Steven Universe

So, if Spinel was standing in the garden in her original form, then she heard the announcement about Steven, do you think she caused physical harm to herself and had to reform?

Also, I don't know if it's been pointed out, but I'm pretty sure original model Spinel's hair hearts are "Mickey Mouse ears" that are always facing the screen at the same angle, even when they shouldn't be.

Edited by WillKeaton on Sep 20th 2019 at 2:42:48 AM

I actually read a fancomic yesterday with the idea that Spinel initially tried to shatter herself in her grief over Pink abandoning her, but accidentally just poofed herself instead. Imma go find it...

Edit: Here it is!

And to offset the angst and hurt/comfort, here's a funny comic based off a scene from Spongebob.

Edited by Crossover-Enthusiast on Sep 20th 2019 at 5:23:26 AM

It has been pointed out...

I know that ALMOST NO ONE cares about the various Steven Universe dubs like I do, but... Steven Universe The Movie IS FINALLY DUBBED, in LATIN AMERICAN SPANISH! Yay! Oh and Steven has a new voice actor.

Also, did Spinel slice Peridot's memories away? She's extremely and oddly calm about the death of all organic life on earth...

Edited by AegisP on Sep 20th 2019 at 6:27:28 AM

No - but there is a joke about Peridot "losing her character development" because she touched the rejuvenator.

I dunno know how Peri's VA handled those scenes in the dub, but she kinda flips flops between "oddly nonchalant" and "freaking the hell out" about the whole "bio-poison slowly killing the Earth" thing.

Edited by Crossover-Enthusiast on Sep 20th 2019 at 9:30:51 AM

I had that complaint when I heard the line in the trailer of the original version. And Sofia Narvaez doesnt deviate at all in the dubbed trailer.

She doesn't flip-flop, she barely reacts to the threat at all.

Her most exaggerated reaction is from touching the scythe thing...

Then whenever referring to the injector she's only ever slightly distressed.

I interpreted Peridot as clinical rather than disinterested here. She’s clearly putting a lot of effort into making sure everyone doesn’t die.

"Reformed" makes it pretty obvious that gems sometimes have to deliberately get themselves poofed so they aren't stuck with a messed up default form. We just only saw it once with Pink/Rose because gems casually hurting (or appearing to hurt) themselves and their friends is very sketchy content-wise.

At first I assumed Spinel specifically could change her default form at will (or even unconsciously), or else hold any shapeshifted form indefinitely, because she's a Rubber Man. But the way she glowed just like the others when her memories were restored makes me think Spinel was poofed at some point after, either deliberately or by coincidence.

Edited by thatother1dude on Sep 21st 2019 at 12:09:10 PM

I think she just changed involuntarily without poofing due to her gem being in a different location.

Quick question; during Spinel's breakdown near the end of the movie, did you hear "I just wanna be a friend" or I just wanna be your friend"? There's a little spat going on in the YMMV page for the movie over the wording and I'm trying to figure out which it is.

Edited by Crossover-Enthusiast on Sep 21st 2019 at 5:59:56 AM

Subtitles say "a friend."

It wouldn't make sense if she said "your friend"...

I'm suppose to be a friend —-> I just wanna be a friend

Makes way more sense than the alternative, for real...

An interesting video. I'll say that I obviously don't agree with his conclusion, buuuuut I understand how he came to it and think he explained it well.

I will say this, it didn't ruin the show for me, but I still hate White's redemption especially. I said it in the Complete Monster Clean-up thread: She would have made a fantastic one. I have similar problems with Vaders redemption (although I know he's not a Complete Monster).

At least Vader hasn't been forgiven by anyone outside of Luke and he still went down in the in-universe history of the Star Wars verse as a monster instead of a redeemed hero. (At least in new canon).

That's actually my biggest problem. While the expanded universe doesn't forgive him, the in-universe spirit of the universe sort of does. Wow that last sentence was a mouthful. Anyways he gets a force-ghost, which I don't feel he deserved.

I agree. Vader getting a force ghost is my pet peeve as well.

Has anyone else noticed the amount of hate that Steven’s been getting for how he acts in the movie?

I’ve seen a lot people saying that he was being pretty callous and selfish throughout most of film and he should been more empathetic towards Spinel’s feelings much sooner, particularly in the scene where he gets her to stop the injector and he starts tending to all of his other friends while turning his back on Spinel.

Edited by deuteragonist on Sep 22nd 2019 at 8:36:24 AM

I thought that was the point.

You mean injector? Honestly, I don't hold that against him since the misunderstanding stemmed from Spinel and he was doing his best to explain.

By doing his best, you mean...doing the bare minimum.

It's totally fine though, it was one day and things were getting progressively more tiresome for him.

And I mean... She literally killed and locked away the memories of his family and took away the powers he worked so hard to obtain, in addition to her reset self mostly just bugging him with her antics. If I was in Steven's shoes, I would've yelled at her to leave way before "Independent Together".

Edited by Crossover-Enthusiast on Sep 22nd 2019 at 12:38:56 PM

ftfy

I suppose it's a drawback to being an All-Loving Hero that people judge you more harshly in the moments you actually act like a normal human being.

But even then, I'm not sure what's supposed to be particularly callous about Steven celebrating thinking they've saved the world and wanting to get back to helping his friends. Literally nothing about what he said or did implied he was just going to forget about Spinel.