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#58477: Jul 21st 2019 at 3:48:46 PM
With Arcade Mania I'm surprised the thing where a Gem is hypnotised hasn't come up again
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#58479: Jul 21st 2019 at 4:03:38 PM
Well she was in a trance like state anyway,super weird Gems were effected by that
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#58480: Jul 21st 2019 at 4:26:07 PM
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It was because of her Future Vision and the game being randomly generated. I think.
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#58481: Jul 21st 2019 at 5:59:03 PM
An endless rhythm game + future vision = Bad Time
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#58482: Jul 21st 2019 at 7:27:58 PM
SDCC panel stuff:
- A question for the panel brought up if Lapis resented Bismuth for poofing her. Sugar's reply (which implicitly confirmed that really was the same Bismuth) mentioned that neither has recognized the other since the incident: Lapis because she didn't see her attacker, Bismuth because she poofed so many OTHER Lapis Lazulis. Though Sugar also made it sound like Lapis wouldn't be particularly upset if she found out at this point.
- As implied by "Cry for Help", fusions only know the things their parts want to share with each other. Thus none of Pearl's fusions but Rainbow Quartz knew the truth about Pink Diamond.
- On the Crystal Gem Pearl's origins, Sugar gave a surprising bit of information before "watch and find out".
Our Pearl never belong to White, but White is involved in the creation of Pearls in general, so there is a connection. And that's all I can really say at the moment.
- Shelby Rabara did some foley for the movie.
- Stevonnie is capable of fusing with other gems, but Sugar doesn't they ever would.
- Steven's physical growth may have been influenced by his psychological growth in "Change Your Mind".
Edited by thatother1dude on Jul 21st 2019 at 9:28:12 AM
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#58483: Jul 21st 2019 at 7:42:31 PM
Interesting stuff in general. One minor nitpick:
which implicitly confirmed that really was the same Bismuth
This was in question? I mean, I guess it wasn't made explicit but as far as we know, Bismuth was the only Bismuth on the battlefield, period. Homeworld Bismuths aren't fighters, they make buildings, and Bismuth said she made all of the weapons for the Crystal Gems, heavily implying that there weren't any other Crystal Gem-aligned Bismuths.
Aside from that, it's interesting that Lapis Lazulis were apparently such frequent targets, but I guess it makes sense since their job was to use Earth's oceans to terraform the planet. Next to the Kindergartens, Lapis Lazulis were the greatest direct threat to the planet's ecosystem.
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#58484: Jul 21st 2019 at 7:47:01 PM
Bismuth said she made all of the weapons for the Crystal Gems, heavily implying that there weren't any other Crystal Gem-aligned Bismuths.
I thought that at first, but who says other Bismuths have to be blacksmiths? By Homeworld standards, it seems the Bismuth we know was considered a deviant for wanting to building anything besides architecture.
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#58485: Jul 21st 2019 at 8:53:58 PM
I guess that's fair. I mean, there's also the fact that the Bismuth who poofed Lapis and CG Bismuth look exactly the same, down to their gem position.
#58486: Jul 21st 2019 at 10:29:09 PM
Though Sugar also made it sound like Lapis wouldn't be particularly upset if she found out at this point.
There goes my theory that Lapis found out during the time skip and that's why Bismuth has a new outfit.
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#58487: Jul 22nd 2019 at 4:16:01 PM
Yeah, what's up with that?
Honestly, I hope with the possibility of Season 6 that they'll give Lapis, Bismuth, and Peridot more screentime. Also, more Lars, please (it's so weird how 3 years ago I would have never said that).
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#58488: Jul 22nd 2019 at 8:09:49 PM
There were a decent number of shots where they used the long-ranged character models even for moving characters that weren't very far away. Can anyone remember the last time the long-ranged models were used at all? Thinking it over, they may have stopped using them quite a long time ago.
Can't remember if this was pointed out to me previously, but Lars almost walks in front of Greg's van in the first opening. He really did almost die more than any other human.
