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Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#31301: May 14th 2016 at 11:47:15 AM

Low impressed whistle

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xanderiskander Since: Mar, 2012
#31302: May 14th 2016 at 11:55:31 AM

The mural thing is interesting.

unknowing from somewhere.. Since: Mar, 2014
#31303: May 14th 2016 at 1:06:08 PM

Ok, I saw the episode and....

-So Steven can enter the mind of Water-melons stevens?.....I missed a lot of stuff so I wont ask

-I liked how we already see this island twice so is given more and more continuity

-Jeez malachite is scary but it make me ask....why it dont defuse? it dosent there is much synch between Jasper and Lapis...meh, is probably another thing I miss

-I dont want to sound bad Alexandrite bu....Malachite is stronger than youcool

I mean, cmon, im the only one here who saw the irony of Malachite a two fused gem defeating a triple gem fusion? is the first time I saw a bad guy taking good advice...and use it to kick his living assevil grin, kudos for that.

-Im the only one who think of 300 or mad max when water-emlons stevn atack? no? just me?....damn :C

-So Jasper just....fall, that is intersting but more important...can lapis trust in gems? also how the hell she end in the mirror.

and of the other episode

-Peridot was great and I liked the whole "actually two hours"

-a N64 control? jeez sugar, just give him a play control like regular normal people!(yes I used to have a play one instead of N64, why did you ask?tongue)

-I...didnt like the end, it feel a little convinient that Steve managed to do that and it looks like Peridot drill didnt do a damn thing against the cluster, but I will give a past because it looks is not over.

Now if you excuse me, im going to see the rest of season 2

pd: Yes, english is not my first language, just in case someone ask

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MightyMatilda Mr. Clueless from New Jersey, USA Since: Jan, 2015
Mr. Clueless
#31304: May 14th 2016 at 1:08:38 PM

As other have pointed out to me, Alexandrite is kinda sorta technically a four-gem fusion. I know, it's confusing given how rarely Ruby and Sapphire appear.

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LeGarcon Blowout soon fellow Stalker from Skadovsk Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: Gay for Big Boss
Blowout soon fellow Stalker
#31305: May 14th 2016 at 1:11:18 PM

I choose to believe that Alexandrite gets her fire breath from Ruby.

Oh really when?
randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Ghost '11
#31306: May 14th 2016 at 1:16:19 PM

[up][up][up]Lapis was forcing them to stay fused, mang...and Jaspee decided to roll with it once she gained control.

[up]That is the only answer.

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xanderiskander Since: Mar, 2012
#31307: May 14th 2016 at 1:22:25 PM

[up][up][up] She isn't "kinda" a four gem fusion. She is a four gem fusion.

Also @unknowing you should probably watch all the previous episodes before the new ones. You'll understand what's going on better.

edited 14th May '16 1:23:49 PM by xanderiskander

Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#31308: May 14th 2016 at 1:29:21 PM

When Jasper finally got control, the Crystal Gems showed up and to be fair, neither Lapis nor Jasper like them very much.

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darkabomination Since: Mar, 2012
#31309: May 14th 2016 at 1:38:50 PM

So what's with the Peridot thing exactly?

Also agreed, the Continuity Lock-Out is great with this show. The amount of trust the staff have that the audience will understand what's going on after combining so many elements is still impressive to me. There's moments to remind the viewer on a few things, but for once in a long time the claim of subtle character development over many episodes that doesn't have to be blatantly pointed out feels true.

Like as one example in "Joy Ride" when he confesses to the cool kids that he sometimes thinks the Gems subconsciously blame him for his mother not being around is unexpected, but doesn't come out of nowhere. He clearly took their asides and Pearl's breakdown into account, even if it's more complicated than how he presented itand he seems to have gotten over that mindset.

Collen the cutest lizard from it is a mystery Since: Dec, 2010
the cutest lizard
#31310: May 14th 2016 at 1:42:05 PM

Yeah, and then people complain about an episode being "rushed" or "forced" because they don't remember all the foreshadowing and character development from previous episodes. (See: "Message Received")

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TheHandle United Earth from Stockholm Since: Jan, 2012 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
United Earth
#31311: May 14th 2016 at 3:01:06 PM

I thought these last two episodes were pretty damned rushy by Steven Universe standards.

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LeGarcon Blowout soon fellow Stalker from Skadovsk Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: Gay for Big Boss
Blowout soon fellow Stalker
#31312: May 14th 2016 at 3:03:18 PM

I have to agree. I love the way they went and the way they ended but I do think this is one of the few times the short runtimes worked against them.

Oh really when?
darkabomination Since: Mar, 2012
#31313: May 14th 2016 at 3:28:33 PM

I can agree, but not to the extent that it tainted what was there. It could've been drawn out more, but it doesn't help we've been waiting probably a fair bit longer than the staff thought we would for this conclusion.

I've heard the Cluster itself looks really freaking trippy.

wehrmacht belongs to the hurricane from the garden of everything Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
belongs to the hurricane
#31314: May 14th 2016 at 3:31:54 PM

I have to agree as well that the situation was resolved rather quickly, although I don't really find myself that dissatisfied with them or anything.

