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AdricDePsycho Rock on, Gold Dust Woman from Never Going Back Again Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
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#30451: Apr 28th 2016 at 10:24:58 PM

I think one of the Crewniverse people said Lapis was interrogated in between The Return and Jailbreak. There has to have been some reason for Peridot to know about Steven healing Lapis's gem.

Have you any dreams you'd like to sell?
randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Ghost '11
#30452: Apr 28th 2016 at 10:30:40 PM

That was also implied in the episode.

She told them everything...except for Steve bein' human/gem.

edited 28th Apr '16 10:31:32 PM by randomness4

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darkabomination Since: Mar, 2012
#30453: Apr 29th 2016 at 12:05:34 AM

I can't see the animation so I'm just guessing here, but Lapis was the only Gem not knocked out and dragged to the ship. They could've just kept her in there while they locked the others up.

Where is she in the shot btw after Garnet gets zapped? Like until the episode ends.

randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Ghost '11
#30454: Apr 29th 2016 at 12:17:39 AM

Lapis doesn't move the entire time once they get off the ship.

Perfectly still between P-dot and Jasper.

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hcobb Since: Jan, 2001
#30455: Apr 29th 2016 at 6:02:25 AM

Peridot's first appearance in Warp Tour saw her use gem healing powers.

wild mass guess These were provided by another Rose, so Peridot isn't able to replicate this on her own.

Finn licked his princess into shape years before Steven did.

Cailleach Studious Girl from Purgatory Since: Sep, 2015 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
Studious Girl
#30456: Apr 29th 2016 at 2:42:32 PM

I want to learn about Gem culture. Not just what gem type does what job and how many planets they've colonized. I want to know what their culture is like. Do they have any holidays? What are the stories they grow up hearing? What kind of relationships do they have with each other? And I know Peridot had never heard of music, but there's never been a culture in the history of ever than didn't have music. Even animals have it. I want to hear gem music. I want Homeworld to get the treatment the Fire Nation did in the Avatar. Diverse people with a rich culture that just happen to have horrible leadership.

xanderiskander Since: Mar, 2012
#30457: Apr 29th 2016 at 2:54:58 PM

I think the only culture they'd have would be focused around their work. There's statues, and murals in honor of the diamonds, and beautiful architecture, and stuff like that. But recreational culture like music they wouldn't have time for, because they don't have time to relax. They just have their work, and that's their life.

Keybreak (Long Runner)
#30458: Apr 29th 2016 at 2:57:07 PM

The gems seem to be directed wholly toward colonization and growth. Peridot did have admiration for the completed colony, so they probably have art appreciation, at least art that idolizes their Diamonds.

They have dance though, so that must mean something.

You gotta believe me when I scare you away, all that I wish for is that you would stay
randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Ghost '11
#30459: Apr 29th 2016 at 2:57:54 PM

They serve their purpose and nothing else matters.

Work, expand, Worship, repeat.

Until everything is Gem.

[up][up][up]You wanna sympathetic-a-size the bad guys?

[up]We don't know how all gems fuse, dancing is the CG's way of synchronization.

edited 29th Apr '16 3:00:01 PM by randomness4

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xanderiskander Since: Mar, 2012
#30460: Apr 29th 2016 at 2:59:30 PM

Well, when the rubies fused in The Answer they didn't dance, neither did Garnet when they first fused,really.

Jasper and Lapis fusing is the only odd one out when it comes to homeworld gems.

edited 29th Apr '16 3:00:13 PM by xanderiskander

Cailleach Studious Girl from Purgatory Since: Sep, 2015 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
Studious Girl
#30461: Apr 29th 2016 at 3:13:37 PM

[up][up] They did the same thing in Avatar and it worked beautifully. Not to mention it's much more realistic than Always Chaotic Evil

DeathsApprentice The Ultimate Lifeform from The Ark Since: Aug, 2011 Relationship Status: Is that a kind of food?
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#30463: Apr 29th 2016 at 3:19:23 PM

@Cail: I really do hope we get to see more of Gem culture, too. I definitely want the show to explore Homeworld at some point. I'd like to know what it's like to grow up a Gem on Homeworld, what their society is like, do they have a belief system, etc. It'd be cool to learn about.