Rewatch, day four:
Most of us know the series stays from Steven's viewpoint, but there are a few instances where it breaks from it. It's rare enough that I think I'll start listing them as "Outside POV".
So Many Birthdays
- Pearl starts the episode holding her nose with both hands.
- Pearl's voice can sound amazingly different at points. Especially when she says "Oh Steven. That is us!"
- Garnet's voice acting can also be pretty different. She often sounds outright-robotic, whereas even her reserved moments later on had a sort of coy energy.
- Steven's birthday song actually mentions that a gem's body "is an illusion" before this is shown to us three episodes later. Apparently, he had some idea about how gems' bodies worked even if he didn't know they could regenerate.
- I can't tell what dirtbag-teenager Steven's voice is: Callison making his regular voice super-scratchy, or trying to make it sound like Steven is doing a ridiculous teenager voice. He was already around fifteen by the time he recorded this episode, but probably got the role partly by sounding younger. Professional Beach Hunk sounds the closest to a natural voice.
- Is "Will you help me into my birthday suit?" still the most flagrantly dirty joke the show has made?
- It is amazing how many different stages of old age Steven went through—his beard kept getting longer and longer. What was he by the end, 140?
- This is, if not the best season 1a episodes, probably the one with the most memorable/quotable scenes.
Lars and the Cool Kids
- Holy crap, I totally forgot one of the storyboard artists for this episode (Matt Braly) was the creator of Amphibia. This was at the point where the position as Lamar Abrams' storyboarding partner was still in flux (Aleth Romanillos and Luke Weber also just boarded a few episodes each, though the former stayed on as a revisionist and character designer).
- Outside POV: While Steven is introducing himself to the Cool Kids, we hear Lars muttering to himself that Steven will ruin everything (before pretending he's calm when Steven talks to him).
- The show seemed to have extras interacting with characters more often early on.
- Bucks voice is so high.
- Lars and Steven totally pull a hit-and-run. Although that truck really should have stopped immediately, not just once the danger cleared.
Onion Trade
- This is the first of the four episodes I remember were storyboarded by a single artist (Lamar Abrams in this case).
- Surprisingly, it's fifteen episodes in and Greg's only making his third appearance.
- It may be unintentional, but the pile of Dave Guys seems like an apt parody of a lot of gacha games.
- Steven mentions his Ranger Guy was unique for having a miscolored hat. Yet he didn't notice that the one Onion carries has a white hat, unlike the black one in the portrait on the machine.
- Amethyst has a line about looking "for Pearl's dumb axe". Hmm.
- When speaking about OK, K.O., Ian Jones-Quartey mentioned Cartoon Network S&P has a rule against child characters (or was that any characters?) being next to realistically-colored fire. The scene where Onion stands right in front of a seemingly endless wall of flame presumably predates that rule.
- I find it sincerely amusing how well Onion fared against Garnet.
Steven the Sword Fighter
- Is Lonely Blade in-universe live-action or animated?
- Garnet's hair gets blown around again by Pearl and Holo-Pearl's Kung-Fu Sonic Boom (especially impressive given it was supporting Steven with minimal deformation).
- I crack up every time I notice Holo-Pearl's lips flapping approximately ten times as fast as what would match its word.
- Forgot Holo-Pearl mentioned actual letter-grade rankings which go up to at least "S". I'm trying to imagine her yelling "Smokin' Sick Style".
- "Two weeks later.", another rare use of overlaid text.
- Amethyst just took that cloud out of the arena and had it carry her around like Kinto'un.
- This episode had Iris Out as a scene transition. Besides the in-universe one from the "For Steven" tape, I can't recall that ever happening again.
There were a decent number of shots where they used the long-ranged character models even for moving characters that weren't very far away. Can anyone remember the last time the long-ranged models were used at all? Thinking it over, they may have stopped using them quite a long time ago.
