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hcobb Since: Jan, 2001
#30951: May 12th 2016 at 6:29:35 AM

Why are gems human shaped instead of spiders or ponies or starfish with only the CG adopting human forms to fit in with local population?

DeathsApprentice The Ultimate Lifeform from The Ark Since: Aug, 2011 Relationship Status: Is that a kind of food?
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#30952: May 12th 2016 at 6:37:02 AM

wild mass guess Because the Gems created the humans. wild mass guess

When we're done, there won't be anything left.
InAnOdderWay Since: Nov, 2013
#30953: May 12th 2016 at 6:38:03 AM

A couple different potential answers.

1. Human shaped beings are naturally more adapt for intergalactic survival.

2. Gems had some role in the formation of humans as a species, which makes sense with the given timeframes without resorting to Halo-esque "humans were the real ancient aliens" weirdness.

edited 12th May '16 6:39:22 AM by InAnOdderWay

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#30954: May 12th 2016 at 7:29:47 AM

The better question is why do humans look like gems.

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#30955: May 12th 2016 at 7:34:53 AM

Compromise: Some completely unrelated species created both in their own image

Now to get mad that this show clearly has pro-christian undertones.

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higurashimerlin Since: Aug, 2012
#30956: May 12th 2016 at 7:36:14 AM

Evolution explains why humans look like that do. Gems have no excuse for being humanoid.

edited 12th May '16 9:28:31 AM by higurashimerlin

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InAnOdderWay Since: Nov, 2013
#30957: May 12th 2016 at 7:41:24 AM

[up] Or potentially, by this show's clearly alternate history settings, here Gems were the ones that naturally evolved, and humans were the ones formed after them.

Or perhaps all species in this universe tend to naturally evolve human-like characteristics, as they are best adaptable to a space faring race.

But I don't see how "humans made gems" is the logical conclusion to draw from this. Again, it breaks the theming of the show, would hurt the potential for lore by shifting it from Gems to ancient humans, and would just be sort of stupid.

MightyMatilda Mr. Clueless from New Jersey, USA Since: Jan, 2015
Mr. Clueless
#30958: May 12th 2016 at 8:06:51 AM

What about a precursor species who seeded the galaxies with life so that they would evolve into humanoid forms (resembling the precursors) and then created the gems as an artificial race of personal warriors, only for the gems to later rebel and kill them off?

I mean, it sounds obvious, doesn't it.

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hcobb Since: Jan, 2001
#30959: May 12th 2016 at 8:15:17 AM

wild mass guess Gems weren't designed, they were redesigned. These Uplifted Animal s return to their natural forms when they break their humanoid programming.

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#30960: May 12th 2016 at 8:25:37 AM

This article helps explain my dislike for the Precursors Trope being used just for creators to be lazy and not explain aliens evolving naturally and their history and how they got to where they are on their own merits.

hcobb Since: Jan, 2001
#30961: May 12th 2016 at 8:35:43 AM

So gems discovered Earth then used Uterine Replicator tech to remake their children in humanoid forms?

MightyMatilda Mr. Clueless from New Jersey, USA Since: Jan, 2015
Mr. Clueless
#30962: May 12th 2016 at 9:08:45 AM

I love the Precursors trope simply because I love the idea of species fighting against their own creators to secure their freedom. I'm talking about series where the precursors are the main villains.

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hcobb Since: Jan, 2001
#30963: May 12th 2016 at 9:25:43 AM

So not the Precursors who don't do anything?

Anybody got a better why

  • Pink Diamond vanishes
  • Rose Quartz starts her rebellion. (With a Perl, normally found only w higher ranking gems)
and
  • Cluster seeded
all happened around the same time?

higurashimerlin Since: Aug, 2012
#30964: May 12th 2016 at 9:32:13 AM

My thought is that modern gems are basically the gem version of trans-humanism. Not a race created by another, but just the original naturally evolved gems figuring out how to design more of their kind artificially and with the traits they want.

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LeGarcon Blowout soon fellow Stalker from Skadovsk Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: Gay for Big Boss
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#30965: May 12th 2016 at 9:32:30 AM

My personal theory;

Pearl was a gift to Rose for exceptional service to the Homeworld.

Pink Diamond either started the rebellion or put the idea into Rose's head. Jasper mentions she fought in the first war for earth, implying at least two wars.

Pink Diamond was killed during before or during the rebellions and then unpersoned by the Diamond Authority for doing so. It's why her symbols are no longer on modern gem tech.

The Cluster is Yellow Diamond's final step in ensuring the complete erasure of the rebellion from history. This also explains why Peridot has never heard of the Crystal Gems.

Oh really when?
darkabomination Since: Mar, 2012
#30966: May 12th 2016 at 10:08:45 AM

Can agree with most of that aside from the first war bit. I think fans pull a little too hard at that one.

When she says "first war for this garbage planet", I think she just means she was expecting another, and is being a dick in her "Rose used to be stronger and cooler than this noob" speech.

KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#30967: May 12th 2016 at 10:10:48 AM

I dislike the Precursors trope too, but less because of what it is (I think it's, on its own, an interesting idea), but because it seems like every sci-fi universe relies on it these days, often as a shortcut to explain technology or races or etc.

randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Ghost '11
#30968: May 12th 2016 at 10:18:58 AM

You don't say "the first war" if there's only been one, that's really confusing.

If you want to clarify that there's only been one...you'd refer to it as "the one war" or "that one war"...or just "during the war"

It's not even in the case of expecting another war, Jasper really shouldn't be expecting a war out of 3 weak rebellious teen gems.

edited 12th May '16 10:19:52 AM by randomness4

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#30969: May 12th 2016 at 10:28:55 AM

There are hundreds of Pearls on Homeworld. Presumably, a Quartz's personal Pearl would still be fancy without necessarily belonging to one of the three Diamonds. Hell, Sapphire probably has/had a Pearl, considering her rarity!

edited 12th May '16 10:29:39 AM by PushoverMediaCritic

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#30970: May 12th 2016 at 10:30:27 AM

My thought is that modern gems are basically the gem version of trans-humanism. Not a race created by another, but just the original naturally evolved gems figuring out how to design more of their kind artificially and with the traits they want.

That would make...about as much sense as precursors (which is probably the easiest explanation that makes sense), since that's almost exactly what it is, but maybe annoy people less. tongue

I still like the idea of Homeworld being a Genius Loci that created the original gems (possibly the Diamonds) from its own mantle, and then "died."

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That's not even just hcobb being silly, that is exactly what is going on in this show.

[up]There's a pretty decent fanfic about that on AO 3 somewhere.

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#30971: May 12th 2016 at 10:32:36 AM

[up]You talking 'bout this? It was one of the first things I found when looking for Sapphire maybe having a Pearl.

edited 12th May '16 10:32:43 AM by PushoverMediaCritic

Ruise Nyanpasu~ from your subconscious Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: It's not my fault I'm not popular!
Nyanpasu~
#30972: May 12th 2016 at 10:40:50 AM

[up]Yeah.

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darkabomination Since: Mar, 2012
#30973: May 12th 2016 at 10:56:14 AM

If Blue Pearl ever got to talk, it'd be cute if she were the shrinking violet type that doesn't talk much and is very shy.

Ruise Nyanpasu~ from your subconscious Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: It's not my fault I'm not popular!
Nyanpasu~
#30974: May 12th 2016 at 11:03:31 AM

It'd be cuter if she was just snarky and catty as fuck and gossiped about all the other gems with Blue Diamond.

Loves feel-good animation a whole lot.
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#30975: May 12th 2016 at 11:05:04 AM

You know, Jasper probably has a Pearl too.


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