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KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#59301: Sep 17th 2019 at 1:04:57 AM

wild mass guessSugilite reappears, with a running gag that every time she says a line a lawyer shows up and hands her a briefcase full of cash. Halfway through the episode the cash flow dries up, and Sugilite vanishes mid-line.wild mass guess

"The difference between reality and fiction is that fiction has to make sense." - Tom Clancy, paraphrasing Mark Twain.
Pachylad (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#59302: Sep 17th 2019 at 5:11:27 AM

wild mass guessSugilite will now be voiced by Cardi Bwild mass guess

Edit: also goodbye 'Pearl is abandoned instead of Spinel AU', 'Spinel and the Pearls in Chuck E Cheese as humans AU' is my new fave (trash) AU

Edited by Pachylad on Sep 17th 2019 at 10:25:23 PM

unknowing from somewhere.. Since: Mar, 2014
#59303: Sep 17th 2019 at 8:33:11 AM

[up][up]sugulite Is a good example of that, on the other Hand malachite Is pretty much Jasper but harder.

"Pink could be awfully self centered throughout her entire life but she rarely was intentionally cruel."

At some point it dosent matter, specially when Steven deal with it.

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Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#59304: Sep 17th 2019 at 8:41:25 AM

That’s true

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MrSeyker Since: Apr, 2011
#59305: Sep 17th 2019 at 9:42:27 AM

It does matter, though.

Pink is a disaster of a person, but people act as if she is actively malicious.

And despite all her many mistakes, she still did good things that left a mark on the entire cast.

The entire show is built on Pinks legacy, the good and the bad.

randomness4 Snow Ghost from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Snow Ghost
#59306: Sep 17th 2019 at 10:08:28 AM

She's not actively malicious?

Well, that's a new one.

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sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
#59307: Sep 17th 2019 at 11:12:20 AM

It really is, given how the majority of her actions were basically well meaning.

Edited by sgamer82 on Sep 17th 2019 at 12:22:57 PM

LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#59308: Sep 17th 2019 at 7:02:41 PM

Finally got around to watching the movie. It was good, not all of the logistics made sense but that's just sort of a given with Steven Universe.

thatother1dude Ready to see true darkness from Land of the Ill, Annoyin' Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: In Lesbians with you
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#59309: Sep 17th 2019 at 7:30:01 PM

Thing is, at that point in her life, who did Pink care about as a person? You could argue she didn't regard anyone like that until Greg forced the idea down her throat.
Pink clearly cared about the other diamonds, and even used to respect them, even if she didn't understand their feelings very well.

And she can't remember her line on two occasions, so I guess that the fact that she's forgetful is actually canon and the Heaven Beetle incident wasn't just a one-off thing.
As Bocaj referenced, it was Guide to the Crystal Gems that first specified forgetfulness as a habit, not just a single incident.

randomness4 Snow Ghost from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Snow Ghost
#59310: Sep 17th 2019 at 7:38:15 PM

She cared about her original Pearl...apparently.

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galienus Since: Sep, 2019
#59311: Sep 18th 2019 at 3:31:18 PM

[up]I hope this. Because they are not doing themselves a favor when they are trying to turn her in the Black Zetsu of this show.

However i find it a bit strange that Pink Pearl was nowhere to be seen. In an recent Interview Rebecca Sugar said in this movie is an easter egg for the question why CG Pearl is not the OG Pearl. Whatever that was it was not the OG Pearl having a cameo.

thatother1dude Ready to see true darkness from Land of the Ill, Annoyin' Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: In Lesbians with you
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#59312: Sep 18th 2019 at 5:16:15 PM

However i find it a bit strange that Pink Pearl was nowhere to be seen.
The movie was pretty light on the supporting cast, and if Pink Pearl wasn't still working for the diamonds, there's no reason we would see her like we saw Blue Pearl and Yellow Pearl.

In an recent Interview Rebecca Sugar said in this movie is an easter egg for the question why CG Pearl is not the OG Pearl.
I don't even understand what you're saying, much less remember what interview you could be talking about.

randomness4 Snow Ghost from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Snow Ghost
#59313: Sep 18th 2019 at 5:21:49 PM

Spinel is the reason why CG Pearl isn't Pink Pearl.

