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Today I found out an interesting fact from troper Ironeye:
Don't ever make the mistake of using the Laconic version as the canonical trope meaning—the laconics are often written by people who don't actually understand the drop. In this case, the laconic only corresponds to one possible cause of Darkness-Induced Audience Apathy.
The Laconic Description for DIAA states as follows:
The thing is, these descriptions are supposed to make it easier to understand what the page is about. If they can't be accurate as well as short and sweet, then there's a problem.
So for starters, what would be a better description for DIAA?
Edited by MacronNotes on Jan 29th 2023 at 6:23:45 AM
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The suggestion is much better.
the Retromancer
the Retromancer
Laconic.Sailor Moon: Defining example of the Magical Girl Warrior genre.
That doesn't mean anything. Suggestion:
- Ordinary schoolgirl becomes a Magical Girl Warrior and is tasked to find the Lunarian princess and Reincarnations of other warriors to stop the forces of darkness.
Laconic.Captain Fishman: In a world of heroes and villains, there is always a hero or villain who's themed around aquatic life and the ocean.
Too much prose. The descrition also does not mention villains. Suggestion:
- Aquatic-themed superhero
Laconic.Tower Of God: A young boy stumbles upon the many characters, mysteries, worlds, and dangers that inhabit a vast, massive Evil Tower of Ominousness.
Too vauge. Also the titular Tower isn't a literal tower. Suggestion:
- A boy not bound by the world's Functional Magic has to find companions and traverse The Empire of vertically-stacked regions.
Edited by Amonimus on Mar 11th 2024 at 5:12:22 PM
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Officially intimidated
I support those suggestions.
Stark Holmes
bumping this inquiry
with a possible replacement:
I finished every mainlline Lyrical Nanoha laconics, including StrikerS Sound Stage X. Feel free to share your opinion if interested.
Likes video games
Thin Blue Line: A Pro-Police Comic Book for a Defund The Police era.
I don't think it explains anything, since we don't know what actually "Pro-Police" means. Anyone can make this description better?
I don't know the comic, but reading the description the following might be more accurate:
Kantai Collection, but with anthropomorphised firearms and an actual plot.
- Commander, please visit the unabridged version here.
Too reliant on comparison with Kancolle (which is no longer relevant imo) and doesn't explain anything. My version:
You direct a PMC consisting of humanlike guns trying to survive in a Crapsack World full of conflicts.
- Become a shining beacon in the brave new world here.
Officially intimidated
I support it.
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Laconic.Cute Witch has the laconic "An adorable witch.", which is flat-out wrong (it's supposed to be a subclass of Magical Girl, and the oldest form of that genre) and is probably contributing to the Trope Decay of the trope.
Unfortunately, I'm not particularly well versed in Magical Girl anime. My suggestion is "A witch-themed Magical Girl who (tries to) use(s) her magic to solve the problems of people around her", but I'll be happy for any improvements.
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the Retromancer
Thinking that's good enough for now until further suggestions.
I'm helping!
Laconic.Super Drowning Skills is currently "Swims like a brick." which is not helpful at all. Any better ideas?
Trouble Cube continues to be a general-purpose forum for those who desire such a thing.
Stark Holmes
I actually think "Swims like a brick" is a fairly accurate description, although i guess the concept is more broad than drowning via dropping like lead.
"Instantly Drowning" seems like a simple enough change if you think it needs to be broadened.
Edited by IronAnimation on Mar 23rd 2024 at 9:37:43 AM
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the Retromancer
"Swims like a brick." is one of the most known idioms in English, though "Drowns instantly." is more clearer while meaning the same.
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Big Catch, Sparkle Edition
"Drowns instantly" is clearer, though I think the current is funnier. I don't think it's that hard to understand, either.
Current Project: Incorruptible Pure Pureness
^ in agreement with that.
I think let's just keep it is as is. It's not really doing any harm and is descriptive enough while being idiomatic.
Edited by IronAnimation on Mar 24th 2024 at 7:29:40 AM
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Keep it; it's already good.
EDIT: Have changed Laconic.Cute Witch upon discussion, if anyone has any suggestions for improvement, please bring them up.
Edited by DoktorvonEurotrash on Mar 24th 2024 at 10:14:42 AM
It does not matter who I am. What matters is, who will you become? - motto of Omsk Bird
Stark Holmes
Got a suggestion for Uncharted, given it’s place on a list of sandboxes needing improvement above:
the Retromancer
- Applied Phlebotinum: "Soft science material fuel"
Is it understandable? Perhaps: "A vaguely explained special substance as a Plot Device"
Edited by Amonimus on Apr 1st 2024 at 3:31:11 PM
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I prefer your version. (Typo check, though: it should be "vaguely".)
Konstruktor
and : both are good replacement laconic descriptions. I find the current laconic for Applied Phlebotinum confusing, because "Soft science material fuel" can be interpreted to mean the trope describes a literal fuel source, rather than a metaphorical one.
I noticed that the laconic description for And Then There Were None calls it "Ten Little Murder Victims: The Trope Codifier." Is this kind of laconic allowed?
Laconic.Maria No Danzai: You've heard of dead mom, now get ready for vengeful mom.
That doesn't really make much sense. Suggestion:
- A schoolboy is killed by bullies who manage to Make It Look Like an Accident. His mother becomes a school nurse under a new identity to kill all of them.
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