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xanderiskander Since: Mar, 2012
#31376: May 15th 2016 at 11:17:10 AM

Well, I'm not seeing any reason to believe it's form is supposed to be different now because Steven talked to it. We would have had to see it form in the first place for us to know that.

And it was explained in the guidebook that corrupted gems are "battle damaged". Moreover the gem mutants can't communicate through normal means either. Steven entering the cluster's mind has been the only time we've seen that happen.

edited 15th May '16 11:22:30 AM by xanderiskander

unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#31377: May 15th 2016 at 11:56:13 AM

I mean, the fact that the Cluster was able to communicate with Steven like that at all puts their sapience somewhere above Lion.

And, yes, I know they're battle damaged, but what kind of battle-damage isn't specified. Or the extent.

Cluster Chat is the best thing from Texts Between Gems.

I like this form for the Cluster.

higurashimerlin Since: Aug, 2012
#31378: May 15th 2016 at 11:57:14 AM

The gems in the cluster didn't seem to be aware of each other, They were physically fused. Now that are speaking to each other, they might become a proper fusion.

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#31379: May 15th 2016 at 12:02:56 PM

I also like that Cluster, unnoun

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Collen the cutest lizard from it is a mystery Since: Dec, 2010
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#31380: May 15th 2016 at 12:15:46 PM

I like the idea that Steven doesn't just heal people using his healing powers, he also heals them using his words. Maybe if the pieces of the Cluster learn how to coordinate with each other, they'll be able to create a more stable form. Although first they'd probably need to be teleported out of the core so they don't destroy the earth.

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higurashimerlin Since: Aug, 2012
#31381: May 15th 2016 at 12:33:30 PM

How big is the cluster's gem anyways? If it takes on the smallest form possible it can take then it might be able to drag itself out without ripping the Earth apart. But teleporting it out is probably safer.

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InAnOdderWay Since: Nov, 2013
#31382: May 15th 2016 at 12:34:17 PM

Honestly the Cluster could go either way with its stability. They could come up with a convincing explanation for either. It's just that it wouldn't make sense for the Cluster to be defeated in such a, well, offhand manner. 10+ episodes worth of buildup and team building to be resolved in 5 minutes by one character seems very suspicious, and there are very few other things that they could else be building too, seasonal arcs be dammed (Jasper isn't a significant threat on her own, Homeworld isn't going to send anything higher than basic troops and maybe some slightly higher tier soldiers at best, maybe the geode?). It certainly changes the gameplan on how the characters are going to deal with the Cluster, but it doesn't suddenly make the Cluster resolved.

randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Ghost '11
#31383: May 15th 2016 at 12:39:14 PM

[up][up]No form the Cluster takes would be small enough to not do damage to the Earth.

Gems have set sizes, it just won't work.

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randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
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#31385: May 15th 2016 at 1:13:12 PM

Garnet already knows what HW thinks of fusion...she can't exactly dislike Jaspee anymore because of this Malachite fiasco...it's like the same thing.

There's no reason why she should bear any ill feels towards Lapis either...she kinda sorta saved them by doing the fusion thing.

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Collen the cutest lizard from it is a mystery Since: Dec, 2010
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#31386: May 15th 2016 at 1:18:24 PM

I kind of agree that Garnet's going to have complicated feelings about Malachite, but I don't think she's going to outright hate Lapis for it. Garnet's interactions with Peridot has shown that she's a very patient person when it comes to dealing with the mentality towards fusion that Homeworld has instilled in its population. I think she'll probably end up talking to Lapis about it, but I can't see her snapping at Lapis. It's not in character.

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smokeycut Since: Mar, 2013
#31387: May 15th 2016 at 1:20:58 PM

I think the main conflict between Lapis and the gems will come from Lapis' end, not theirs. She's shown that she pretty much hates everyone but Steven, so that's where she's going to have to grow.

TheHandle United Earth from Stockholm Since: Jan, 2012 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
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#31388: May 15th 2016 at 1:32:12 PM

I pretty much hate everyone but Steven. And Bun Bun.

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Collen the cutest lizard from it is a mystery Since: Dec, 2010
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#31389: May 15th 2016 at 1:39:41 PM

I mean, Lapis does have legitimate reasons to dislike the other gems. There will need to be growth on both sides if they want to start getting along.

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randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Ghost '11
#31390: May 15th 2016 at 1:42:33 PM

[up][up]What did everyone else do to ya?

Why ya hatin'?

[up]Less growth by comparison for the Crystal Gems.

edited 15th May '16 1:43:13 PM by randomness4

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unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#31391: May 15th 2016 at 2:09:34 PM

Lapis saved the Crystal Gems by fusing with Jasper but that was more of a side-effect of her wanting revenge on Jasper and trying to protect Steven.

In no way, shape, or form has anything Lapis did been for Garnet's sake, or Amethyst's, or Pearl's. That they're saved as well constitutes collateral damage.

Near as I can tell she still hates their guts.

randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Ghost '11
#31392: May 15th 2016 at 2:16:51 PM

You went in the opposite direction.

It's not about how Lapis feels, it's about Garnet's feeling on Lapis' use of fusion from that link you posted.

Garnet wouldn't care why they fused...them fusing was a dangerous situation and Lapis saved their butts even if she was using it as a prison for Jaspee.

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unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#31393: May 15th 2016 at 2:19:24 PM

Garnet would care a lot about why they fused.

If there's one thing the Week Of Sardonyx taught us, it's that.

thatother1dude from Land of the Ill, Annoyin' Since: Jan, 2001
#31394: May 15th 2016 at 2:20:44 PM

@Xander Iskander: Unnoun is saying the lack of communication between shards in cluster gems is why their body composition is so random.

Steven made them aware of and able to communicate with each other, so it can be "I'll form the head. I'll form the left arm." instead of "I'll form the left arm. I'll form the left arm. I'll form the clitoris eyeball".

Collen the cutest lizard from it is a mystery Since: Dec, 2010
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#31395: May 15th 2016 at 2:22:59 PM

[up][up] The reason why Garnet got so upset about the Sardonyx incident was because Pearl was her friend, and she violated Garnet's trust and boundaries.

Like I said, Garnet will probably need to talk to Lapis about what happened, since she understands fusion the best out of the Crystal Gems, but I doubt she'll be that pissed off about it. (Especially since her reaction to Lapis and Jasper fusing was a deadpan "Yikes.")

edited 15th May '16 2:23:14 PM by Collen

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randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
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#31396: May 15th 2016 at 2:27:19 PM

Violated her trust, used her, and wasted time they could've been using to track down P-dot...three strikes for Pearly.

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unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#31397: May 15th 2016 at 4:03:15 PM

It's worth noting that we've seen cracked gems in the form of Amethyst and Lapis and. While they were unstable. They did mostly maintain the form they had. But with distortions. And the ability to control the entire ocean.

But in that one episode where Amethyst regenerated a bunch of times in succession. She got increasingly unstable and uncoordinated in a dangerous sense.

Centipeedle's gem doesn't look damaged. Not many of the corrupted gems do, actually.

So it almost seems like the corrupted gems come from not damage to the gems themselves but damage to their bodies. They die and regenerate over and over again too quickly and the pain of it drives them nuts. Until they can't process it anymore.

SonOfSharknado Love is Love is Love Since: Oct, 2013 Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
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#31398: May 15th 2016 at 4:19:40 PM

I can't get over how horrifying The Cluster is.

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unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
LeGarcon Blowout soon fellow Stalker from Skadovsk Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: Gay for Big Boss
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#31400: May 15th 2016 at 4:24:47 PM

Can it be both?

Oh really when?

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