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Today I found out an interesting fact from troper Ironeye:
Don't ever make the mistake of using the Laconic version as the canonical trope meaning—the laconics are often written by people who don't actually understand the drop. In this case, the laconic only corresponds to one possible cause of Darkness-Induced Audience Apathy.
The Laconic Description for DIAA states as follows:
The thing is, these descriptions are supposed to make it easier to understand what the page is about. If they can't be accurate as well as short and sweet, then there's a problem.
So for starters, what would be a better description for DIAA?
Edited by MacronNotes on Jan 29th 2023 at 6:23:45 AM
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"A long chain of adaptations of a work"
How about:
A Science Fiction sub-genre where the use and abuse of advanced science and information technology produces an oppressive, nihilistic setting that pits individuals against the established order of society.
How about:
A mediaeval style of romance involving a high-ranking woman, who is already spoken for, and a lower-ranking man, who is inspired and ennobled by a passion that cannot be consummated.
Edited by Wyldchyld on Sep 26th 2020 at 7:22:01 PM
If my post doesn't mention a giant flying sperm whale with oversized teeth and lionfish fins for flippers, it just isn't worth reading.
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Laconic.Among Us is another "recycled in space" laconic.
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How about "Little bean people trying to complete tasks versus imposters trying to murder them"?
Trouble Cube continues to be a general-purpose forum for those who desire such a thing.
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I haven't played the game myself, but that sounds like an improvement.
Reposting this, but Laconic.Cyberpunk doesn't explain what the trope is about at all. Any better suggestions?
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"When high-tech gizmos meet Film Noir conventions and social injustice." Should distinguish it from the closely related Techno Dystopia ("A futuristic utopia is actually a hell-scape perpetuated by destructive and/or corruptive technology.").
Much better, but I'd prefer not having to rely on understanding what Film Noir is to fully understand the scope of the trope.
The laconic for Selective Obliviousness is just a quote that actually describes I Reject Your Reality.
I offered a suggestion above
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A Science Fiction sub-genre where the use and abuse of advanced science and information technology produces an oppressive, nihilistic setting that pits individuals against the established order of society.
If my post doesn't mention a giant flying sperm whale with oversized teeth and lionfish fins for flippers, it just isn't worth reading.
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Laconic.Cerebus Syndrome is currently:
Cerebus Syndrome isn't sudden though, it's gradual.
Literally would just have to change one word:
Edited by Primis on Oct 26th 2020 at 12:53:41 PM
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Done. Laconics are usually slightly ambiguous due to their nature, but they shouldn't be inaccurate.
Dewicking The Protagonist. Found this bad one:
Bonnie's Artistic Cousin
The Laconic for Laconic.TLP Guidelines seems pretty outdated and misleadingly simplified, even for a laconic. Any ideas for what we can change it to?
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Oh yeah, I dunno if we're supposed to bring up complete rewrites, but a few weeks ago I changed the absolutely awful laconic for Albinos Are Freaks from this:
To this:
It's not that great, but I just wanted to get that chairs-y mess out of there.
Jawbreakers on sale for 99¢
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Honestly, do wiki policy pages like that need laconics? And can a page that complex be boiled down to one or two sentences? I think the answer to both is no and that we should just cut that page.
Wow, that is amazingly awful. Thank you for changing it.
Bonnie's Artistic Cousin
Cut is also a valid solution here; I just wanted to see if we could salvage it.
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Laconic.Sakunaof Riceand Ruin:
Also doesn't link back and not sure if it has the capitalization issues of the work page.
Disambig Needed: Help with those issues! tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=13324299140A37493800&page=24#comment-576
Very Spooky
Two months ago, this sentence was added to Laconic.Suck E Cheeses:
It was initially removed, but the editor who added it tried to justify it by adding this to the trope’s description:
Is all of this really necessary? It seems irrelevant to the trope, especially considering that this never seems to show up in any works.
back lol
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"May be Popular with Furries" seems like something that belongs in the unabridged description. Laconics are supposed to get at the very core of a trope, and this is more of a tangential detail.
As for whether Suck E. Cheese's may in fact be popular with furries, I wouldn't know, I'm only furry-adjacent.
Edited by wingedcatgirl on Nov 19th 2020 at 2:43:47 AM
Trouble Cube continues to be a general-purpose forum for those who desire such a thing.
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~Dongwa Chan, can you try discussing this instead of edit warring?
Trouble Cube continues to be a general-purpose forum for those who desire such a thing.
You see, the Rock-afire Explosion and Chuck E. Cheese's, along with a few other animatronic-using FEC chains/restaurants, have naturally gained furry fans.
I haven’t seen any evidence to back that claim.
Bonnie's Artistic Cousin
Even if that's true, the addition is a misuse of the laconic wiki.
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How about Adaptation Sequence?