When we're done, there won't be anything left.
xanderiskander Since: Mar, 2012
#30464: Apr 29th 2016 at 3:21:13 PM

Well, to begin with, there is no "growing up" in gem culture. You pop out of the ground, full grown. Maybe someone trains you, maybe not, but either way, you're born, and you do your job.

edited 29th Apr '16 3:30:22 PM by xanderiskander

DeathsApprentice The Ultimate Lifeform from The Ark Since: Aug, 2011 Relationship Status: Is that a kind of food?
The Ultimate Lifeform
#30465: Apr 29th 2016 at 3:29:11 PM

I knew that, I just wasn't sure what word to use instead. I guess, "what it's like to be trained/raised on Homeworld" is more what I meant.

When we're done, there won't be anything left.
randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Ghost '11
#30466: Apr 29th 2016 at 3:30:31 PM

[up]x5 If they can manage to believeably show a side to HW Gems that isn't just Work, expand, Worship...then maybe, I'll agree.

Randomness is still neutral.

edited 29th Apr '16 3:31:00 PM by randomness4

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xanderiskander Since: Mar, 2012
#30467: Apr 29th 2016 at 3:34:15 PM

Gem society obviously seems like an allegory for Monarchy in general, the British Empire and the American Revolutionary War to me, with maybe a dash of Communism and 1984 mixed in. Their society is ruled by a monarch who is seen as god-like, and all powerful, that the Crystal Gems want to get away from. Only their brand of Monarchy is much more extreme, bureaucratic, and modernized. And the Crystal gems rebelling seems to be inspired by the revolutionary war, only on a galactic scale.

edited 29th Apr '16 3:44:36 PM by xanderiskander

randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Ghost '11
#30468: Apr 29th 2016 at 4:03:18 PM

Can it really be called Galactic scale if it's just about one planet?

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xanderiskander Since: Mar, 2012
#30469: Apr 29th 2016 at 4:07:58 PM

Well, yeah. When they're coming from somewhere else in the galaxy that isn't Earth. Intergalactic would be better phrasing I guess.

hcobb Since: Jan, 2001
#30470: Apr 29th 2016 at 4:10:01 PM

The backstory that would illuminate a lot of how HW works would be Pearl's but she's sitting on a Yuge secret so doesn't talk about her past at all.

Cailleach Studious Girl from Purgatory Since: Sep, 2015 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
Studious Girl
#30471: Apr 29th 2016 at 6:35:43 PM

I spent a lot of time in my chem lab staring at the hazard diamond, and they’re staying very true to the metaphor so far. Somethings under the yellow diamond include “unstable,” “explosive,” and the most interesting, “May detonate if shocked or heated.” YD was pretty shocked by what Peridot said to her, and then detonated the communicator. The Blue Diamond warns against things that are toxic and instructs that people wear googles or face masks at all times. And BD and her subjects all cover their eyes.

The red diamond (or Pink Diamond) warns against flammability. One of the reasons I can’t really see Rose and Pink Diamond is because I can’t see her fitting that metaphor. And if they start pulling out of nowhere that she’s associated with fire somehow it would seem a bit forced. The one way I could see that working is if they went with combustion. "Requires moderate heating to ignite" Rose had too much of Homeworld's shit so she combusted and started a rebellion. Maybe, I don't know. Time will tell I guess.

I can’t wait to see what they do with this metaphor. It will make the 3-6 hour chem labs I have more exciting.

edited 29th Apr '16 7:22:16 PM by Cailleach

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DeathsApprentice The Ultimate Lifeform from The Ark Since: Aug, 2011 Relationship Status: Is that a kind of food?
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#30473: Apr 29th 2016 at 7:10:02 PM

6 hour chem labs? And I thought my 5 hour bio labs were long. O_O

When we're done, there won't be anything left.
Cailleach Studious Girl from Purgatory Since: Sep, 2015 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
Studious Girl
#30474: Apr 29th 2016 at 7:21:09 PM

[up][up] The white diamond is for specific types of hazards. It's like the miscellaneous list. The main ones being that the chemical is an oxidizer, an acid, an alkali, corrosive, cannot make contact with water, or emits radiation. I have no idea what to make from that one since the all of those warnings are so different from each other.

edited 29th Apr '16 7:22:49 PM by Cailleach

thatother1dude from Land of the Ill, Annoyin' Since: Jan, 2001
#30475: Apr 29th 2016 at 9:14:47 PM

Funny, last time I brought up the fire diamond I was pointing out that I didn't see any resemblance (P.S. the fire diamond has also been out of date with international codes for a couple years).


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