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For a list of bad laconics, see Sandbox.Pages Needing Better Laconics.

For generally accepted guidelines for laconics, see Sandbox.Laconic Wiki Template.


Today I found out an interesting fact from troper Ironeye:

Don't ever make the mistake of using the Laconic version as the canonical trope meaning—the laconics are often written by people who don't actually understand the drop. In this case, the laconic only corresponds to one possible cause of Darkness-Induced Audience Apathy.

The Laconic Description for DIAA states as follows:

The thing is, these descriptions are supposed to make it easier to understand what the page is about. If they can't be accurate as well as short and sweet, then there's a problem.

So for starters, what would be a better description for DIAA?

Edited by MacronNotes on Jan 29th 2023 at 6:23:45 AM

JHD0919 One-Track Mind (he/him) from a 12-pack of Diet Coke (Troper in training) Relationship Status: Abstaining
One-Track Mind (he/him)
#2851: Apr 3rd 2024 at 5:38:11 AM

[up]I think so? Can't think of anything that would disqualify it atm.

From Laconic.Tales Of Vesperia:

He's a badass Anti-Hero who fights a corrupt system through questionable means. She's a Princess Classic whose world is out to break her in countless ways. They, and others, embark on an adventure.

Is this laconic good enough?

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Spellbrand Since: May, 2023
#2852: Apr 6th 2024 at 7:55:14 AM

Classroom of the Elite:

Apparently Ridiculously Average Guy subtly manipulates his classmates, so that it does not occur to anyone to limit his freedom.


Visit the unabridged version HERE.

Too focused on describing Ayanokoji (which is not good imo, since his personality varies depending on the medium) and not on a school itself. My version to consider:


A guy hiding his brilliance joins Absurdly Divided School, manipulating people in the process.
We'll reach A Class together HERE.

Edited by Spellbrand on Apr 6th 2024 at 7:55:53 AM

CanuckMcDuck1 Stark Holmes from London, 1890 Since: Sep, 2023 Relationship Status: One Is The Loneliest Number
Stark Holmes
Spellbrand Since: May, 2023
Spellbrand Since: May, 2023
#2855: Apr 6th 2024 at 8:39:32 AM

A Light In The Dark:

Stockholm Syndrome: The Game.


Recycled In Space. My version:
Distressed Dude is kidnapped by two girls. Try to escape or understand their motives.

Edited by Spellbrand on Apr 6th 2024 at 8:40:18 AM

animuacid Animu from Suginomiya district Since: Jan, 2024
Malady (Not-So-Newbie)
#2858: Apr 7th 2024 at 8:10:07 PM

Laconic.Mister Seahorse:

A pregnant cisgender man.

Given recent discussions, it seems to not matter the gender of the man that's pregnant.

Does "A pregnant man." feel too short to anyone else? If it's that simple, then why have Laconic instead of just making it the first sentence of the description?

Goodnight!

EDIT, although, that's what it was ~2 years ago

Edited by Malady on Apr 7th 2024 at 8:11:47 AM

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Angry babby
#2859: Apr 7th 2024 at 8:41:18 PM

I think "A pregnant man" is fine. It's descriptive, and I don't think "too short" is an issue with laconics if it's descriptive. Plus there's Bizarre Alien Biology examples listed and I'm not sure if I'd technically count all of them as "cisgender" as not every species has that sort of binary.

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DoktorvonEurotrash Welcome, traveller, welcome to Omsk Since: Jan, 2001
Welcome, traveller, welcome to Omsk
#2860: Apr 8th 2024 at 6:08:45 AM

[up]Agree.

That said, maybe "a pregnant male" would be even better, since there are non-human examples.

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Spellbrand Since: May, 2023
#2861: Apr 9th 2024 at 5:52:35 AM

Nineteen Eighty-Four: The Sex Comedy!

I see Shimoneta was added to the list of laconics, so here's my version:

In a World… where Political Overcorrectness conquered Japan, a boy is blackmailed into La Résistance to fight the censorship.

Edited by Spellbrand on Apr 9th 2024 at 5:59:21 AM

animuacid Animu from Suginomiya district Since: Jan, 2024
Animu
#2862: Apr 9th 2024 at 5:59:21 AM

[up] That's better but it's missing the fact that the work is very Ecchi and that the protagonist is fighting for it.

Spellbrand Since: May, 2023
#2863: Apr 9th 2024 at 6:06:09 AM

Ok, i'll add it

In a World… where Political Overcorrectness conquered Japan, a boy is blackmailed into La Résistance to fight the censorship in a distinguishing way.

animuacid Animu from Suginomiya district Since: Jan, 2024
Animu
#2864: Apr 9th 2024 at 6:11:34 AM

[up][tup] Go add it. And these sentences inspired me for a laconic of Nukitashi:

In an island where getting it on everywhere is mandatory, a virgin founds La Résistance against the perverted law.

Edited by animuacid on Apr 9th 2024 at 3:11:45 PM

Diesel Konstruktor Since: Jun, 2013 Relationship Status: Abstaining
Konstruktor
#2865: Apr 18th 2024 at 1:10:39 PM

The Book of Lord Shang breaks policy by applying a morality trope to a real life philosophical text. It currently reads:

The manual on Lawful Evil.
Trying my best to keep things balanced (and putting aside whether that text is tropeable), I suggest it be replaced with:
One of the foundational texts of Legalism, advocating an extensive system of punishments premised on Humans Are Bastards and equality before the law, meritocracy, and a government focused entirely on war and agriculture.

Edited by Diesel on Apr 18th 2024 at 1:12:45 AM

CanuckMcDuck1 Stark Holmes from London, 1890 Since: Sep, 2023 Relationship Status: One Is The Loneliest Number
Stark Holmes
#2866: Apr 18th 2024 at 6:46:57 PM

[up]The replacement already looks better, if convoluted for a laconic.

Discombobulate.
Malady (Not-So-Newbie)
#2867: Apr 18th 2024 at 7:13:06 PM

"Ancient text promoting punishment-based legal system"?

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petersohn from Earth, Solar System (Long Runner) Relationship Status: Hiding
#2868: Apr 18th 2024 at 11:55:02 PM

[up]That sounds good.

The universe is under no obligation to make sense to us.
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CanuckMcDuck1 Stark Holmes from London, 1890 Since: Sep, 2023 Relationship Status: One Is The Loneliest Number
Stark Holmes
#2870: Apr 20th 2024 at 4:45:45 PM

Neither explain the anime that well, but the first one is better. I've always had a bone to pick with laconics that are just "[trope]: the movie/show/game".

Discombobulate.
MyFinalEdits Officially intimidated from Parts Unknown (Ten years in the joint) Relationship Status: TV Tropes ruined my love life
Officially intimidated
#2871: Apr 20th 2024 at 5:03:12 PM

Yeah, the second can go at the very least.

135 - 161 - 273 - 191 - 188 - 230 - 300
UchuuFlamenco Since: Jul, 2017
#2872: Apr 20th 2024 at 5:51:55 PM

How about something like "Wacky harem romcom about a boy destined to have 100 soulmates"?

CanuckMcDuck1 Stark Holmes from London, 1890 Since: Sep, 2023 Relationship Status: One Is The Loneliest Number
Stark Holmes
#2873: Apr 20th 2024 at 6:34:01 PM

[up]That's pretty similar to what the original laconic was. Definitely a good replacement.

Discombobulate.
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the Retromancer
#2875: Apr 23rd 2024 at 2:31:31 PM

[up][up][up][tup]

dump, realized it was missed

Edited by Amonimus on Apr 23rd 2024 at 12:31:45 PM

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