Can't remember if this was pointed out to me previously, but Lars almost walks in front of Greg's van in the first opening. He really did almost die more than any other human.
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#58489: Jul 22nd 2019 at 9:14:32 PM
Let me drive my van over your heart... ♪
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#58490: Jul 22nd 2019 at 10:19:42 PM
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- Amethyst has a line about looking "for Pearl's dumb axe". Hmm.
Wait, why would that be a homopho- ohhh. Well, they do have great mass.
- I find it sincerely amusing how well Onion fared against Garnet.
That scene is one of the reasons I'm an advocate for training at least some of the humans. They could do some cool shit if they had proper practice!
- Is Lonely Blade in-universe live-action or animated?
I think it's an anime.
- Can anyone remember the last time the long-ranged models were used at all? Thinking it over, they may have stopped using them quite a long time ago.
They were used in a scene during "Back to the Kindergarten", if I recall. It's sad that they started using them less, as they really have a goofy-cute quality to them.
Edited by Crossover-Enthusiast on Jul 23rd 2019 at 6:18:13 AM
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#58491: Jul 22nd 2019 at 11:07:20 PM
Dumb axe, the way she said it makes it sound like "dumb ass"...
Pearl doesn't even play guitar.
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#58492: Jul 23rd 2019 at 6:09:24 PM
Rewatch, Day Five
Lion 2: The Movie
- "This February"? That's supposed to be a winter?
- How did Amethyst turn into a functioning boombox?
- Where did Lion find a Crystal Lizard?
- There's a pretty clear shift in Lion's behavior this episode onward, as it suddenly becomes clear he can perfectly understand human speech (whereas in "Steven's Lion" even going after the Desert Glass seemed more like instinct).
- I cannot tell if Connie is joking when she suggests cutting Steven's arm off.
- Besides Onion and some characters on TV, Jane (the ticket booth attendant) is the only human who shares a voice actor with a gem.
Beach Party
- This is the second of four episodes storyboarded by a single person (Lamar Abrams again).
- This is the only time someone actually complains to the gems about their property damage. Usually they either don't care, keep it to themselves, or somehow fail to notice who caused it.
- Garnet, Amethyst, and Pearl are really at peak rude in that first scene. At least Pearl gave Dewey some information about the power outage—here they literally treat Kofi as if he wasn't talking at all. They could have at least explained that Garnet "broke" the sign in the same way a brick smashes a window when someone throws it.
- "I've never seen this side of the beach before." Apparently most of Beach City don't even walk in front of the temple.
- The fashion magazine the Crystal Gems get their swimsuits from (FOINE) is not quite the same as the one Lars was reading in the nude (NOICE), but the name and font are clearly a callback—they even both have wristwatch adds on the back.
- Kofi is such a frogdad.
Rose's Room
- The Hyper Space ride and merry-go-round as Funland were first seen here in the room's simulation, long before we'd see them in detail at the end of season four.
- Amusing that Cloud Onion is almost completely in character—including that he refuses to eat (in front of Steven).
Coach Steven
- The rock shard that hits Steven in the head is much smaller than I remember (though it would pretty easily give a human a concussion).
- That scene with Sadie and Lars opening the jar is adorable. What's supposed to be in that jar, anyway? The label has a fish on it, but it looks like it's full of clumps of stuff.
- Lars' "Ya think?" is the only line he's ever said to Greg.
- Pearl really needs to learn not to talk/sing to herself when she's only walk like three feet away from other people.
Snow Ghost
#58493: Jul 23rd 2019 at 6:19:38 PM
3 Feet?
Stephen didn't even know she was singing until he went up to the house.
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#58494: Jul 23rd 2019 at 7:23:09 PM
Joe Johnston's picture of the heart gem.
Stephen didn't even know she was singing until he went up to the house.
Steven was on the deck, Pearl stepped inside and immediately started singing, and Steven was next shown still on the deck, hiding from Pearl underneath the window. Technically he could have gone up and down the stairs very quickly, but it was more likely he stayed the whole time to eavesdrop.
