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Today I found out an interesting fact from troper Ironeye:

Don't ever make the mistake of using the Laconic version as the canonical trope meaning—the laconics are often written by people who don't actually understand the drop. In this case, the laconic only corresponds to one possible cause of Darkness-Induced Audience Apathy.

The Laconic Description for DIAA states as follows:

The thing is, these descriptions are supposed to make it easier to understand what the page is about. If they can't be accurate as well as short and sweet, then there's a problem.

So for starters, what would be a better description for DIAA?

Edited by MacronNotes on Jan 29th 2023 at 6:23:45 AM

Malady (Not-So-Newbie)
#851: May 8th 2021 at 8:47:30 PM

[up] - Older versions exist that are more description but removed due to length?

Maybe restore?

https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/article_history.php?article=Laconic.StarTrekDeepSpaceNine

https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/article_history.php?article=Laconic.StarTrekVoyager#edit8457041


[up][up] - Since I wasn't clear, yeah, that's a good Laconic.Wicked Witch. How much agreement do we need to change laconics?

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#852: May 12th 2021 at 2:50:28 PM

Io Game is complainy and not really descriptive of the genre. Anybody familiar enough with it to fix it?

I do some cleanup and then I enjoy shows you probably think are cringe.
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#853: May 12th 2021 at 4:19:26 PM

Glancing at the page, we suggest "Simple, addictive PVP games with high stakes and low barrier to entry."

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#854: May 12th 2021 at 4:33:25 PM

[up]Good enough to me.

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#855: May 12th 2021 at 9:50:43 PM

Laconic.Dinosaurs Are Dragons: "Why the hell is that T-Rex breathing fire?"

This explains nothing.

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DenoTheSaur nothing lmao from 17 Pine Street Since: Mar, 2021
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#856: May 12th 2021 at 10:03:00 PM

[up] Well, I came up with this description.

"Dinosaurs are/act like Dragons."

Is this good, or should I change it abit.

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#857: May 13th 2021 at 3:40:44 AM

Laconic.Subverted Suspicion Aesop doesn't seem really accurate, since the person being suspected doesn't always bother to act nice, and is probably more fitting for Evil All Along.

Maybe replace it with something like, "The character whom you prejudiced against really is as bad as you suspect"?

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#858: May 13th 2021 at 5:14:43 AM

[up][up]That could work, but I suggest reading the actual description to be sure.

"Listen up, Marina, because this is SUPER important. Whatever you do, don't eat th“ “DON'T EAT WHAT?! Your text box ran out of space!”
DenoTheSaur nothing lmao from 17 Pine Street Since: Mar, 2021
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#859: May 13th 2021 at 12:55:50 PM

[up] Ok, I see

Edit: Ok, I came up with this.

"Dinosaurs have relation to Dragons and act like them."

How is it?

Edited by DenoTheSaur on May 13th 2021 at 3:58:56 PM

Delibirda from Splatsville Since: Sep, 2020 Relationship Status: I wanna be your dog
#860: May 14th 2021 at 5:12:29 AM

I reckon that the first suggestion was better. Let's use it.

"Listen up, Marina, because this is SUPER important. Whatever you do, don't eat th“ “DON'T EAT WHAT?! Your text box ran out of space!”
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#861: May 20th 2021 at 1:25:26 AM

Double post but this is important. This is the laconic for Oggy and the Cockroaches.


Tom and Jerry... taken to its logical extremes.
Up To Eleven sinkhole and not very informative.

Edited by Delibirda on May 20th 2021 at 10:25:40 AM

"Listen up, Marina, because this is SUPER important. Whatever you do, don't eat th“ “DON'T EAT WHAT?! Your text box ran out of space!”
PurpleEyedGuma Since: Apr, 2020
#862: May 21st 2021 at 7:30:47 AM

You’re a fan; you can probably fix it.

Malady (Not-So-Newbie)
#863: May 21st 2021 at 7:46:56 AM

So, if we don't need much consensus, I'm updating Wicked Witch.

Edited by Malady on May 21st 2021 at 7:47:33 AM

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#864: May 21st 2021 at 11:35:10 AM

Zelda's Honor is more of a summary than a laconic.

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#865: May 21st 2021 at 1:13:07 PM

Cleaned it up a bit at least. It's still lengthier than I'd like, but it's got no obviously extraneous information.

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#866: May 24th 2021 at 12:44:28 PM

After we cleaned it up, ~Chrononaut 70 just went and added a bunch of additional words to Laconic.Zeldas Honor... we need to have a discussion of the definition of the word "laconic".


Laconic.Percussive Shutdown is a bit unusual, but maybe it's good? What do y'all think?

Edited by wingedcatgirl on May 24th 2021 at 2:44:40 PM

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#867: May 24th 2021 at 1:25:46 PM

Yeah, that troper's addition to the Zelda's Honor laconic is simply unnecessary. Since removing it would likely cause an edit war, I recommend bringing this up to Ask The Tropers so a revert is permitted.

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#868: May 24th 2021 at 1:42:39 PM

Theoretically that ~ping should bring them here, assuming of course they aren't the kind of troper to never ever look at their DMs. Which is startlingly common.

Edited by wingedcatgirl on May 24th 2021 at 3:43:58 AM

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#869: May 24th 2021 at 2:11:14 PM

The Red Ones Go Faster laconic is just this:

ZOOM!!! ZOOM!!!

"Listen up, Marina, because this is SUPER important. Whatever you do, don't eat th“ “DON'T EAT WHAT?! Your text box ran out of space!”
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Wyldchyld (Old as dirt)
#871: May 24th 2021 at 3:18:10 PM

I like it, too. The only thing I would say is that it shouldn't pothole a different trope. Any Laconic that can only summarise its trope by potholing a completely different trope is not doing its job correctly.

I think the laconic will work just as well without the pothole, so it won't damage anything.

If my post doesn't mention a giant flying sperm whale with oversized teeth and lionfish fins for flippers, it just isn't worth reading.
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#872: May 24th 2021 at 4:01:59 PM

[up][up][up] If I remember correctly, colored laconics cannot be edited due to the new editor and whatnot.

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Malady (Not-So-Newbie)
#873: May 24th 2021 at 4:08:15 PM

Nah, we got colors back. At least some, if not all?

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Edited by Malady on May 24th 2021 at 4:08:41 AM

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#874: May 24th 2021 at 4:38:28 PM

Yeah, this laconic already got ported to the new color system.

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Wyldchyld (Old as dirt)
#875: May 24th 2021 at 4:50:38 PM

Worth observing that a Laconic that relies on colour to make its point may have accessibility issues that render it ZCE.

Colour blindness is a thing, after all.

If my post doesn't mention a giant flying sperm whale with oversized teeth and lionfish fins for flippers, it just isn't worth reading.

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