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Today I found out an interesting fact from troper Ironeye:
Don't ever make the mistake of using the Laconic version as the canonical trope meaning—the laconics are often written by people who don't actually understand the drop. In this case, the laconic only corresponds to one possible cause of Darkness-Induced Audience Apathy.
The Laconic Description for DIAA states as follows:
The thing is, these descriptions are supposed to make it easier to understand what the page is about. If they can't be accurate as well as short and sweet, then there's a problem.
So for starters, what would be a better description for DIAA?
Edited by MacronNotes on Jan 29th 2023 at 6:23:45 AM
Maybe:
“Teenage boy with electric powers fights against superhuman discrimination”?
She/Her | Currently cleaning N/A- Sounds more natural, nice!
Disambig Needed: Help with those issues! tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=13324299140A37493800&page=24#comment-576swapped it in.
But what about the other laconics?
She/Her | Currently cleaning N/AWIXOSS idea:
Girls playing a dangerous magical card game for wishes.
Disambig Needed: Help with those issues! tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=13324299140A37493800&page=24#comment-576Oddity I think can stay since the game is not (and probably never will be) finished and plot details aren’t plentiful.
Huniepop has this-
Edited by TheLivingDrawing on Dec 27th 2022 at 1:36:28 PM
Why waste time when you can see the last sunset last?Maybe for Laconic.Saints Row:
"A franchise heavily based on Grand Theft Auto that eventually became a Self-Parody."
(x4) Modefied to: Girls playing with dangerous magical cards for their wishes.
How does that sound?
She/Her | Currently cleaning N/A- I want it to be a "card game" so it's clear that it's not like they're using weird cursed Tarot Cards by tossing them in the air or something.
Edited by Malady on Dec 27th 2022 at 7:20:37 AM
Disambig Needed: Help with those issues! tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=13324299140A37493800&page=24#comment-576Alright, I modified it to be better and put it in.
“ A group of girls play a dangerous magical card game for their wishes.”
She/Her | Currently cleaning N/A(x5)
I don't like how that caption leans on GTA knowledge.
Suggesting new entry for Laconic.Lovecraftian Superpower.
"Magic, superpower, or special ability that is unpleasant or abnormal in the story's setting."
Edited by ElRise on Dec 29th 2022 at 12:06:35 AM
Graffiti WallAny other suggestions? Saint's Row started as a pretty blatant GTA clone, and only found its niche by getting silly as hell in later games.
Major improvement
idk about that laconic, cause reading the examples and parts of the description put an emphasis on Body Horror or other biological manipulation. But I could be wrong.
She/Her | Currently cleaning N/AExcuse me, how about Laconic.Avataro Sentai Donbrothers? Shouldn't somebody shorten/rewrite it a bit?
STOP RIGHT THERE! BULLS**T!Laconic.Temporary Blindness doesn't mention "for plot reasons only" but the main page says
So we should add it? Unless the trope page is wrong, and Status Effects too?
Edited by Malady on Dec 30th 2022 at 6:13:11 AM
Disambig Needed: Help with those issues! tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=13324299140A37493800&page=24#comment-576It's overly long but I have no familiarity with the work, so I wouldn't know how to shorten it. Do you have an idea?
"For the plot" honestly already seems implied.
Laconic.Magical Native American is painting with an overly broad brush:
It's not an All X Are Y trope; the magic in question is based around indigenous people being more "in tune" with the world than non-indigenous. Proposal:
A few months back, the description of Laconic.The Danza was changed from
to
The new one really doesn't fit, as this is not what the main page says (in fact, the first sentence is "A character whose name is clearly taken from the performer portraying them") and I think people having the same name is way too commonplace to be notable. Would it be okay to change it?
You can read the main page though...
STOP RIGHT THERE! BULLS**T!Laconic.Sliding Scale Of Realistic Versus Fantastic: Can we just cut this? The page doesn't need a Laconic, does it? Also we don't want scales anymore?
Disambig Needed: Help with those issues! tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=13324299140A37493800&page=24#comment-576I honestly don't know if it can be sent to the Cut List or not. Regardless, I agree with cutting the unneeded reference.
bumping this
She/Her | Currently cleaning N/ALaconic.Dr Jerk has this commented out note. Is it needed?
%%The unabridged version states the character can be a JerkWithAHeartOfGold. And, as SuperTrope states, JerkWithAHeartOfGold is a SubTrope of {{Jerkass}}.
Edited by Malady on Jan 5th 2023 at 1:34:46 AM
Disambig Needed: Help with those issues! tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=13324299140A37493800&page=24#comment-576I see no reason why is it needed.
TroperWall / WikiMagic Cleanup
Azure Striker Gunvolt:
"Teenage electric resistance fighter against superhuman discrimination"?
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