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AdricDePsycho Rock on, Gold Dust Woman from Never Going Back Again Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
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#30301: Apr 25th 2016 at 2:32:48 PM

I highly doubt the Crewniverse would do that. Yellow Diamond is being built up as the ultimate evil here, so her being reformed or something just makes no sense.

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randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Ghost '11
#30302: Apr 25th 2016 at 2:35:32 PM

Steven didn't really reform Lapis...she's got nowhere to turn to other than the CG. Only because Steven is apart of them, the only person to treat her nicely...

Home World is a no go, the times have changed and she apparently can't adjust.

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AdricDePsycho Rock on, Gold Dust Woman from Never Going Back Again Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
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#30303: Apr 25th 2016 at 2:37:48 PM

I mean, we already know that Homeworld is completely fucked up. Why should we be worried of them "reforming" if they've been shown to be pretty damn evil?

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randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Ghost '11
#30304: Apr 25th 2016 at 2:43:37 PM

We don't know much about the common gem...so, maybe we could get a little more info about the world and how people act there. We've seen prejudice and not else.

It'd be like the reverse of what Avatar:TLA did with its antagonist group, it makes you hate them even more.

edited 25th Apr '16 2:44:21 PM by randomness4

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darkabomination Since: Mar, 2012
#30305: Apr 25th 2016 at 2:46:22 PM

The Diamonds, not the society as a whole. We still know very little about them though.

I hesitate to call them pure evil if only because they're still shrouded in mystery. It's a very safe bet they are, but I don't think we can be sure yet, not when Rose's own past is unexplored.

My guess is it'll take the Mother series route. The villains create their own hell from which there is no escape out of their own evil deeds.

hcobb Since: Jan, 2001
#30306: Apr 25th 2016 at 2:58:26 PM

wild mass guessSap's limits had not been tested because the evil empire discourages expressions of free will and creativity.

PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
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#30307: Apr 25th 2016 at 3:25:04 PM

Even Jasper still has yet to show any redeemable qualities whatsoever.

randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Ghost '11
#30308: Apr 25th 2016 at 3:27:48 PM

...and that's good don't ya know?

Irredeemable villains are the way of the future.

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Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
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#30310: Apr 25th 2016 at 3:32:13 PM

Sometimes, villains who stay villains are good. I've said before, if Jasper must be 'redeemed' the most I see is her graduating to Anti-Villain. I could see some sympathy somehow thrown the Diamonds way, and I'll be surprised if the theoretical Pink/Blood Diamond turns out to have been evil all along, but I don't see any more than one, maybe, being turned good.

Collen the cutest lizard from it is a mystery Since: Dec, 2010
the cutest lizard
#30311: Apr 25th 2016 at 3:42:15 PM

My prediction is that the Diamonds (or at least Yellow Diamond, who's the only one who's really been shown so far) will be exiled forever, but not killed, because that doesn't strike me as something Steven would allow, even if the Diamonds are really evil.

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Cailleach Studious Girl from Purgatory Since: Sep, 2015 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
Studious Girl
#30312: Apr 25th 2016 at 3:44:08 PM

Even if the Diamonds do get "redeemed," that doesn't mean they should get a Starlight Glimmer treatment and just be absolved of all their crimes. In real life, even if a person does feel truly guilty and wants to be a better person, that doesn't just absolve them of all the crimes they committed. They still have go to jail. Their slate isn't wiped clean just because they're redeemed now.

edited 25th Apr '16 3:51:00 PM by Cailleach

randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Ghost '11
#30313: Apr 25th 2016 at 3:46:06 PM

Or...maybe he lets the CG break the Diamonds because he grows.

The true right of passage in cartoon hero-hood is realizing when to shatter someone.

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DeathsApprentice The Ultimate Lifeform from The Ark Since: Aug, 2011 Relationship Status: Is that a kind of food?
The Ultimate Lifeform
#30314: Apr 25th 2016 at 4:20:11 PM

I'm expecting that the Diamonds will end up shattered, most likely. I really can't see them as redeemed. Layered and three-dimensional, definitely. But not redeemed.

