Steven Universe

The reactions are...only because PD told her to stay at the garden.

Clearly she understands her status very well.

Also there were no consequences.

I don't think Pink understands her commands are binding.

I thought commands were only actually binding for pearls.

Gems don't necessarily need a binding order when they're already prepared to follow what their leaders order,with Pearl it was different and it was something Pink had to issue as an order because even though Pink knows Pearl would never betray her she couldn't take chances

It wasn't an order, PD specifically said it was a game...

Spinner would've certainly fell into despair much quicker if she was simply ordered to stay there.

It's all good.

Much different from Pearl's dilemma.

She interpreted it as an order that's the important thing to remember and makes her all the more tragic

Maybe PD told her she would come back eventually...

Multiply the reasons for her despair.

As far as I understand, the reason why Garnet never asks any question is that Rose Quartz told her when they met: "No more questions! Don't ever question who you are." And since she was actually Pink Diamond, Garnet (not knowingly, but subconsciously) obeyed her command and did not ask any questions for nearly 6000 years.

But Ruby and Sapphire were under Blue Diamond, not Pink. She'd have no reign over them.

Only Pearls are actually compelled to follow orders, and even then only when it comes to their direct owner.

The thing about Spinel is that she was created for the sole purpose of making Pink happy

So when Pink suggested a new game of standing still and not moving until she gets back and smiled when Spinel agreed, Spinel was doomed. She wouldn’t do anything at that point to intentionally make Pink unhappy

Of course it’s up for debate how much Pink understood this. She may have thought Spinel would eventually get bored or anxious and leave or use the communicator

This isn’t like Pink left Spinel locked in a toy chest. There was a warp and there was a phone direct to the Diamonds.

Pink could be awfully self centered throughout her entire life but she rarely was intentionally cruel. Usually just oblivious to the impact and power she had because she felt like the kid Diamond not realizing that the kid Diamond is still a Diamond

(Makes you wonder how much say Pink Pearl had in all the pranks that eventually got her bleached though)

If orders were truly that binding than Peridot wouldnt be able to rebel against Yellow.

The takeaway from the whole Pink thing for me was that she never actually cared about Spinel as a person and that alone is worth some scrutiny in my opinion.

Thing is, at that point in her life, who did Pink care about as a person? You could argue she didn't regard anyone like that until Greg forced the idea down her throat.

She did care about people in the abstract otherwise she wouldn’t have started the rebellion

Pink didn't really start seeing the lower class Gems as people with lives that matter until becoming Rose, meeting Garnet and her revelations about Pearl.

If Ruby and Pearl are any indication, the lowest class gems that are made specifically to serve don't see themselves as people with lives either. Several thousand years of betrayal traumatized Spinel into throwing that away.

Which, hey, means Pink was still helping Gems self actualize even when it was by being awful.

Edited by KnownUnknown on Sep 16th 2019 at 9:08:55 AM

Abstract, yes, but my question is more about regarding them as individuals, as people. The earliest they seems to have possibly happened was meeting Garnet, as it changed the focus of her quest. But Greg made her realize she was still not acknowledging people around her when she should have been.

I was just talking about the Spinel thing specifically but yeah you're right.

To be precise, Greg made her realize that people could/should change and grow and relate to themselves and others in even greater ways than before - not just humans, but even Gems like herself.

Even as free beings fighting against Homeworld, none of the Crystal Gems really saw themselves as beings capable of change, just of being content as who they were forever - with them fighting because "who they were" wasn't congruent with who Homeworld said they should be.

Which could also factor into it. Pink would have assumed Spinel would be fine even if she was alone, because why would she ever change?

Edited by KnownUnknown on Sep 16th 2019 at 9:13:05 AM

New Steven Universe Dove thingy. And it has Opal in it. And she can't remember her line on two occasions, so I guess that the fact that she's forgetful is actually canon and the Heaven Beetle incident wasn't just a one-off thing.

September has graced us with lots of good Opal content.

Now bring Sugilite back and let her speak dang it

Can't you see she's out of control and overzealous? I'm telling you for your own good and not because I'm...

I could see Spinel being in a PSA somehow,she reassembles a young child so it could work

I guess that's her Amethyst side. Pearl is usually anything but forgetful...

But re-hiring Nicki Minaj is, apparently, beyond their budget. Although there are probably many talented voice actors who can do a decent impression of her. Let's just hope it doesn't evolve into a "King Louie" case (i.e. the widow of Louis Prima sued Disney for Jim Cummings's King Louie impression).

Edited by Snicka on Sep 16th 2019 at 7:56:06 PM

Its apparently a combination trait.