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Today I found out an interesting fact from troper Ironeye:
Don't ever make the mistake of using the Laconic version as the canonical trope meaning—the laconics are often written by people who don't actually understand the drop. In this case, the laconic only corresponds to one possible cause of Darkness-Induced Audience Apathy.
The Laconic Description for DIAA states as follows:
The thing is, these descriptions are supposed to make it easier to understand what the page is about. If they can't be accurate as well as short and sweet, then there's a problem.
So for starters, what would be a better description for DIAA?
Edited by MacronNotes on Jan 29th 2023 at 6:23:45 AM
I guess we should start with something like:
"Dolls powered by people, that fight to the last doll standing."
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It looks good, though just wondering, what's so bad about the original?
I was actually thinking something like:
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She / Her
Thanks and here's my first one, namely for Laconic.Asuras Wrath:
For Laconic.Promare:
For Laconic.Queens Blade:
Someone removed the detail from Laconic.Dragged Off To Hell that it applies to villains. However, the first paragraph mentions that.
EDIT: I tweaked the last part.
Edited by RandomTroper123 on Oct 19th 2022 at 4:12:42 AM
low-poly Shinri
Thanks, I'll use those replacements.
Also, Yeah, I'll restore the Hell one too.
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I'm helping!
Laconic.Only So Many Canadian Actors has a ridiculously lengthy note. Does this serve a purpose?
Trouble Cube continues to be a general-purpose forum for those who desire such a thing.
low-poly Shinri
Remove it, It doesn't do much outside of trivia facts. You can put those on the main page if possible.
She / Her
Seconded. It just feels unneeded to me.
The LEG From Now On
I found a few Laconics that need help.
For the latter:
"The son of Satan screws destiny and becomes an exorcist."
The LEG From Now On
Okay, fixed the Blue Exorcist entry. I also replaced the part with the unabridged version link, since it was also part of the problem.
the Retromancer
Laconic.The Count Of Monte Cristo
- A framed sailor escapes prison, finds treasure, and under a new identity of a rich nobleman, proceeds to ruin new lives of his wrongdoers.
e: swapped in
Edited by Amonimus on Oct 21st 2022 at 4:06:48 PM
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Officially intimidated
I support the suggestion.
135 - 161 - 273 - 191 - 188 - 230 - 300
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(x5) but what about Blue Dragon?
Well, the Persona bit likely is due to fighting using literal shadows, Final Fantasy because Summon Magic, I guess?
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The LEG From Now On
Having played the game myself, I’m guessing the Final Fantasy part is because the game has a Job System and was made by Mistwalker.
Edited by Saturn500 on Oct 20th 2022 at 8:53:35 AM
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But how should we rewrite it tho?
She / Her
~Saturn 500 Since someone already improved Laconic.Blue Exorcist, here's my suggestion for the first:
~Amonimus I feel your suggestion works a treat.
Someone removed the part of Laconic.This Loser Is You which mentions it can apply if the character is just unintelligent, and I recall that being part of the trope according to the main page. Would it be ok if I bring that back? What do you all think?
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Thanks.
Edited by RandomTroper123 on Oct 24th 2022 at 10:59:09 AM
The LEG From Now On
Replaced the Blue Dragon laconic with your suggestion.
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Found some more laconics need fixing
- Arifureta: From Commonplace to World's Strongest
Hajime Nagumo sat on a wall. Hajime Nagumo had a great fall. And all the God's horses and all the God's men, couldn't make Hajime sane again.orRagna and Rachel's Isekai.
- Tales of Vesperia
He's a badass Anti-Hero who fights The Empire through questionable means. She's a Princess Classic whose world is out to break her in countless ways. They Fight Crime! (and some Eldritch Abominations).
Kid Hero has the following laconic, which isn't really very informative (given that what classifies as a "child" can lead to debate, and the trope description is actually quite clear on what counts, which can be summarised in the laconic):
After reading through the trope description several times (and researching its iterations through the wayback machine), I'm going to suggest this replacement:
or
Edited by Wyldchyld on Oct 21st 2022 at 2:15:55 AM
If my post doesn't mention a giant flying sperm whale with oversized teeth and lionfish fins for flippers, it just isn't worth reading.
Hurting Hero's laconic is currently:
Edited by badtothebaritone on Oct 21st 2022 at 5:14:40 AM
I'm not sure "push past" is quite right because that suggests that they might have come to terms with it, whereas the point is that they keep going despite it (or sometimes because of it).
Perhaps change "push past it" to "keep going"?
If my post doesn't mention a giant flying sperm whale with oversized teeth and lionfish fins for flippers, it just isn't worth reading.
So, like this?
I hashed this out on the Nightmare Fuel clean-up thread initially, just to make sure I wasn't perpetrating any misuse.
Laconic.Nightmare Fuel isn't very good, so I'm suggesting replacing it with this:
"Something terrifying within a work that continues to disturb the audience after they've finished that work."
If my post doesn't mention a giant flying sperm whale with oversized teeth and lionfish fins for flippers, it just isn't worth reading.