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xanderiskander Since: Mar, 2012
#32401: May 26th 2016 at 11:21:46 AM

From what I understand the difference between a Caste and a Class System is that it's possible for someone of a lower class to move up to a higher one, through effort. A Caste System, doesn't recognize effort. You're just born into your caste, and you have to stay there, and show respect to people in a caste above yours.

But I might be thinking of older caste systems, where they had karma in mind, and assumed someone was just "fated" to live the way they were because of something they did in a past life. There's probably different kinds of caste systems today.

edited 26th May '16 11:30:32 AM by xanderiskander

unknowing from somewhere.. Since: Mar, 2014
#32402: May 26th 2016 at 11:28:14 AM

Like i said, if old homeworld look like colonial empire them new homeworld look techo facistic nightmare where thing have a grandiose sense to show the power of homeworld AND at the same thing being very unfeeling and unpleasent or everyone around.

"My Name is Bolt, Bolt Crank and I dont care if you believe or not"
Keybreak (Long Runner)
#32403: May 26th 2016 at 11:32:51 AM

I don't think Homeworld would look unpleasant. Authoritarian and suffocating, but still beautifully constructed.

Maybe like a colony, but more crowded.

I think it started like this...somebody starts planting rocks in the ground, then those rocks keep planting more rocks, and then when they don't have anymore ground to plant rocks in, they look for new ground to plant rocks in.

What's always funny about imperialistic alien races is how sparse they seem in our corner of the universe. [lol]

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TheHandle United Earth from Stockholm Since: Jan, 2012 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
United Earth
#32404: May 26th 2016 at 11:40:41 AM

Space is big.

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xanderiskander Since: Mar, 2012
#32405: May 26th 2016 at 11:44:53 AM

They weren't really sparse, when they invaded the first time.

unknowing from somewhere.. Since: Mar, 2014
#32406: May 26th 2016 at 12:14:46 PM

Also, is not strange how they just same Jasper as peridot reforcement? you would expect a contigent or two of Rubis or other gem around, maybe is just me but the build to bigger conflict that is actually show.

Granted they now send a bunch of Rubies which mean soon or latter, Homeworld is going show WHY they are so OP as hell.

"My Name is Bolt, Bolt Crank and I dont care if you believe or not"
Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#32407: May 26th 2016 at 12:38:28 PM

In fairness, Jasper was able to beat up all the Crystal Gems herself with the handy dandy destabilizer prod.

And the three Crystal Gems were the only ones they knew about due to Peridot seeing them in Marble Madness.

Jasper was hoping for more but even if there had been more they had the giant hand spaceship.

Not that the mission was to fight the Crystal Gems anyway. I think that's something Jasper decided to do. Peridot just wanted to check the Cluster and they gave her Jasper because she kept whining about the heroes breaking her stuff.

edited 26th May '16 12:38:46 PM by Bocaj

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hcobb Since: Jan, 2001
#32408: May 26th 2016 at 12:51:31 PM

HW seems very keen on information control. The CG had never heard of The Cluster and Peridot had never heard of them. No old time war stories? The CG were simply written out of the history books?

unknowing from somewhere.. Since: Mar, 2014
#32409: May 26th 2016 at 1:01:25 PM

[up]the cluster seen a new trick invented by YD or BD after wittness the efect of fusion and aparenly homeworld just thought that earth was reduce to nothing after the diamon tri-atack, which is almost true if it wasnt for Rose Shield, as far Peridot is concernt the crystal gem where footnote in glorious empire story.

"My Name is Bolt, Bolt Crank and I dont care if you believe or not"
xanderiskander Since: Mar, 2012
#32410: May 26th 2016 at 1:10:17 PM

It seems implied the Crystal Gems movement was gaining traction and disrupting the social order, so the reason they left in such a hurry, censored history, and set the planet to blow up years later, was to prevent more gems from defecting to them.