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#58495: Jul 23rd 2019 at 8:17:24 PM
Came out of hibernation to try my own take at the pink menace:
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#58496: Jul 24th 2019 at 5:12:03 PM
Rewatch, day six
Joking Victim
- What was Steven doing with that spigot at the beginning?
- "I can't run this place by myself!" She really couldn't.
- All of Mr. Smiley's mugging in the video is burned into my mind.
- "Wow, I'm impressed. Last time someone mentioned that song we couldn't get Mr. Smiley to go home."
- Surprised Sour Cream or Buck would congratulate Lars for lying to get out of work (though he left out that he was lying to his friend who'd be picking up the slack, not his boss).
- It's odd that Steven is the one trying to talk Sadie into getting revenge on Lars, even if he meant it to be harmless.
Sadie: What kind of person does that make you, if you try to hurt him back?
Steven: A... hero? - Again on the subject of fire, I can't tell if this was before that "no realistically-colored fire near children" rule, or if the kind of pink fire doesn't count.
- Mayor Dewey makes the only mention of a "Beach County".
- Amethyst was calling Lars "Donut guy" even back then. I guess the only characters who knew Sadie or Lars' names from the start were their families, Steven, and maybe Greg.
Steven and the Stevens
- Apparently, the time hourglass can't just travel both time and space, it can tell how far back in time an event you describe is.
- The first two Stevens apparently used the hourglass to reach the third, but didn't have to—there was already another Steven heading toward It's a Wash from the Beach House.
- This is the third, and I believe last, episode with out-of-universe text that isn't credits (the "Steven and the Stevens" cards and a The End title card).
- I wonder if the Stevens talking in unison is just a desynced layering effect or from combining multiple takes.
- Steven's lucky that when he said "Take me back to the beginning.", he wasn't sent back to the beginning of time or something.
- Strange that Pearl freaks out at the Stevens at the end, but not the half-dozen that went back to the end of "Gem Glow".
Monster Buddies
- Pearl is amazingly insulting toward Centipeetle, considering she knows "its" origins ("He's even managed to pop a bubble, and let out that awful... thing!").
- Gotta wonder why corrupted gems like food even if they're Homeworld gems that likely never tasted anything. But I guess you could also wonder why some look like animals.
- Shooting acid indiscriminately is really a low point in terms of Steven's judgement.
- Centipeetle really takes a beating. Even gets little 'x' pupils.
An Indirect Kiss
- Why would Connie have pink-shaded glasses?
- We actually see what happens to something that covers a Warp Pad when someone warps in: it gets blown away. Thinking about it, there really must be some sort of safety to keep that from happening to people, otherwise it would be happening constantly when these things were in regular use.
- Pearl puts his hand on her mouth, though only in response to her words accidentally causing Amethyst to damage her gem more.
- I like to think Garnet and Pearl actually thanked Steven for getting Amethyst into the fountain.
- Weirdly, Steven's spit didn't seem to take effect until Connie told him he didn't need powers to be with her, long after she came in contact with it. Now is that that because he just unlocked the power, or because he used it intentionally every other time?
Edited by thatother1dude on Jul 24th 2019 at 7:16:51 AM
#58497: Jul 24th 2019 at 7:51:22 PM
- Why would Connie have pink-shaded glasses?
Rose-tinted glasses symbolism, I imagine.
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Snow Ghost
#58498: Jul 24th 2019 at 8:46:45 PM
Desynched audio makes more sense, since...it doesn't actually sound different.
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#58499: Jul 25th 2019 at 6:12:31 PM
Rose-tinted glasses symbolism, I imagine.
I mean why would she own them? An extra pair of colored prescription glasses seem like something that would cost a lot of money to work worse than your regular ones.
(Out of universe, I think the main reason would be so you can tell the difference when she removes the lenses.)
