 PM by ClownToy

randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Ghost '11
#33468: Jun 10th 2016 at 8:16:27 PM

Cows?

I think you mean...[Insert "intelligent" Animal Here]

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RhymeBeat True colors from Eastern Standard Since: Aug, 2009 Relationship Status: In Lesbians with you
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#33469: Jun 10th 2016 at 8:18:15 PM

Yeah cattle's a bit much. They acknowledge humans are sentient, just by their nature far less experienced than they are.

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unknowing from somewhere.. Since: Mar, 2014
#33470: Jun 10th 2016 at 8:54:19 PM

With Pearl and Amathys is very simple: we have more episode of her being "wrong" that Amathys, Pearl episode have her learing something while Amathys usually end with her being pitty, also Amathys is look like adolecene while Pearl is see as an adult(I know it sound meanless with +7000 gems but anyway)

In fact I have the oposite opinon that the rest of the fandom: I think Pearl really need therapy and start seen her obssesion with Rose while honest, is just unhealthy and at the same time I want punch Amathys in the face for what it did to Greg, that was fucking low punch, really

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darkabomination Since: Mar, 2012
#33471: Jun 10th 2016 at 9:07:21 PM

It's a good thing Peridot turned out to be ultimately as likable and harmless as the fans kept projecting. If she'd stayed a villain or hadn't received as good an arc as she did, the dissonance might've really made her a Base Breaker. Even then it wasn't until midway through her arc that we were given proof she can change for the better.

randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Ghost '11
#33472: Jun 10th 2016 at 9:07:45 PM

I'm glad that comic made her doing it again didn't ruin any positive points for Amethyst.

You'd think she have better manipulation skills. They'd go well with her shape shifting.

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unknowing from somewhere.. Since: Mar, 2014
#33473: Jun 10th 2016 at 9:19:42 PM

about gem view of mankind, Homeworld see earth as playground and mankind as bugs, something you eradicate to make things better for you

CG have typical Elves/Vulcan view of man: Amathyst sort of like them because she is from earth,Garnet dosent really give a damn(or dosent voice her displesure by her being stoic) and Pearl is the most condesending

you could also said CG are like the typical first world actitud toward third world country, at least that is how I saw Rose behivor until being call out by Greg.

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KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#33474: Jun 10th 2016 at 9:26:23 PM

If and when we see Homeworld, I hope they don't show it as some kind of dystopia built upon oppression like people seem to be expecting it will be.

That is, Homeworld should be obviously draconian from an outside perspective, but considered perfectly fine and beneficial by everyone within it. In fact, I like the idea of it being a seemingly perfect society with everyone happy with their lot in life, until the Gems and Steven show up and start making chinks in the Homeworlders' perceptions of their world.

edited 10th Jun '16 9:27:36 PM by KnownUnknown

SilentColossus (Don’t ask)
#33475: Jun 10th 2016 at 9:26:58 PM

Pearl doesn't hate humans. From the extended theme song "we were amazed to find/your beauty and your worth." She even uses human concepts (such as knighthood) to motivate herself and train Connie.

Her condescending nature towards humans is a combination of lack of understanding, difficulty speaking towards them, and a lack of respect. You can find something wonderful and fascinating, and worthy of protection, while still not respecting it. Besides Pearl has a tendency to sound condescending towards everything.

edited 10th Jun '16 9:27:31 PM by SilentColossus


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