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SmartGirl333 New account is voidify Since: Nov, 2014
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#31226: May 13th 2016 at 4:57:51 PM

Steven can be close to Peri and Lapis without romance- it's called friendship

edited 13th May '16 5:00:28 PM by SmartGirl333

darkabomination Since: Mar, 2012
#31227: May 13th 2016 at 4:58:48 PM

The Cluster reminded me a lot of the Meta from Red VS Blue, for anyone who's seen it. The way AI fragments behave like Gem shards is very similar complete with the multiple voices in a Mind Hive that just wants to be whole again.

ScottPilgrim2013 Why aren't you laughing? from Arkham Asylum Since: Jun, 2013 Relationship Status: Waiting for Prince Charming
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#31228: May 13th 2016 at 5:04:36 PM

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smokeycut Since: Mar, 2013
#31229: May 13th 2016 at 5:05:50 PM

The scene with Steven talking to the cluster felt kinda Evangelion-ey to me. I liked it though.

Now I'm just really hoping that Alone At Sea does turn out to be a Jasper focus episode.

randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
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#31230: May 13th 2016 at 5:08:10 PM

An episode where Jasper grows to hate the earth more and more to the point where becomes unstable...then gets corrupted.

That sounds nice.

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lycropath Since: Mar, 2010 Relationship Status: I like big bots and I can not lie
#31231: May 13th 2016 at 5:11:04 PM

Steven is fourteen and Lapis is an ageless rockmonster that looks and acts like a teenager, I can ship it all I want! [lol]

ScottPilgrim2013 Why aren't you laughing? from Arkham Asylum Since: Jun, 2013 Relationship Status: Waiting for Prince Charming
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#31232: May 13th 2016 at 5:12:41 PM

[up][up]I'd prefer that not to happen and we see Jasper develop more, not regress into a more primal state.

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smokeycut Since: Mar, 2013
#31233: May 13th 2016 at 5:13:20 PM

Yeah, I'm pretty much just rooting for a Jasper redemption arc. I love her.

randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
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#31234: May 13th 2016 at 5:15:13 PM

[up][up]She doesn't have to regress primal style, that's just wishful thinkin'.

My idea is that of a reverse Peridot situation....instead of learning to like the other with the push of other influential forces, she ends up hating it because of everything that has happened.

edited 13th May '16 5:16:31 PM by randomness4

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ScottPilgrim2013 Why aren't you laughing? from Arkham Asylum Since: Jun, 2013 Relationship Status: Waiting for Prince Charming
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#31235: May 13th 2016 at 5:16:20 PM

I expect her to be the hardest to redeem. Which could make it the most interesting of the 3 homeworlders to see turn good.

I'm still expecting her to be like the Vegeta of the team. Not entirely like him, of course, but I still think of him when I think of her redemption arc.

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Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
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#31236: May 13th 2016 at 5:16:55 PM

Would her corrupted form be tigerish, do you think?

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ScottPilgrim2013 Why aren't you laughing? from Arkham Asylum Since: Jun, 2013 Relationship Status: Waiting for Prince Charming
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#31237: May 13th 2016 at 5:17:52 PM

@Bocaj I could see that.

@Random That still doesn't sound like character growth.

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TheHandle United Earth from Stockholm Since: Jan, 2012 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
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#31238: May 13th 2016 at 5:19:33 PM

This episode was amazing.

It's been a while since I've teared up like this. This show can make me feel. Can make me care. Steven did something triumphant, and he did it with nothing but love and sincerity and compassion.

I love this show, so very much.

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randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
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#31239: May 13th 2016 at 5:22:13 PM

[up][up][up]Tiger does seem the most fitting.

[up][up]I don't know what to say, I'm kinda against the redemption thing for Jasper specifically. If it happens that's fine, but I'm holding out.

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ScottPilgrim2013 Why aren't you laughing? from Arkham Asylum Since: Jun, 2013 Relationship Status: Waiting for Prince Charming
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#31240: May 13th 2016 at 5:26:15 PM

I still find it hard for any of the characters to be irredeemable. Even Marty and the Diamonds.

As for Jasper, I doubt that when she does return, her being redeemed will start. I imagine she'll still be an enemy for a while once she comes back. But I don't want her to turn corrupted or something like that, I'd like for her to stay in her regular form. If only because a corrupted Jasper feels like she'd still be a static character. Plus, I'm betting she'll use what she knows about Rose to demoralize the Crystal Gems(Namely Steven) when she's still going against them.

