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RedSavant Since: Jan, 2001
#58201: Feb 12th 2019 at 12:36:59 AM

He was an anxious, depressed asshole who coped with his feelings of inadequacy by being a jerk to the people who tolerated him.

Now he's a space pirate.

It's been fun.
randomness4 Snow Ghost from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Snow Ghost
#58202: Feb 12th 2019 at 12:56:51 AM

Wooow, what a shift.

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HalfFaust Since: Jan, 2019
#58203: Feb 12th 2019 at 1:04:57 AM

Strangely, being mortally wounded and trapped in space seemed to work out pretty well for him

Ultimatum Disasturbator from Second Star to the left (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Wishfully thinking
Disasturbator
#58204: Feb 12th 2019 at 7:52:19 AM

Thinking about it the most likely place you could find a Gem hybrid would the Human zoo since you have Gems and humans in close proximity,and if you were building a story about the hybrid meeting Steven they wouldn't have to go to the zoo when the hybrid could take a ship and travel to Earth

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32_Footsteps Think of the mooks! from Just north of Arkham Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
Think of the mooks!
#58205: Feb 12th 2019 at 7:53:16 AM

Another big aspect of early Lars was that he was simultaneously very needy for positive attention, very bad at actually noticing what got him positive attention, and very poor at handling positive attention when he recognized what was happening. He got very self-conscious, and that led to the behavior RedSavant described.

I think being put into a survival situation, combined with the fact that he didn't have several of the social hang-ups because Homeworld had a radically different society, helped Lars very much with the third point, which made it very easy to do the things he needed to do to resolve the first two points. To use a saying I've heard elsewhere that's hilarious in the current context, for some, pressure produces cracks; for others, pressure produces diamonds. Lars is the metaphorical latter.

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DrDougsh Since: Jan, 2001
#58206: Feb 12th 2019 at 8:39:54 AM

Given Lars's reaction to learning Sadie has a life outside of him, I feel he's still a douchebag. He's just been removed from the environment where he feels he needs to be a douchebag to gratify himself.

RedSavant Since: Jan, 2001
#58207: Feb 12th 2019 at 9:07:46 AM

I feel like he's been solidified, as Footsteps said. One awkward exchange after being gone for months isn't enough to condemn him; I'm sure he's not magically cured and he and Sadie still aren't necessarily healthy for each other, possibly even as friends, but now they both have lives outside of each other and shared apathy for the Big Donut. They're both in better places now.

It's been fun.
32_Footsteps Think of the mooks! from Just north of Arkham Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
Think of the mooks!
#58208: Feb 12th 2019 at 9:45:16 AM

Also, for all that Lars did have that twinge of anxiousness about Sadie's life outside of him, he didn't dwell on it long at all (the major problem mostly was when it hit). He's still probably going to backslide at points and probably have some knee-jerk poor reactions, but the important thing is that he's shown the ability to overcome that and be a better person.

Nobody is able to just overcome their negative personality traits in a snap, and everyone who is trying to overcome said traits backslides now and again. The important thing is to catch yourself before you backslide too far, and redouble your efforts to overcome it. It's early, but I think Lars can do that.

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Ultimatum Disasturbator from Second Star to the left (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Wishfully thinking
thatother1dude Ready to see true darkness from Land of the Ill, Annoyin' Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: In Lesbians with you
Ready to see true darkness
#58210: Feb 12th 2019 at 3:35:42 PM

Strangely, being mortally wounded and trapped in space seemed to work out pretty well for him
And, before that, finding no one but Sadie really knew him, and that even she didn't have a very good opinion of him.

[up][up]It was a lot like Connie's feelings the episode before.

Ultimatum Disasturbator from Second Star to the left (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Wishfully thinking
Disasturbator
#58211: Feb 25th 2019 at 10:02:59 AM

Thought this was worth shairing

From one of their twitter accounts,done to resemble the poster from Bohemian Rhapsody

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TheWhiteWolf (ON INDEFINITE HIATUS) from the Restaurant at the End of the Universe Since: Feb, 2015 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
(ON INDEFINITE HIATUS)
#58212: Feb 25th 2019 at 10:13:36 AM

Love that Mordecai is part of the logo

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thatother1dude Ready to see true darkness from Land of the Ill, Annoyin' Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: In Lesbians with you
Ready to see true darkness
#58213: Feb 25th 2019 at 10:30:43 AM

I want to make a recap page for the Dove shorts, but I’m not sure how to organize it number-wise, as they’re not the same production as the “regular” shorts.

