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Today I found out an interesting fact from troper Ironeye:
Don't ever make the mistake of using the Laconic version as the canonical trope meaning—the laconics are often written by people who don't actually understand the drop. In this case, the laconic only corresponds to one possible cause of Darkness-Induced Audience Apathy.
The Laconic Description for DIAA states as follows:
The thing is, these descriptions are supposed to make it easier to understand what the page is about. If they can't be accurate as well as short and sweet, then there's a problem.
So for starters, what would be a better description for DIAA?
Edited by MacronNotes on Jan 29th 2023 at 6:23:45 AM
The laconic for Stock Parody Jokes seems complain-y and not very informative:
Laconic.Scary Stinging Swarm states:
This description was formerly used for Bee Afraid trope back from before it underwent the Trope Transplant. However, I want to slightly alter it: replace the word "chased" with "attacked", since I believe that being chased by a swarm is not a requirement. Tropes Are Flexible, after all. Characters fleeing from swarms of stinging insects is not a mandatory part of a trope; it's simply a reactionary response to a Scary Stinging Swarm.
I brought it here because one troper thought
that being chased by a swarm is a requirement because of a misleading laconic description.
So, I just found Laconic.Girlschool, and, uhh...
The Runaways: New Wave of British Heavy Metal edition. Or, if Motörhead were women.
Yeah, anyone want to take a crack at fixing this?
Working on: Author Appeal | Sandbox | Troper WallLaconic.Buffoonish Tomcat has some grammar problems. Ideas on how to fix it?
Edited by Vandagyre on May 1st 2021 at 12:12:28 PM
Cave Johnson, we're done here.That is just so, so fucking long. ~Toony Explorer 24 did almost all of these edits, making it longer and longer over time.
I'm inclined to revert it to something more likethis version from December
that just reads "Male cats, unlike their female counterparts, are depicted as clownish or buffoonish."
Oh ok I see, I think I should just save to a document to what I edited her and I can do my best with shortening it down. The same could be said for that laconic for the Kindhearted Simpleton page.
Joseph D. Sanford IV
I was able to fix both the Buffoonish Tomcat laconic with a shorter description and I also just fixed the Kindhearted Simpleton one without making edit-wars on it. I'll just leave them there to the professionals as always.
Here's the laconic for Not Like Other Girls:
A character tells a girl that she's not like other girls, without realising the implications of this.
Is it kosher to say a trope is inherently unfortunate?
It is, at least, unclear on what implications are truly there, so I support a change. Maybe something like "A character tells a girl that she's not like other girls, regardless of whether the claim is justified or not".
Although the main page's current description isn't helping here, because it also drifts into "this can be unfortunate because blah blah blah", so there may be a larger problem at hand.
135 -> 180 -> 273 -> 191 -> 188 -> 230 -> 300 -> 311Happy Ending's laconic repeats itself. Might I suggest it just be changed to say "An ending where nothing bad happens"?
My musician page
That's not the problem. It's that the trope laconic describes it as "the plot of Alice in Wonderland" with no elaboration on what the plot of said book is.
K how bout:
Trope: The plot structure of Alice in Wonderland; wherein the protagonist becomes lost in a magical world, with its associated tropes.
- What tropes are the associated tropes?
Laconic.Wicked Witch: "Creepy cackling old woman who rides a broom."
Is a Redirect target for Evil Witch.
Is the trope just "Witch and Evil"??
Disambig Needed: Help with those issues! tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=13324299140A37493800&page=24#comment-576Seems so, given the description has "It's likely that every witch in existence will be this trope in a setting where Magic Is Evil".
So, better Laconic than "Witch that is evil" suggestions?
Else I change...
Disambig Needed: Help with those issues! tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=13324299140A37493800&page=24#comment-576How about this?
Edited by Wyldchyld on May 8th 2021 at 6:02:14 PM
If my post doesn't mention a giant flying sperm whale with oversized teeth and lionfish fins for flippers, it just isn't worth reading.
- Oh, so it's not just Evil Witch, but Obviously Evil Witch? That's interesting!
From reading the trope description, that's basically what I'm getting... it's how a work has brought together some, or all, of the classic negative elements of portraying witches to emphasise that the character in question really is evil.
It's basically what happens when Witch Classic and Obviously Evil decide to make a baby.
Cue the subversions when it turns out that the character is just an elderly widow who keeps cats to stave off loneliness and she's actually a good and kindly witch who only uses her powers to protect others. Cue the deconstruction if said kindly old widow is increasingly lonely, bitter and unhelpful due to people constantly ostracising her precisely because they've fallen victim to this trope.
Edited by Wyldchyld on May 8th 2021 at 6:14:41 PM
If my post doesn't mention a giant flying sperm whale with oversized teeth and lionfish fins for flippers, it just isn't worth reading.Laconic.Star Trek Deep Space Nine and Laconic.Star Trek Voyager are just references.
For every low there is a high.

The trope is "Bigger stick, woman gets better sex." We must build on that.
Edited by Delibirda on Apr 19th 2021 at 12:32:26 PM
"Listen up, Marina, because this is SUPER important. Whatever you do, don't eat th“ “DON'T EAT WHAT?! Your text box ran out of space!”