The light in the sky might have been what caused the huge crater where Russia is supposed to be, but it doesn't seem to affected most life on Earth, which is pretty much the same. Mostly just affected gems.

edited 26th May '16 1:20:37 PM by xanderiskander

unknowing from somewhere.. Since: Mar, 2014
#32411: May 26th 2016 at 2:44:11 PM

[up]to be fair, we dont know how much afect earth oh if there was EVEN some life there, is clear that tri-atack blast Rose forces to kindom come.

Also it seen YD is the one with vendetta against CG, it seen weird but for what we seen they seen to have diferent way to rule the kindom, which is not surprising: YD is pretty much gem frieza(with dio throw at it) and BD seen more gem palpatine, I cannot way to see WD

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#32412: May 26th 2016 at 4:04:52 PM

"Show her my sweet?"

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#32413: May 26th 2016 at 4:07:41 PM

So. Much. Cringe.

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#32414: May 26th 2016 at 4:11:42 PM

Oh damn! It's a Ruby!

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#32415: May 26th 2016 at 4:12:26 PM

God, that episode was painful to watch. Not in a bad way, though.

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YamiVizziniX Since: Jan, 2015 Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
#32416: May 26th 2016 at 4:13:04 PM

Peridot is getting straight-up adorable.grin

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WillKeaton from Alberta, Canada Since: Jun, 2010
#32417: May 26th 2016 at 4:15:58 PM

A while back, when a clip for this episode was leaked on youtube, I saw the thumbnail, which was this image and I immediately thought that the three of them were watching the barn burn down, having accidentally lit it on fire due to Lapis and Peridot's antics from not getting along. The stunned looks on their face and the lighting all contributed to this. So I thought going in that I knew what was going to happen, but it turns out I was wrong. So this was kind of an anti-spoiler.

edited 26th May '16 4:16:26 PM by WillKeaton

nomuru2d Gamer-turning-maker from Port Saint Lucie, FL Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Longing for Dulcinea
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#32418: May 26th 2016 at 4:18:01 PM

Okay, so... like I mentioned in the spoiler thread, this episode was the first one that made Lapis into my absolute favorite Gem. She was just hilarious in her bitterness.

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smokeycut Since: Mar, 2013
#32419: May 26th 2016 at 4:24:39 PM

Lapis seems to have lost a bunch of fans who hate how they were wrong about her being the Pure, Elegant Lady of the group. Meanwhile, she's gained a bunch more due to being a walking salt mine (me included. It's hilarious.)

And then there are others who enjoy her just as much like this as before.

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Court Dragon
#32420: May 26th 2016 at 4:27:11 PM

I'm the same about Lapis as before. I like her , and I totally understand why she's so bitter and angry in this episode. She totally has that right, and it led to a hilarious episode.

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TheHandle United Earth from Stockholm Since: Jan, 2012 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
United Earth
#32421: May 26th 2016 at 4:31:51 PM

Lappis isn't salty. She's bitter. Two very different flavours.

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MousaThe14 Writer, Artist, Ignored from Northern Virginia Since: Jan, 2011 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
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#32422: May 26th 2016 at 4:33:08 PM

I had no feelings about Lapis whatsoever other than feeling sorry for her as a character there was nothing for me to latch on to. Now that we've had these past few episodes I can officially say she's great. Fantastic Crystal Gem. Thumbs up.

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BlueBlaze64 The Watcher on the Tower from Empire City Since: Sep, 2012 Relationship Status: I'm just a poor boy, nobody loves me
The Watcher on the Tower
#32423: May 26th 2016 at 4:37:23 PM

If Amethyst is the fun older sister, Lapis is definitely the goth older sister.

"The cruelest thing you can do to an artist is tell them their work is flawless when it isn't." -Ben "Yahtzee" Croshaw
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#32424: May 26th 2016 at 4:42:29 PM

[up][up]I don't think she would appreciate being called a Crystal Gem.tongue

But, yeah, Lapis is great.

Keybreak (Long Runner)
#32425: May 26th 2016 at 4:44:40 PM

How about...

Steven is sweet, Peridot is sour, Lapis is bitter, Pearl is salty, Garnet is savory, and Amethyst is spicy.

Spice isn't a taste, but I pretend it is.

You gotta believe me when I scare you away, all that I wish for is that you would stay

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