Crossover-Enthusiast from an abaondoned mall (Lucky 7) Relationship Status: Chocolate!
#58214: Feb 25th 2019 at 11:29:12 AM

[up] If we don't have the production codes, just go by the order CN released them (though I think We Deserve to Shine is considered separate from the shorts, so that one might pose a problem).

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HalfFaust Since: Jan, 2019
#58215: Feb 25th 2019 at 12:16:18 PM

Maybe just at the end of the shorts section? Trouble is unnumbered would look a bit weird

thatother1dude Ready to see true darkness from Land of the Ill, Annoyin' Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: In Lesbians with you
Ready to see true darkness
#58216: Feb 25th 2019 at 4:05:04 PM

If we don't have the production codes, just go by the order CN released them
I didn't mean relative to each other, but relative to the other shorts.

I'm also thinking there should be just one page for all them, mostly for some background and tropes related to all of them (like the Animated Actors premise). In fact, since it's produced separately from the show, I don't think it would be under the "Recap" heading, even if it will still be linked on the recap page— Dove Self-Esteem Project x Steven Universe is what I'm thinking of.

I think We Deserve to Shine is considered separate from the shorts.
Why?

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#58217: Feb 25th 2019 at 4:17:15 PM

Eh, sorry, mistyped. I meant in the sense that it's a music video while the other shorts are more PSAs. They're still part of the same thing.

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thatother1dude Ready to see true darkness from Land of the Ill, Annoyin' Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: In Lesbians with you
Ready to see true darkness
#58218: Feb 25th 2019 at 8:46:32 PM

Alright, the deed is done. Dove Self-Esteem Project x Steven Universe is the page ready for examples, but I'm not so sure about the formatting—folders and AC headers seems redundant, but I don't know else to get the neatness of folders but also link the individual shorts.

Haven't made a link on the recap page, but did list it on the page for the franchise in general.

thatother1dude Ready to see true darkness from Land of the Ill, Annoyin' Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: In Lesbians with you
Ready to see true darkness
#58219: Feb 26th 2019 at 7:54:07 PM

I just stuck the page in a non-numbered space in the short's folder of the recap page.


"Inhales through teeth" was a scripted action. (Not sure which episode that's from, though it's clearly barn arc.)

Crossover-Enthusiast from an abaondoned mall (Lucky 7) Relationship Status: Chocolate!
#58220: Feb 26th 2019 at 8:31:53 PM

I think it's "Back to the Barn", though "Logdate 7 15 2" could also be a possibility. I wonder if "inhaling through teeth in aggravation/annoyance" is a trope.

...Also someone's probably already pointed this out, but I think I just realized what the numbers stand for in Peridot's logdates. The first number is the month, second is the day, and third is the era. So 7 15 2 would be July 15th, Era 2.

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RhymeBeat Bird mom from Eastern Standard Since: Aug, 2009 Relationship Status: In Lesbians with you
Bird mom
#58221: Feb 26th 2019 at 8:33:15 PM

The problem is that Steven's birthday happened earlier in the bomb and is at August 15

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Crossover-Enthusiast from an abaondoned mall (Lucky 7) Relationship Status: Chocolate!
#58222: Feb 26th 2019 at 8:40:12 PM

[up] Yeah, but Steven is listening to the events of Logdate through Peridot's recorder. It all could've just been recorded a month ago.

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RhymeBeat Bird mom from Eastern Standard Since: Aug, 2009 Relationship Status: In Lesbians with you
Bird mom
#58223: Feb 26th 2019 at 8:46:29 PM

Nope. The beggining of the episode is where she says the log date. She specifically says it's immediately after she told YD off.

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Crossover-Enthusiast from an abaondoned mall (Lucky 7) Relationship Status: Chocolate!
#58224: Feb 26th 2019 at 8:53:12 PM

I thought it was used at the end of the episode when Garnet and Peridot made a log after trying to fuse.

Have I mentioned it's been ages since I've seen that episode?

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RhymeBeat Bird mom from Eastern Standard Since: Aug, 2009 Relationship Status: In Lesbians with you
Bird mom
#58225: Feb 26th 2019 at 9:16:40 PM

Checked the transcript. Nope. It opens with her citing the log-date as 7 15 2

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