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#59314: Sep 18th 2019 at 7:01:54 PM

[up][up] They're referring to this interview, where Rebecca says the name of Pearl's reboot song has a hint of lore in it.

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#59315: Sep 18th 2019 at 7:05:37 PM

It's called "system/boot.pearl_final(3).info". Maybe the "3" implies that our Pearl was Pink's third Pearl?

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#59317: Sep 18th 2019 at 7:11:04 PM

Think we'll ever hear from the humans from the Zoo again?

KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#59318: Sep 18th 2019 at 7:29:33 PM

[up][up][up] Greg would be the third time, so it’d be White (1) -> Pink (2) -> Greg (3).

"The difference between reality and fiction is that fiction has to make sense." - Tom Clancy, paraphrasing Mark Twain.
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thatother1dude Ready to see true darkness from Land of the Ill, Annoyin' Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: In Lesbians with you
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#59320: Sep 18th 2019 at 8:34:20 PM

Rebecca says the name of Pearl's reboot song has a hint of lore in it.
She said that the "movie indirectly tells you that reason [why Pearl isn’t the original Pink Pearl]". No mention is made of the song's name.

My best guess is that Sugar is talking about Pearl's "boot" sequence: she asks for customization, but the default was the same look Pearl sported when she worked for Pink. If you think about it, that really raises a lot of questions—primarily "Why is that the default?" and "Why did she work for Pink Diamond with default settings?" I'll get back to you when I think of the possibilities.

That Pearls imprint on the first person they hear might also be significant, especially since it raises the question of how one's service might be transferred without a rejuvenator.

Greg would be the third time, so it’d be White (1) -> Pink (2) -> Greg (3).
Sugar said last SDCC that "Our Pearl never belonged to White, but White is involved in the creation of Pearls in general, so there is a connection."

Another thing from that same interview:

I want to give just enough information to keep pulling the curtain back, little by little. There are things about Gems that even Gems don’t understand. But we do, as we’re writing the show.
I can only think of a few things we've seen gems discover about themselves as a species that aren't related to Steven's hybrid nature:
  • Fusion is possible even across caste lines.
  • Gem shards can be merged together to form a single body and possibly a single mind.
  • Gems sometimes have powers they weren't designed to have at all.

(Let me know if you can think of more.)

Think we'll ever hear from the humans from the Zoo again?
I'm sure we'll find out what happened to them, even if they don't make an extended appearance.

Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
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#59321: Sep 18th 2019 at 8:37:58 PM

My theory as of this second is that after having her original Pearl taken away, Pink Diamond didn't bother customizing her Pearl because she was bummed and initially didn't want to get attached.

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thatother1dude Ready to see true darkness from Land of the Ill, Annoyin' Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: In Lesbians with you
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#59322: Sep 19th 2019 at 2:34:30 PM

[up]That may well be true, but if so, it’s probably not what Sugar was talking about.

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#59323: Sep 19th 2019 at 3:36:14 PM

New clip from the documentary, talking about Spinel and her relation to "Everything Stays". It was completely accidental, and Rebecca only realized she based Spinel's backstory off her old stuffed rabbit while drawing her in the garden.

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Pachylad (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#59324: Sep 19th 2019 at 5:45:21 PM

I'd add that Rebecca Sugar dropping hints about how Pink Pearl's backstory is tangentially touched upon in this movie may actually provide a more sympathetic layer to her abandoning Spinel: she knew what happened previously when someone got too close to her, and this was partially her (obviously flawed, both with hindsight and in the moment) way of trying to prevent Spinel from the same fate.

It obviously doesn't excuse it, and doesn't give a full explanation either for those 6000 years, but hey.

LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#59325: Sep 19th 2019 at 8:19:01 PM

I don't know how many other people it came off this way to, but to me it very much seemed like the Diamonds are still in power, even if Steven got them to be nicer about it.

Which leaves me to ask: how do you feel about that?

Edited by LSBK on Sep 19th 2019 at 10:20:43 AM


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