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smokeycut Since: Mar, 2013
#31526: May 17th 2016 at 5:03:23 PM

And Lapis tried to drown two kids, stole the Earth's water, trapped Jasper inside her own body for weeks (if not months) at the bottom of the ocean, killed Watermelon Stevens as Malachite, bashed Greg into his van, attempted to murder the gems, and (if she did appear in The Answer) was a part of Blue Diamond's court.

There's a massive double standard when it comes to Lapis and Jasper.

MightyMatilda Mr. Clueless from New Jersey, USA Since: Jan, 2015
Mr. Clueless
#31527: May 17th 2016 at 5:04:57 PM

[up]If Steven Universe were more realistic, Lapis doomed nearly all life to extinction.

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smokeycut Since: Mar, 2013
#31528: May 17th 2016 at 5:07:01 PM

All I'm saying is that its frankly ridiculous how quickly the fandom will excuse one character's actions while demonizing another and acting as though she's a heartless monster beyond redemption (even though the crewniverse have stated that that isn't true at all).

GarnetRebeller96 Since: Nov, 2015
#31529: May 17th 2016 at 5:07:11 PM

There's double standard because Jasper looks big and intimating. Lapiss and Peridot look small and cute in comparison. So there able to get past there bad deeds.

AdricDePsycho Rock on, Gold Dust Woman from Never Going Back Again Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
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#31530: May 17th 2016 at 5:12:57 PM

How about we wait until Jasper actually does shit? Because she's barely done anything as of late.

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ScottPilgrim2013 Why aren't you laughing? from Arkham Asylum Since: Jun, 2013 Relationship Status: Waiting for Prince Charming
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#31531: May 17th 2016 at 5:14:21 PM

@Random Ruin what for you?

[up]Doesn't really help that when we do see Jasper post-Jail Break, she doesn't do or say much.

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AdricDePsycho Rock on, Gold Dust Woman from Never Going Back Again Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
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#31532: May 17th 2016 at 5:16:27 PM

Which is why I say wait. Whether or not Jasper is beyond redemption or not is a moot point until she does something that'll either prove she can be redeemed, or prove she's crossed the Moral Event Horizon.

Either way, I just want Centipeedle back, man. I really could not give less of a fuck about Jasper, I just wanna see Centipeedle.

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ScottPilgrim2013 Why aren't you laughing? from Arkham Asylum Since: Jun, 2013 Relationship Status: Waiting for Prince Charming
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#31533: May 17th 2016 at 5:17:30 PM

I want em both back. But odds are, it'll be awhile since it seems like we're gonna have to deal with Lapis for a while.

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#31534: May 17th 2016 at 5:18:36 PM

SAVECENTIPEEDLE 2 K 17

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GarnetRebeller96 Since: Nov, 2015
#31535: May 17th 2016 at 5:18:52 PM

Oh dear, I misspelled Lapis as Lapiss....

I seriously need a new keyboard.

Collen the cutest lizard from it is a mystery Since: Dec, 2010
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#31536: May 17th 2016 at 5:19:39 PM

I'm super excited for this episode. It's going to be the first time we've seen Lapis in a situation where she's actually able to be happy and not in any immediate danger.

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GarnetRebeller96 Since: Nov, 2015
Collen the cutest lizard from it is a mystery Since: Dec, 2010
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#31538: May 17th 2016 at 5:21:51 PM

What d'you mean?

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MightyMatilda Mr. Clueless from New Jersey, USA Since: Jan, 2015
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#31539: May 17th 2016 at 5:24:30 PM

Don't get your hopes up juuust yet.

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Collen the cutest lizard from it is a mystery Since: Dec, 2010
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#31540: May 17th 2016 at 5:28:21 PM

Look, judging by the promos, she's going to be happy for at least a minute. That's a new record!

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randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
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#31541: May 17th 2016 at 5:33:46 PM

I shouldn't excuse Lapis' and Peridot's actions....Sure.

I'm not treating Jasper like she's done worse either, I'm just saying that I expect Jasper to "do" more bad stuff because of her personality and what she's been through.

She's not been touched by Earth or Steven like Lapis and Peridot...so, I'll just think she do more bad until the next time we see her.

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ScottPilgrim2013 Why aren't you laughing? from Arkham Asylum Since: Jun, 2013 Relationship Status: Waiting for Prince Charming
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#31542: May 17th 2016 at 5:35:50 PM

I'm really not sure what to expect the next time we see Jasper since it seems the writers aren't too sure what to do with her just yet. Either that or they don't want to use her currently and instead want to focus on other things.

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HextarVigar That guy from The Big House Since: Feb, 2015
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#31543: May 17th 2016 at 5:37:48 PM

So the way shard fusions work is two or more shards find each other and combine together in such a way that the broken parts match. The hole is filled, so it must be correct, right?

That's why they're all jumbled up.

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xanderiskander Since: Mar, 2012
#31544: May 17th 2016 at 6:08:54 PM

And Lapis tried to drown two kids, stole the Earth's water, trapped Jasper inside her own body for weeks (if not months) at the bottom of the ocean, killed Watermelon Stevens as Malachite, bashed Greg into his van, attempted to murder the gems, and (if she did appear in The Answer) was a part of Blue Diamond's court.
1) Her trying to drown the kids, attacking Greg's van and making the ocean tower, all happened while her gem was cracked. She was arguably insane & panicking at the time. Amethyst couldn't even speak right when her gem was cracked, and hers was much smaller.

2) She formed Malachite and trapped Jasper to protect Steven. Jasper has never done anything for someone else's sake. So we sympathize with Lapis in this scenario, and not Jasper because of her intentions being selfless.

3) Pretty sure we're meant to think it's Jasper's personality coming through when Malachite attacks the watermelon Steven, given that she mentions his name, and glares at him, it's clearly supposed echo the scene from Steven's dream in Chille Tid. And remind us of the fact that Jasper had been slowly been gaining control since that episode.

edited 17th May '16 6:21:20 PM by xanderiskander

Collen the cutest lizard from it is a mystery Since: Dec, 2010
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#31545: May 17th 2016 at 6:10:34 PM

I wouldn't say that Lapis was insane. Just very frightened, and understandably angry at the Crystal Gems for keeping her trapped in a mirror.

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xanderiskander Since: Mar, 2012
#31546: May 17th 2016 at 6:13:51 PM

A panic attack is considered a form of "temporary insanity" either way.

smokeycut Since: Mar, 2013
#31547: May 17th 2016 at 6:17:08 PM

Due to various personal reasons, I'm not really willing to accept "panicking" as an excuse for attempted murder.

Plus, Jasper has had very little screentime. If you looked at the appearances Jasper has had vs Peridot's first few episodes, there's not a giant difference in morality.

And, once again, the crewniverse have explicitly stated that no one in the show is evil, and that Jasper is far more complex than we've seen so far.

randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
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#31548: May 17th 2016 at 6:19:27 PM

No one's saying Jasper is evil...

Also screen time doesn't matter, what is done during that time matters.

edited 17th May '16 6:20:12 PM by randomness4

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smokeycut Since: Mar, 2013
#31549: May 17th 2016 at 6:20:26 PM

You were saying she was going to go on a killing spree, so.....

And yeah, that's my point. If you look at Peridot's early screentime, she had zero redeeming qualities as well. As far as we saw, she was content with everything homeworld was doing.

edited 17th May '16 6:21:30 PM by smokeycut

randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Ghost '11
#31550: May 17th 2016 at 6:21:21 PM

That's what I want to happen...I didn't say it would.

That idea popped up as a hypothetical situation.

edited 17th May '16 6:22:31 PM by randomness4

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