InAnOdderWay Since: Nov, 2013
#31315: May 14th 2016 at 3:41:49 PM

But I don't think it was a conclusion at all. It's a bandaid on the Cluster situation that existed to promote Peredemption. Now that the plot's back down to a more sensible level it wouldn't make much sense for them to keep pushing the frantic pace.

And, to repeat myself even more, if they wanted to resolve the cluster for good they would have put it at the end of Season 2, not at the beginning of Season 3.

TheHandle United Earth from Stockholm Since: Jan, 2012 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
United Earth
#31316: May 14th 2016 at 3:47:35 PM

The Cluster was awesome. It was Evangelion done right.

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MightyMatilda Mr. Clueless from New Jersey, USA Since: Jan, 2015
Mr. Clueless
#31317: May 14th 2016 at 3:49:36 PM

Was Neon Genesis really the first piece of fiction to include a person talking to a hive mind? Because other than that, they don't seem all that similar.

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AdricDePsycho Rock on, Gold Dust Woman from Never Going Back Again Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
Rock on, Gold Dust Woman
#31318: May 14th 2016 at 3:49:47 PM

[up][up][up]

The Crewniverse don't give a shit about seasons anymore, man. Either Ian or Matt tweeted that they don't care where one begins or ends now.

edited 14th May '16 3:50:09 PM by AdricDePsycho

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DrDougsh Since: Jan, 2001
#31319: May 14th 2016 at 3:52:15 PM

I didn't find those episdodes particularly rushed. Possibly because I, too, didn't see this as the final resolution to the Cluster arc, just a temporary measure to buy time.

unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#31320: May 14th 2016 at 3:54:01 PM

I think the Cluster was handled perfectly.

Like, I would still personally want to get it out, but. I think it was handled pretty well.

InAnOdderWay Since: Nov, 2013
#31321: May 14th 2016 at 4:02:06 PM

[up][up][up] My point being that they made it a point to start an entirely new plot arc right before resolving a smaller plot arc after hyping it up for half a season, and introducing plot points relevant to said plot arc without using them.

It's like that scene in a show where halfway through the season they capture the main villain, but because they still have 6 episodes left you fucking know they're going to escape somehow. GETBACKHEREJESSICA.

Here's how I see it: Lapisredemption during In Too Deep, then we get Summer of Steven which is character building and world building, then more lore stuff during the Fall around the time that the gems realize that the Cluster is still trying to take form anyways because it doesn't have much of a choice.

edited 14th May '16 4:03:59 PM by InAnOdderWay

Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#31322: May 14th 2016 at 4:10:02 PM

I'm not sure what more you could do with the Cluster.

You can't have a big epic showdown of ultimate destiny against something that big. And its not really in the show's ethos to do that anyway. Especially not when the Cluster is more a victim than a monster.

It was succinct but it covered what it needed to cover.

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thatother1dude from Land of the Ill, Annoyin' Since: Jan, 2001
#31323: May 14th 2016 at 4:10:04 PM

It's a bandaid on the Cluster situation
I, too, didn't see this as the final resolution to the Cluster arc, just a temporary measure to buy time.
How is time the issue? Gem bubbles have shown they can prevent reformation indefinitely. I'm sure it will be relevant again later, but not as a threat—unless Homeworld forcefully weaponize it.

Either Ian or Matt tweeted that they don't care where one begins or ends now.
Burnett said season 2 being reclassified as seasons 2&3 would have not affect the writing. In fact, it couldn't—by the time that was announced, production was well into what's now season 3 with numerous episodes completed.

In hindsight, I can kind of see what the executives were going for: Lapis's return is a good hook for a new run of episodes. Her being unconscious for what feels like months would be a far more infuriating cliffhanger than a then-unknown point in dealing with the Cluster.

then more lore stuff during the Fall around the time that the gems realize that the Cluster is still trying to take form anyways because it doesn't have much of a choice.
You think Homeworld aren't going to show up again before then?

edited 14th May '16 4:13:18 PM by thatother1dude

InAnOdderWay Since: Nov, 2013
#31324: May 14th 2016 at 4:17:00 PM

[up] If Homeworld shows up, I doubt they'll be in strong force. Some lower gems, maybe Peridot's supervisor, but certainly not a Diamond.

Anyways, I suspect that the Cluster won't hold, mainly because it's not a standard bubble. It's made up of many smaller bubbles put in place by other gems, deep underground (where there is constant pressure and force). Not every bubble is a Rose Quartz bubble, some are weaker than others. And even if that doesn't happen, there still might be some other thing that could reactivate a cluster.

As for what could be done with the Cluster, I suspect it'd be removing the cluster from the Earth, breaking it up and bubbling it all up in another, more stable location. Make it more of a group effort than just "Steven hugs thing", use it as an opportunity to show how everyone's grown as individuals.

edited 14th May '16 4:17:27 PM by InAnOdderWay

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