When we're done, there won't be anything left.
xanderiskander Since: Mar, 2012
#30315: Apr 25th 2016 at 4:25:43 PM

Honestly the best outcome I can see happening is them giving up, and letting the Crystal Gems keep Earth unharmed. If they spent time liberating homeworld from their control it would become a very different show.

edited 25th Apr '16 4:27:39 PM by xanderiskander

randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Ghost '11
#30316: Apr 25th 2016 at 4:30:55 PM

That sounds like the premise for a sequel.

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Funny but not helpful
#30317: Apr 25th 2016 at 4:33:56 PM

Steven Universe and the Homeworld Rebels

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darkabomination Since: Mar, 2012
#30318: Apr 25th 2016 at 4:53:48 PM

Well, then you'd just get the spinoff Steven Wars Rebels where Connie will show up as a supreme badass after being missing for years, duel wielding a new set of swords.

honeyishrunkmyself Since: Mar, 2014 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
#30319: Apr 25th 2016 at 5:11:26 PM

Honestly the best outcome I can see happening is them giving up, and letting the Crystal Gems keep Earth unharmed. If they spent time liberating homeworld from their control it would become a very different show.
This is what i don't want to happen, if that happens, then the diamonds become full on Karma Houdinis, it would also probably cause steven universe to gain a huge reputation for Ending Aversion. In my opinion, as against the rest of the show's themes as it is, the only way its ending well is if the Diamonds get completely overthrown imo.

hcobb Since: Jan, 2001
#30320: Apr 25th 2016 at 5:50:36 PM

Blowing up a few death stars won't cut it. Steven must liberate all gems everywhere.

randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Ghost '11
#30321: Apr 25th 2016 at 6:01:54 PM

Because...if that doesn't happen, the cycle could restart in reverse.

With any Gems off homeworld becoming the new rebels, meeting up on any Gem controlled planet that may have been overlooked during the liberation ceremony. These rebel gems didn't get the memo and now think everyone else is mind controlled. They plan to take it back.

Starting yet another war.

edited 25th Apr '16 6:03:36 PM by randomness4

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xanderiskander Since: Mar, 2012
#30322: Apr 25th 2016 at 6:03:23 PM

My thing is the only way an ending, where they overthrow them would work is if they basically kill them. Because exiling them or bubbling them doesn't stop them from coming back some day, and taking over again. Which as you said goes against the show's themes, so I don't think they'll do that.

And it's questionable whether poofing a Diamond is possible in the first place.

The only other type of ending I can see them doing is one similar to the film Enemy Mine, but I can't see them making that work either. Unlike the Dracs the Diamonds don't have any reason like traditions, or family to sympathize with Steven. Even if he is half gem. Actually, exactly because of that. He'd be an abomination in their eyes.

edited 25th Apr '16 6:09:59 PM by xanderiskander

Collen the cutest lizard from it is a mystery Since: Dec, 2010
the cutest lizard
#30323: Apr 25th 2016 at 6:09:32 PM

I dunno, I think it would be possible to exile the Diamonds somewhere in space where they can't come back. Unless one of them is capable of flight or something.

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xanderiskander Since: Mar, 2012
#30324: Apr 25th 2016 at 6:12:33 PM

What's stopping a gem who sympathizes with them from busting them out and taking over the universe again? There's no shortage of gems who would.

Heck they created a whole society. They could do it again. They might not even need to leave their new planet.

edited 25th Apr '16 6:15:40 PM by xanderiskander

Ruise Nyanpasu~ from your subconscious Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: It's not my fault I'm not popular!
Nyanpasu~
#30325: Apr 25th 2016 at 6:21:58 PM

Honestly the best outcome I can see happening is them giving up, and letting the Crystal Gems keep Earth unharmed. If they spent time liberating homeworld from their control it would become a very different show.

I agree.

Loves feel-good animation a whole lot.

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