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unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#31951: May 20th 2016 at 12:34:08 PM

Interview with Sugar.

The Bismuth bubbled in Lion's mane.

Real Bismuth.

Gem that might be Bismuth.

Rose's shield protected them from whatever that was.

doesn't even have a gem anywhere on his body

That we can see.

I mean. That one bird that swallowed Steven had a bunch of gems inside of its stomach.

If Lion has a gem it might not be visible.

edited 20th May '16 12:35:38 PM by unnoun

Collen the cutest lizard from it is a mystery Since: Dec, 2010
the cutest lizard
#31952: May 20th 2016 at 12:35:58 PM

...Steven never did find Lion in "Same Old World", did he? I wonder what's up with that.

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diyedas Since: Feb, 2010
#31953: May 20th 2016 at 12:45:47 PM

[up][up]Hmm, true. Still at the moment we don't have any confirmation the he is actually a gem.

xanderiskander Since: Mar, 2012
#31954: May 20th 2016 at 12:47:45 PM

Lion seems to have a sense for when Steven really needs him.

randomness4 Snow Ghost from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Snow Ghost
#31955: May 20th 2016 at 12:57:46 PM

When Steven needs him most, Leon just leaves.

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Keybreak Since: Apr, 2010
#31956: May 20th 2016 at 1:03:42 PM

Cynical summary of Steven Universe that's still funny. ;p

My favorite gem is Armrest. [lol]

Actually it's Steven, but I like her name more.

xanderiskander Since: Mar, 2012
#31957: May 20th 2016 at 1:04:15 PM

He wouldn't have noticed Lapis if Lion had been there though. He didn't really need him, then.

[up] The ending of that had me die laughing. It's pretty true.

edited 20th May '16 1:09:33 PM by xanderiskander

randomness4 Snow Ghost from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Snow Ghost
#31958: May 20th 2016 at 1:12:56 PM

He needed to get home...not what drives the plot.

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thatother1dude Ready to see true darkness from Land of the Ill, Annoyin' Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: In Lesbians with you
Ready to see true darkness
#31959: May 20th 2016 at 1:19:36 PM

The lionesses are seen as the "subjects" of the male lion. So, if you're picturing a monarchy. Like, you need one figure in charge ruling over a bunch of other figures.
And really, they aren't in charge of the lionesses, they just sit around most of the day, have sex, and take the literal lion's share from the lionesses' hunts because no one is big enough to stop them. Kind of like how "queen" ants and bees aren't in charge of anything, they're just baby-makers. Of the few eusocial animals, even fewer have actual leaders.

If Lion isn't Lion then we loose a character, and I genuinely enjoy Lion as a character, and I don't really want his backstory to be too complex.
Lion being a corrupted gem doesn't mean losing Lion as a character. It doesn't mean he's Pink Diamond or any other figure of importance before being corrupted.

I like the idea of Lion being a corrupted gem because it's simple—it explains his weirder powers without introducing some entirely different kind of magical creature. I used to think Lion's most likely origin was a planimal Rose created, but none of the vines or the Watermelon Steven/animals have power anything like Lion's.

That one bird that swallowed Steven had a bunch of gems inside of its stomach.
The Slinker's gem was also fully internal.

edited 20th May '16 1:23:24 PM by thatother1dude

Collen the cutest lizard from it is a mystery Since: Dec, 2010
the cutest lizard
#31960: May 20th 2016 at 1:40:00 PM

The fact that we've seen a gem that might be Bismuth indicates to me that we might be seeing more stuff about Lion this season. There has to be a reason why Rose stored Bismuth's gem in there rather than in the Temple with the others.

And assuming that Bismuth is Rastagem, it would be interesting if she and Lapis met each other again.

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unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#31961: May 20th 2016 at 1:40:14 PM

And really, they aren't in charge of the lionesses, they just sit around most of the day, have sex, and take the literal lion's share from the lionesses' hunts because no one is big enough to stop them. Kind of like how "queen" ants and bees aren't in charge of anything, they're just baby-makers. Of the few eusocial animals, even fewer have actual leaders.

I know.

Hence "Nevermind that male lions rarely ever actually do anything."

I was trying to indicate that I was describing the way lions are perceived and commonly anthropomorphized. Not an actual or accurate description of actual lion behavior or social structure.

Although frankly, "taking the labor of others because no one else is big enough to stop them" is as good a definition of what a king does as any I've ever heard.

edited 20th May '16 1:46:09 PM by unnoun

xanderiskander Since: Mar, 2012
#31962: May 20th 2016 at 1:49:51 PM

The fact that we've seen a gem that might be Bismuth indicates to me that we might be seeing more stuff about Lion this season. There has to be a reason why Rose stored Bismuth's gem in there rather than in the Temple with the others.

