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TheHandle United Earth from Stockholm Since: Jan, 2012 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
United Earth
#32826: Jun 1st 2016 at 2:05:01 PM

FUCK!sadjust bugs mejust bugs mejust bugs mejust bugs me

EDIT: What a wonderful pagetopper... ♥

edited 1st Jun '16 2:05:55 PM by TheHandle

Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that.
diyedas Since: Feb, 2010
#32827: Jun 1st 2016 at 3:03:11 PM

With the exception of bullying people over art, I would say that for the most part the SU fandom is just a bit more pleasant then the Gravity Falls one is all I'm saying. It does depend on the site however.

MsAmiClassified Tired of givin' up the ghost from the fucking ocean Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
Tired of givin' up the ghost
#32828: Jun 1st 2016 at 3:11:19 PM

wow

that ponyshop is just straight up Kick the Dog material

moved to Oceanstuck because this handle was starting to bother me my tumblr
darkabomination Since: Mar, 2012
#32829: Jun 1st 2016 at 3:21:11 PM

Those first two tracks are impressive. They wouldn't be out of place on a quality ambient downtempo album. Very serene and pretty.

TheHandle United Earth from Stockholm Since: Jan, 2012 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
United Earth
#32830: Jun 1st 2016 at 3:39:40 PM

THEY NEED TO RELEASE A PROPER ALBUM!

AND IMAGE SONGS. LOTS OF THEM.

Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that.
SalFishFin Since: Jan, 2001
#32831: Jun 1st 2016 at 4:20:27 PM

For the record, the "bullying over art" thing is in response to art that alienates the demographics that certain characters are meant to represent. Like... drawing a skinny Rose generally means you don't see any worth in her being a fat charcter. Drawing a Humanized Garnet and making her anything other than Black requires either a staggering amount of ignorance, or else implies that you consider Garnet's "Blackness" an inherently negative trait.

ClownToy Since: Aug, 2015
#32832: Jun 1st 2016 at 4:22:23 PM

In other words, the "Social Justice Warriors" attack you merilessly with comments and menaces from internet.

SmartGirl333 New account is voidify Since: Nov, 2014
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#32833: Jun 1st 2016 at 4:23:24 PM

We're not saying that suicide baiting is ever an appropriate response to anything, but the fact that their opponents did a Bad Thing does not make the artist completely in the right.

TheHandle United Earth from Stockholm Since: Jan, 2012 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
United Earth
#32834: Jun 1st 2016 at 4:28:42 PM

Look, it wasn't a deliberate choice, it was just the limits of her competence, apparently; she just couldn't draw Rose's actual proportions correctly.

Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that.
SmartGirl333 New account is voidify Since: Nov, 2014
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#32835: Jun 1st 2016 at 4:30:05 PM

If you can't draw someone in a way that fits what they look like but want to draw them, then provide a disclaimer that you are aware your way of drawing them doesn't fit what they look like. Lampshade your own weaknesses before you're called out for them by someone else

edited 1st Jun '16 4:31:54 PM by SmartGirl333

AdricDePsycho Rock on, Gold Dust Woman from Never Going Back Again Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
Rock on, Gold Dust Woman
#32836: Jun 1st 2016 at 4:32:41 PM

That still doesn't justify her being harassed, Sophia. Hell, I saw the drawing, her Rose wasn't even that skinny.

Have you any dreams you'd like to sell?
Rinsankajugin Since: Feb, 2012
#32837: Jun 1st 2016 at 4:32:56 PM

If I remember correctly, the skinny Rose artist was also known for being racist and sexist, so while it did suck that she was bullied per say, she is still not in the right technically.

Eh, it's best to say that the human race has various people of different tastes and personalities, and while there is definite rights and wrongs, everything is so blended together that it really isn't a black and white situation. We can't just blanket everyone as bad just because some people did some nasty or mean things, but we also can't cover up the fact that such terrible things are being done at all.

It's best to just say that we are humans, we are different, and we'll try to better ourselves as a species.

And I am also keen to the idea of a SU Soundtack Album, I'd definitely get some of that.

edited 1st Jun '16 4:33:42 PM by Rinsankajugin

AdricDePsycho Rock on, Gold Dust Woman from Never Going Back Again Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
Rock on, Gold Dust Woman
#32838: Jun 1st 2016 at 4:34:07 PM

She was not racist or sexist, people accused her of it because she cosplayed as Damara from Homestuck, a character made to be an Asian stereotype but people somehow thought the artist's cosplay was yellowface.

