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unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#31276: May 13th 2016 at 9:49:00 PM

I mean, she did respect Rose's tactics. So in theory that respect could potentially lead to defection if she lost enough respect for her superiors.

But then. Steven's tactics probably aren't Rose's tactics.

If Steven even had tactics which he doesn't yet.

Although.

I personally think Hit the Diamond is going to have Jasper join. Not based on anything other than a personal hunch.

Maybe Steven's able to earn Jasper's respect and make her think he's a good tactician using baseball?

I dunno.

I think a fundamental difference between Jasper and Yellow Diamond is that where Jasper wants to fight the War again, Yellow Diamond really wants to pretend the War didn't happen. Where Peridot might oppose Yellow Diamond on the basis of unreasonable pettiness, Jasper might do so on the basis of cowardice and dishonor.

edited 13th May '16 9:56:18 PM by unnoun

thatother1dude from Land of the Ill, Annoyin' Since: Jan, 2001
#31277: May 13th 2016 at 10:08:44 PM

I was very confused by something Peridot said in the drill.

Steven: You were made on Homeworld, right?
Peridot: Mm-hmm.
Steven: What was it like?
Peridot: I didn't exist. Then I did. I don't have memories of it, just... feelings.

randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
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#31278: May 13th 2016 at 10:12:56 PM

She felt very much at home in the ground before being moved off planet.

Being stuck in the ground felt like not existing.

edited 13th May '16 10:13:52 PM by randomness4

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#31279: May 13th 2016 at 10:25:33 PM

[up][up][up] I do feel Jasper defecting is probably going to be along those lines yes. Basically, she would have to lose respect for Homeworld somehow to the point where she'd swear off her allegiance, and possibly gain enough respect for the Gems to fight for them instead. It's not out of the question at all, and I have to agree it might be the most interesting of the "redemption" arcs we've gotten so far because it probably wouldn't be predicated on Steven winning her over with kindness so much as a natural conclusion for Jasper based on her own values.

darkabomination Since: Mar, 2012
#31280: May 13th 2016 at 10:44:13 PM

Yeah that's a real puzzling line. It's definitely an odd way to phrase it.

Sounds like she was made there and shipped off for duty.

xanderiskander Since: Mar, 2012
#31281: May 13th 2016 at 10:59:25 PM

I highly doubt Jasper will be involved in Hit The Diamond. When they bring her back it'd be in an episode with conflict, or backstory. Not the Baseball Episode.

Last we saw her she fell into a crevice, on an island in the middle of the ocean. And Hit The Diamond takes place at the barn, and is the 5th episode of this event. It doesn't make any logical sense for her to appear there.

edited 13th May '16 11:03:39 PM by xanderiskander

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#31283: May 13th 2016 at 11:27:12 PM

Ah, nostalgia...

You gotta believe me when I scare you away, all that I wish for is that you would stay
randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
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#31284: May 13th 2016 at 11:31:48 PM

Menacing Peridot...ha!

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#31285: May 13th 2016 at 11:59:30 PM

[up]x4 I dunno, have you seen the preview for "Hit the Diamond"? It's kind of very suspicious. I can't say with certainty that she'll show up in it, but I don't doubt it either.

Maybe Jasper won't actually be all that afraid of the ocean.

Generally speaking, the scenario that would make most sense to me is that Lapis and Jasper don't necessarily get over the bitter feelings that came from the whole ordeal, but acknowledge that they have a mutual goal so they tolerate one another. They don't become friends at all but are capable of working together if they absolutely have to.

All I know is that there are many paths Jasper and Lapis's relationship could take, and all of them involve hugging. I don't know in what context, it could be the most awkward hug any of us have ever seen, but they're going to hug. I don't make the rules.

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hcobb Since: Jan, 2001
#31286: May 14th 2016 at 12:55:52 AM

wild mass guess The feelings are from the gem animal form then the thought is overlain to the Uplifted Animal as the humanoid form is imposed on it. This overlay is unnatural and so subject to corruption by the underlying nature.

The cluster is only several miles across at the moment from its curvature. (Anybody calculated?) It would only cause a megavolcano (from the pressure difference) if it suddenly vanished.

The only relationship Peridot has ever had is devotion to her supervisor and especially the top of the pile. The only change in her feelings is a change of loyalty to Steven. She's still stuck with the isolation from peers emotional baggage of Homeworld and so treats the other CG as rivals who would bad mouth her to their big boss, who is Steven. She doesn't have the emotional maturity to trust anybody with fusion.

darkabomination Since: Mar, 2012
#31287: May 14th 2016 at 2:30:26 AM

Seriously, if you don't stop that I'll be crossing the line from annoyed to pissed. It's not funny and contributes nothing to the discussion.

hcobb Since: Jan, 2001
#31288: May 14th 2016 at 2:53:27 AM

[up]The cluster clearly isn't moon sized as shown. I'd scale from the size of the drill, but that seems inconsistently sized.

randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
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#31289: May 14th 2016 at 2:56:00 AM

Nah, that's just the different viewing distances.

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#31290: May 14th 2016 at 4:22:28 AM

I've seen the French description of Hit the Diamond.

Trust me, Jasper ain't showing up.

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InAnOdderWay Since: Nov, 2013
#31291: May 14th 2016 at 5:53:42 AM

Well remember, while Peridot was charmed by Steven's interactions it really wasn't until YD's seemingly illogical rage towards the destruction of Earth that Peridot realized that not even the Diamonds operated completely on logic, and as such it wouldn't make sense for her to either.

If Jasper has an arc I expect it'll likely play into her role as a noble warrior. "Cheap tic-tak" and all that jazz. She has the perception of someone who shows authority through strength, but at the same time respects those who put authority through strength. She won't understand how Steven can draw such leadership through pure good will. Similar to Peridot, it would take something that would show her that Homeworld, her foundations, don't follow her values any more than the gems do, so why should she?

darkabomination Since: Mar, 2012
#31292: May 14th 2016 at 7:12:39 AM

Jasper being Jasper, that would sound like she'd be less inclined to join the Gems and more inclined to go all fuck authority, I do what the hell I want, and trash both sides.

Antiteilchen In the pursuit of great, we failed to do good. Since: Sep, 2013
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#31293: May 14th 2016 at 9:06:04 AM

Also, I don't get why everyone is acting like the Cluster is just fixed and gone. I saw it as a pretty clear "we've solved it for now, but it'll come back later to screw us over" move. If they really wanted to have Steven fix the cluster on his own they wouldn't have put it at the beginning of Season 3.
Hmmm. Or instead of screwing them over, it helps them against the Homeworld Gems? Having the Cluster might give them a chance against an incursion.

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#31294: May 14th 2016 at 9:06:45 AM

[up]If it forms, everyone dies.

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#31295: May 14th 2016 at 9:07:58 AM

[up]Everyone on Earth, that is. Not sure if it'll be able to move across space.

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#31296: May 14th 2016 at 9:19:28 AM

Cant's bubbles be teleported? Teleport it into space and the earth doesn't get destroyed if it forms.

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#31297: May 14th 2016 at 9:25:24 AM

[up]Regular-size bubbles. Specifically, they can get transported to the burning room. Don't know about anywhere else.

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#31298: May 14th 2016 at 9:25:29 AM

Not sure if teleporting a bubble that big would be easy.

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