And assuming that Bismuth is Rastagem, it would be interesting if she and Lapis met each other again.

Or we could get couple dozen slice of life episodes, and figure out what's going on with Lion next season.

Judging by all the episode titles suggesting side character episodes, that's seems to be mostly what we're getting for awhile.

Collen the cutest lizard from it is a mystery Since: Dec, 2010
the cutest lizard
#31963: May 20th 2016 at 1:50:51 PM

Keep in mind that Malachite returned in an episode titled "Super Watermelon Island".

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diyedas Since: Feb, 2010
#31964: May 20th 2016 at 1:51:44 PM

[up][up]There's only like 3 episode titles we know of so far.

[up]That makes a great point. There's plenty of episodes that don't seem hugely progressive by their titles or even synopsis sometimes but end up being huge.

edited 20th May '16 1:52:53 PM by diyedas

xanderiskander Since: Mar, 2012
#31965: May 20th 2016 at 1:54:23 PM

[up] Uh, nope. We've known about a ton of them for months, because Cartoon Network listed them on the site. None of them are particularly spoilery.

[up][up] Just an FYI. There were people who guessed that. It's not a huge logical leap, that something in the ocean would appear on an episode about an island.

edited 20th May '16 2:01:20 PM by xanderiskander

Collen the cutest lizard from it is a mystery Since: Dec, 2010
the cutest lizard
#31966: May 20th 2016 at 2:00:29 PM

Ian Jones-Quartey has also stated that the episode titles shouldn't be relied on because they weren't announced officially, and they're not in the right order either.

It seems weird to speculate based on information that we're not really supposed to know yet that might not even be 100% accurate.

Gave them our reactions, our explosions, all that was ours For graphs of passion and charts of stars...
xanderiskander Since: Mar, 2012
#31967: May 20th 2016 at 2:03:41 PM

So far the titles have been pretty much accurate. The list went as far back as Nightmare Hospital IIRC, and none of them have been renamed.

That's why were joking about the Baseball Episode coming up for awhile, before we even knew for sure it was, btw.

DrDougsh Since: Jan, 2001
#31968: May 20th 2016 at 2:04:12 PM

I wouldn't particularly care for Lion being a corrupted gem, either... because by the show's standards it'd just seem like such a mundane explanation. It kinda ruins the character's mystique, you know? Besides, shouldn't the Crystal Gems recognise a corrupted gem when they see one? None of them seems to know exactly what he is, suggesting he's some being unknown to them.

superboy313 Since: May, 2015
#31969: May 20th 2016 at 2:04:42 PM

Did anyone think of Aladdin when Steven and Lapis went travelling around the world?

diyedas Since: Feb, 2010
#31971: May 20th 2016 at 2:06:41 PM

[up][up]Yes! And I'm hoping someone makes a parody video with "A Whole New World." Or at least some fanart.

edited 20th May '16 2:06:49 PM by diyedas

BabyBoo Since: Feb, 2013
#31972: May 20th 2016 at 2:13:06 PM

- Lion has no visible gem on his outside.

- Neither does the Big Bird.

- Big Bird has several gems inside its body, in pink bubbles.

- Bismuth is in a pink bubble, 'inside' Lion.

edited 20th May '16 2:13:26 PM by BabyBoo

darkabomination Since: Mar, 2012
#31973: May 20th 2016 at 2:18:20 PM

I love this line from Sugar from that interview.

As a crew, we’re always working toward making the show we wanted as children. And a lot of us on the crew are not straight and are not white, and these topics don’t seem like adult topics to us, because they were part of our experience growing up. The more I work on this show, the more incredible it seems to me that these topics are not usually discussed in media for kids. Kids not only get it, many of them are experiencing it themselves, sometimes with no context to tell them their experience makes sense, and almost always without a fun sci-fi fantasy take on that experience featuring wacky cartoon aliens. I’d really like to rectify that.

We need a quotes page for this show.

xanderiskander Since: Mar, 2012
#31974: May 20th 2016 at 2:18:45 PM

[up][up]Besides holding a lot of bubbled gems, The bird seemed to be made up of a lot of gems too, because, IIRC, when they attacked it, it split into a bunch of smaller gems, that turned into smaller birds. It could have been a corrupted fusion or something.

edited 20th May '16 2:22:40 PM by xanderiskander

superboy313 Since: May, 2015
#31975: May 20th 2016 at 2:18:56 PM

@diyedas

I can show you the world

Shining, shimmering, splendid

Tell me, Lapis,

Now when did you last let your heart decide?

The same old world

The same old-fashioned point of view

No one to tell us "no"

Or where to go

Or say we're stuck in a mirror

edited 20th May '16 2:19:52 PM by superboy313


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