And either way, this is importing drama, so can we please for the love of god stop discussing this?

edited 1st Jun '16 4:37:18 PM by AdricDePsycho

Have you any dreams you'd like to sell?
randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Ghost '11
#32839: Jun 1st 2016 at 4:37:15 PM

It's real "unfortunate" to not be able to draw thick peeps, but the urge to draw them anyway is too strong to just avoid doing it.

There's no shame, it'll happen eventually.

Rules of the Internet 45. Rule 45 is a lie. Check out my art if you notice.
Rinsankajugin Since: Feb, 2012
#32840: Jun 1st 2016 at 4:37:57 PM

[up][up]Ah, I see. Thanks for clearing that up, it's been literally 2 years since the debacle, so I can't remember everything.

Still though, fandoms have good and bad people, but that not the fandom's fault, that just how humans work. Bad people can do good deeds and good people can draw or write some nasty stuff (need I remind y'all of Rebecca's EEnE stuff...), it's mostly on personality and intentions which is best to say, humans as a whole are of gray morality.

It's not bad, it's not good, we just do what we do and that's being humans.

edited 1st Jun '16 4:39:31 PM by Rinsankajugin

SalFishFin Since: Jan, 2001
#32841: Jun 1st 2016 at 4:38:38 PM

I have no idea what the cosplay looked like, but if it involved a non-Asian person modifying their appearance to make them fit the Asian phenotype, then it was yellowface. No matter the reasoning behind it.

EDIT: Alright. Consider the drama deported from this point on.

edited 1st Jun '16 4:39:54 PM by SalFishFin

AdricDePsycho Rock on, Gold Dust Woman from Never Going Back Again Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
Rock on, Gold Dust Woman
#32842: Jun 1st 2016 at 4:49:23 PM

The cosplay didn't involve making her eyes look slit, if that's what you mean. It just involved her putting on gray makeup and an outfit and stuff.

Have you any dreams you'd like to sell?
ClownToy Since: Aug, 2015
#32843: Jun 1st 2016 at 4:51:54 PM

Yeah, we just want to make an adecuate-as-possible resemblance wth our favorite characters, no disguise exactly as orientals.

edited 1st Jun '16 4:52:05 PM by ClownToy

ClownToy Since: Aug, 2015
#32844: Jun 1st 2016 at 4:52:59 PM

Why people gets so fixated on small details?

edited 1st Jun '16 4:53:07 PM by ClownToy

randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Ghost '11
#32845: Jun 1st 2016 at 4:54:18 PM

To need be accurate...otherwise it's not true fanart.

Rules of the Internet 45. Rule 45 is a lie. Check out my art if you notice.
SalFishFin Since: Jan, 2001
#32846: Jun 1st 2016 at 4:54:59 PM

Well, if we hadn't already deported the drama, I would say something along the lines of "Well that's not Yellowface by any definition, but I may have a tiny issue with someone who saw merit in cosplaying a character who was apparently (as I have not consumed Homestuck in any media format, and neither do I plan to) an offensive racist caricature."

edited 1st Jun '16 5:05:00 PM by SalFishFin

AdricDePsycho Rock on, Gold Dust Woman from Never Going Back Again Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
Rock on, Gold Dust Woman
#32847: Jun 1st 2016 at 4:57:15 PM

I'll explain it in a PM to keep the drama from being imported again.

Have you any dreams you'd like to sell?
Bananaquit Since: Jan, 2001
#32848: Jun 1st 2016 at 4:58:55 PM

Hey, remember when this thread used to be about Steven Universe? That was nice.

@SmartGirl333, I must be getting old, because I didn’t understand a single word of your post. And I still don’t know what it is.

Just kidding, it’s like a bus or something.

ClownToy Since: Aug, 2015
#32849: Jun 1st 2016 at 4:59:47 PM

I know, this is not the first time either, I had to do something the other two times.

edited 1st Jun '16 4:59:59 PM by ClownToy

SmartGirl333 New account is voidify Since: Nov, 2014
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#32850: Jun 1st 2016 at 5:00:28 PM

I never said that the artist deserved to be harassed. I said that neither the artist nor the harassers were fully in the right. Nobody deserves to be told to kill themselves and I would never endorse the harassment, however the artist's actions are not completely innocent just because worse things were done in response.

I'm not sure what's so unclear about my posts, but I'll stop now.

edited 1st Jun '16 5:01:25 PM by SmartGirl333


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