Rewatch, Day Seven
Mirror Gem/Ocean Gem
- Lars is quite a Casanova Wannabe in this episode alone. Either it's just something no one felt like writing again, or he took Sadie shoving him into the water over it to heart.
- I'm still amused every time I realize a major character was just accidentally stored inside Pearl's gem for years.
- It's weird thinking about how much of Steven and Lapis' relationship is based on a period where one of them had no voice or face.
- "Say Uncle" exaggerated it, but Pearl, Garnet, and Amethyst can be real freaking trigger happy. Maybe they got reliant on Rose reigning them in.
- Wonder if Lapis remembers Sadie, Dewey, or Lars as the people she imitated.
- Nothing else like that water geometry happens again. Unless you count Peridot's Escape Pod and the Red Eye leaving diamond-shaped landing marks.
- Lapis is pretty ready to accept that Steven is a "gem", even though she knows he looks like a human (which she tried to use to protect him against Jasper). Maybe she thought he was an off-color?
- Lapis' first water arm is way more detailed (in this case muscular) than any of her other water constructs that weren't imitating a person.
- The show really never gives a decent reason why the Crystal Gems never realized the mirror was sapient.
- There are credits between these episodes, like most of the Two Part Episodes, but unlike "The Return/Jail Break".
- Garnet names Lapis as the cause of the ocean's disappearance, and Pearl shows the whole town what she looks like. Now did the townsfolk decide not to hold it against her because the Crystal Gems fixed everything, or just forgot she ever did anything?
- Outside POV: Greg plays music for Garnet, Amethyst, and Pearl while Steven is outside the van on Lion.
- Interesting that "one of Rose's favorite" tracks is discordant jam rock.
- Before Amethyst interrupted her, Pearl may have been ready to reveal even more than the corrupted gems going by the "Always fighting gems" comment (the war was certainly a lot more relevant to Lapis than the gem monsters).
- Lapis can repeat Steven's voice even outside the mirror. Not surprising given what she showed she could do in "Same Old World", but easy to forget.
- Lapis trying to smother Connie and Steven is especially disturbing when you consider she had to learn people needed to breathe.
- Steven getting his healing powers was conveniently timed, but if he didn't the only difference would be Lapis making a trip to the fountain.
- Lion's portal power looks completely different when he and Connie go up to grab Steven—it looks more like they're directly teleporting.
House Guest
- The trip back to shore was possibly hours long. Why on Earth didn't Steven heal Greg then and avoid the risk of worsening injuries by moving him?
- On that note, why did Greg not go the hospital? Seriously, duct tape?
- Steven appears to have grilled ham steaks. I can't think of any other work of fiction that have shown that particular item of food.
- I wish I could wipe oil off myself as neatly as Pearl does.
- One wonders why the gems bother endangered themselves by getting near the geode. Is it near something populated/important, or would the storm is releases just be that huge?
- They really manage to make hands covered in spit cute-looking.
- This is the only episode I can think of that ends with non-star Iris Out (though in "Ocean Gem" it changes to a different kind of star last-second).
Space Race
- Steven really didn't know the gems were from space before, did he? Greg did, though.
- Oh wait, this is one more episode with overlaid text ("Universe & Universe's Universal Space Travel HQ"). And I guess I was forgetting "Onion Trade" and a few other Imagine Spot-based ones.
- Pearl knows that "several humans, a monkey, and a dog did make it into space", so I guess she has a decent grasp of even the last century of human history.
- Even by gem standards, fifty years is not "quick"—divided by a thousand, it's more than a fortnight. Pearl was just lying.
Snow Ghost
#58500: Jul 25th 2019 at 7:05:30 PM
I mean, the humans didn't see Lapizuli again until season 4, it'd already been over a year...and the only visual of her they had was a small one.
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Storyboard for Connie's peck on the cheek from the trailer.
It's interesting when two characters are interacting, but they're drawn by a different artist each.
Rewatch, day three (making up for being two short yesterday):