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Ah, no follow-ups? That's somewhat relieving.
It came from Chuck Huber, who among other things tried to get Rial and Marche to say Vic didn't do anything to them.
Edited by VeryMelon on Oct 5th 2019 at 2:44:18 AM
Yeah, I knew he wasn't particularly trustworthy. But what he accused Sabat of was orders of magnitude more serious from what Vic did, from what I recall, and in this day and age, when someone in a place of power gets accused of sexually exploiting others, it's a good idea not to immediately dismiss that out of hand, y'know? >_>
He didn't actually accuse Chris of the casting couch. Despite laying the blame for everything else square at Chris' feet when he talked about the couching cast he changed his tone to "I've heard rumours of a casting couch and I believe them to be true" without elaboration. He also claimed that Kai was recorded in 2007 (I don't even know if Kai had been announced by that point, but English recording happened in 2010), and that all the female V As that were replaced did so because they wouldn't sleep with the casting director, even though that contradicts everything previously stated by said V As (one moved to Missouri to pursue her singing career, one had moved to Israel, and one has blamed an ex for sabotaging her career - and no, the ex isn't Sabat).
However we do know that Vic has used his power to get someone he was sleeping with into a dub. When he was ADR director for Juni Taisen he gave a role to his current girlfriend (who he has admitted he cheated with on his former fiancé) despite her having no previous acting credits.
Do you think anything will happen to Huber?
Yikes. Hadn't heard of that before. Any chance you'd be willing to drop a source for the bit about cheating? I've been taking an awful lot of things on hearsay lately and far too many of them have quickly turned out to be demonstrably untrue.
Hard to say, I'm behind on MHA so I don't know if Kurogiri is meant to appear in Season 4 or not, but if he does appear and Huber's still voicing him then he's probably safe for awhile (although I don't know where they're doing the simudub for season 4), albeit new roles might be slim for him at Funi.
Here is Vic's deposition, page 131 he admits to hiring a prostitute 7 or 8 years ago, before he was engaged to his ex-fiancé but while they were still dating (they started around 2008). Same page he admits to making a lot of mistakes in regards to his Christian faith in relation to adultery. Page 124 of same document he admits to having cheated on his fiancé multiple times. 125 he talks about two twins he knew since they were underage and how he tried to get them to have sex with him when they were 21, again at the same time as he was engaged.
I led with Vic's deposition because it would be hard for people to argue that it's untrue when it's Vic himself admitting to things that paint him in a poor light. If you're interested in his ex-fiancé's affidavit here it is. It also includes a email chain between her and Vic where she lays out a lot of accusations of him cheating on her and he doesn't dispute them. And if you're interested in other affidavit's here is all the one's from Monica and Ron's TCPA notices, and here is funimation's (although they are more about the circumstances of Vic's employment and termination). All of them were sworn under oath so if they're lying they can be charged with perjury which carries some punishments (for example you can be jailed for up to 10 years for perjury in Texas in the right circumstances, as well as 5-figure fines). I find that lends credence to their claims.
Attorney here, just to chime in on this:
Suing was a stupid move. Inconceivably stupid. The nature of the allegations means that unless discovery yielded a smoking gun, the chances of proving it false, as well as that the defendants said it knowing its falsity was almost nil. Not only that, but proving they caused most of the damages when these rumors have been swirling for years? If this ever got to trial, the lawyers would've eaten Vic Mignogna alive on the stand.
I came into this knowing some rumors of Vic and thinking he was kind of a creep. I came away from it thinking he's a predatory scumbag, and the idea that so many people would ally just to destroy a past-his-prime voice actor is farcical.
I see people blaming his lawyers a lot and while his attorney was laughably incompetent, there's no way this case was ever going to get past summary judgement.
And anyone who thought this would 'destroy' Funimation? Yeah, right.
I honestly think both Vic’s lawyer and the running the GFM knew this case had no chance of winning but saw a opportunity to milk as much money from his fans as possible. That’s why his lawyer says things like “sure we lost the case but we got the truth out there so we actually won” and the other one talking about how they’ll be able to sue Sony next and win.
They just keep telling Vic and his fans what they want to hear and cash those GFM and You Tube checks.
I don't understand how anyone can think this is a win after all this.
Denial & delusion are powerful drugs.
Sunk cost fallacy as well, especially for those who donated money and the alternative is admitting they were conned.
I'd hope none of them are dumb enough to donate the GFM for appeals, but...they probably are.
I mean I just had an argument today on Youtube with some guys who believe every bad thing said about Vic are all lies, that he was brought down just because he was leagues above them, & anyone who believes in such lies are in his words "cucks who will never amount to anything in life."
So yes I can believe there is still a steady supply of cattle willing to donate. Man you voice 2 high-profile characters in your entire career & frat boys will be willing to obsessively suck your dick.
Edited by slimcoder on Oct 7th 2019 at 9:54:29 AM
The day he lost his GFM got another $1k added to it. You'd think that getting such a devastating loss at such an early stage in the lawsuit would make people think twice.
And despite Vic being a predator for almost as long as I've been alive (his first accuser was assaulted by him back in 1989) I do feel the smallest amount of pity that thanks to how badly his legal team and advisor are fucking him he's likely going to wind up in even worse financial positions by the end of things. Granted that's more because I believe in the professional responsibility of lawyers to do right by their clients.
I'm pretty sure the reason he has such shitty lawyers is because any lawyer with half a brain and a smidgen of integrity realized there was no way he would win. He didn't like that answer, so he dug deeper until he found someone willing to tell him that suing a company while having no leg to stand on would totally go well for him.
Specifically Nick sought him out after creating the GFM (seriously that should have been the biggest warning sign), then recommended Ty because Ty handles his families' trust funds (which is a major ethical breach in itself). But the most shocking thing to me was how disinterested in his own case Vic is. He didn't show up to the court hearing and in his deposition his response to questions about it was "it's not my problem."
Good lord I think Vic is a sociopath, a low-functioning one at that.
No normal human being should be this blatantly uncaring about the red flags of his own fucking case.
Edited by slimcoder on Oct 7th 2019 at 11:15:46 AM
That's a first to me to hear stuff regarding JT.
Has her name been mentioned anywhere else?
Really, I loathe Rekieta and Beard who give my profession a terrible name.
My hope is Vic gets fewer con invites as well. Man's a safety menace.
I just figure he's just kinda dead inside at this point. He may have started this shit, but it sounds like it's gotten way out of control.
Edited by EndlessSea on Oct 8th 2019 at 3:18:57 AM
Yeah, the fact that a bunch of people still think Vic's gonna win and try to act as if Chupp was bribed as opposed to bothering to think of the possibility that Vic didn't have a case (and had an incredibly incompetent lawyer) just stuns me.
You're a lawyer Lighty? Didn't know that.
For the meantime, I'm posting the thread for Kabukicho Sherlock since it's out in Japan by the 11th.
And the first episode for Kabukicho Sherlock is out.
I'll see where this rendition of Sherlock Holmes goes to.
I'm not sure if anyone is surprised by this, but apparently Vic's lawyer is planning on submitting an appeal within the next week for everything. My legal knowledge is pretty limited but I was fairly certain the clock hasn't even started for deadlines on appeals and won't until the fees are calculated, so bold choice committing to appeals before knowing how much he's on the hook for.
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