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lycropath Since: Mar, 2010 Relationship Status: I like big bots and I can not lie
#31241: May 13th 2016 at 5:47:28 PM

I would like Jasper to stay evil if only to see how Steven deals with a problematic person that just can't be hugged until they become your friend, but I do understand that's probably not what the show is going for.

edited 13th May '16 5:52:57 PM by lycropath

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#31242: May 13th 2016 at 6:03:36 PM

I would be satisfied if her corruption was a catalyst for us actually finding out about how and why gems are corrupted.

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smokeycut Since: Mar, 2013
#31243: May 13th 2016 at 6:03:54 PM

What I hope happens: Jasper comes back, Steven gives her a hug, and she learns about how great Earth is through song.

What I expect will actually happen: Jasper will find her way back to Beach City once the gems leave the farm. She'll antagonize them a bit, and reveal a secret about Rose that the gems have been hiding from Steven. Steven will learn more about Jasper, and manage to get her to realize Earth will treat her better than homeworld. Everyone gets a star, new intro rolls.

Honestly though, I'm just happy that we've been told none of the characters are actually Evil.

edited 13th May '16 6:04:44 PM by smokeycut

randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
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#31244: May 13th 2016 at 6:08:56 PM

Despite it being a majorly bad thing, how will Jasper relay the information that cross fusion is actually beneficial to HW?

That's probably the thing she should focus on, but she might only be one-tracked in finding the CGs.

edited 13th May '16 6:11:31 PM by randomness4

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xanderiskander Since: Mar, 2012
#31245: May 13th 2016 at 6:14:28 PM

So If "Alone at Sea" is about Jasper, what excuse do you think they'll use to have Steven's perspective during the episode? Watermelons again? Mind controlling a seagull like in Wind Waker?

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smokeycut Since: Mar, 2013
#31247: May 13th 2016 at 6:15:48 PM

Not sure. Maybe have him somehow project himself like he did with the cluster?

InAnOdderWay Since: Nov, 2013
#31248: May 13th 2016 at 6:16:23 PM

[up][up][up][up] Of course HW knows that. Their reason for not liking Fusion isn't "not good smash", it's more like "radical ideals of empowering gems, thus breaking the carefully constructed caste system that our society is built on". If Jasper says anything, it'll go ignored and unnoticed at best, and at worst it'll lead to some serious repercussions for Jasper.

Also, I don't get why everyone is acting like the Cluster is just fixed and gone. I saw it as a pretty clear "we've solved it for now, but it'll come back later to screw us over" move. If they really wanted to have Steven fix the cluster on his own they wouldn't have put it at the beginning of Season 3.

More specifically, the Cluster was more at the time a tool for Peridemption to occur, as there needed to be an excuse for Peridot to work with the Crystal Gems. However, things like the conception and true purpose of the fusion, the second Kindergarten, etc. still remain unaddressed. It wouldn't make sense to keep the panic of the Cluster up, especially since there still needs to be Lapisredemption and maybe Jasperredemption before the end of the season, plus x amount of lore and y amount of slice of life episodes, where the fan expectation for x episodes is inverse to the amount of produced y episodes.

Basically, this move is preventing Arc Fatigue through putting a temporary band-aid on the problem, letting the show slow down to its usual, more manageable pace while still leaving a nice way to speed up the plot whenever they feel like it.

edited 13th May '16 6:17:05 PM by InAnOdderWay

randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
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#31249: May 13th 2016 at 6:24:17 PM

Nobod's acting like the Cluster is actually dealt with, it was just premature celebration from some.

It'll break their system, but I don't think they know that there are actually benefits to cross fusion if their first reaction to it was "disgusting!!" and "This is unheard of!!"

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InAnOdderWay Since: Nov, 2013
#31250: May 13th 2016 at 6:30:24 PM

[up] "Their" being Gem Society at large, or the rulers of Homeworld, aka the Diamonds? Because the Diamonds totally know. They're implied to be ancient, plus someone had to institute the concept of fusion, plus they regulate fusion, plus they experimented with fusion in the Cluster.

They know of the potential of fusion for destruction. Hell, even Jasper admits that fusion makes weak gems stronger, it's just that her overwhelming self loathing for existing in Malachite is overridden by her overwhelming desire to make the Crystal Gems suffer for doing that to her. She hasn't "found out" that fusion is for strong, she's just come to terms with her own situation.

The diamonds control gem society, they control what gems think, and therefor their reaction to things. If gem society sees fusion as wrong, it's because the diamonds see it as wrong, and the diamonds know the potential that fusion has to be used as a powerful weapon. That's why they utilize it so much. But there are also sharp restrictions put on fusion, put in place likely because they fear it.

edited 13th May '16 6:31:48 PM by InAnOdderWay


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