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Currently on the table: Odango Hair

There is on TV Tropes, a common bad habit that persists among editors of using appearance tropes, or names that sound like they could be appearance tropes, badly. They always suffer from the same problems and they tend to clog up the TRS like they're on a revolving door. As such I'm making a large scale special effort in order to address the common problems all of these tropes have.

Sometimes non-appearance tropes are mistaken for appearance tropes. Report them here and the clean-up will be handled.

We're going to search for the best ways to change the culture and make sure that the misuse stops. Tropes will be handled here and we'll likely have a fair number of crowners on this thread. Keep checking back for new developments.

For full details, including the to-do list and crowner list, check this post. There's also a Sandbox page showing a summarized version of ongoing and past efforts: Sandbox.Appearance Tropes Cleanup

All appearance tropes that show more than 50% misuse and/or ZCEs on a wick check may be cut freely after posting the wick check here on the thread for approval as per crowner results.

Edited by SeptimusHeap on Mar 18th 2021 at 10:04:17 AM

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GastonRabbit A real nowhere man from Robinson, Illinois, USA Relationship Status: I'm just a poor boy, nobody loves me
Aug 14th 2019 at 2:59:10 AM

The consensus was heavily in favor of the redirects. Shouldn't we be focusing on what to put on the disambiguation page?

"An ear for an ear makes it hard to hear." —Gaston (Animal Crossing: New Horizons)
naturalironist from The Information Superhighway Relationship Status: TV Tropes ruined my love life
Aug 16th 2019 at 11:21:22 AM

Historically, many cultures did not differentiate between blue and gray eyes, and for real life people it can be hard to tell the difference. Eye color tropes (or at least Green Eyes) attract a lot of pointless hair-splitting about what exact color eye a character has, and I see no reason to encourage this by splitting what is essentially the same trope by subjective color differences.

Suggested disambig text:


Gray Eyes are a common eye color in some parts of the world, but they are not a trope. You may want one of these instead:

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Aug 16th 2019 at 12:06:05 PM

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Aug 17th 2019 at 9:05:29 PM

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"An ear for an ear makes it hard to hear." —Gaston (Animal Crossing: New Horizons)
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She/her
Aug 21st 2019 at 5:19:18 AM

The suggested disambig text looks good.

Links for self reference: English Localization Cleanup and Appearance Tropes Cleanup
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naturalironist from The Information Superhighway Relationship Status: TV Tropes ruined my love life
Sep 4th 2019 at 9:04:17 PM

A few weeks ago, ~lukaSylvie edited the description of Gray Eyes in several ways. I PM-ed them about it but they haven't responded.

They removed references to Meaningful Appearance on the grounds that it's not a trope (it is). Seems to me that we've been consistently treating Meaningful Appearance as a trope in this thread.

They also changed Icy Gray Eyes to Icy Blue Eyes and ditto for Innocent Gray Eyes. I'm not sure what the exact policy on using redirects vs main trope names is, but if the redirects are to be used on any page I think they should be used here.

Requesting permission/consensus to revert to the description previously posted/discussed in this thread so as not to cause an edit war.

Edited by naturalironist on Sep 4th 2019 at 12:05:45 PM

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Sep 4th 2019 at 10:29:32 PM

I agree. If they want to change these things, they should discuss them.

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She/her
Sep 19th 2019 at 11:58:00 AM

Soo is it ok to put it back now?

Links for self reference: English Localization Cleanup and Appearance Tropes Cleanup
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Oct 10th 2019 at 2:08:35 PM

As pointed out in this ATT entry, I don't think it's notable for Big Little Brother to include examples of younger brothers being taller than older sisters if they're both fully grown, since that's the norm. There are also a few examples on the page of second-born twins being taller, which isn't really unexpected at all.

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naturalironist from The Information Superhighway Relationship Status: TV Tropes ruined my love life
Oct 10th 2019 at 5:57:16 PM

I would agree, and I think that's already implied by the trope description, even if not stated outright.

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Oct 27th 2019 at 10:00:52 AM

Hi, I've a question — so over at the TLP discard project we've been nuking old, poorly-made, or redundant TL Ps that just take up space. My question is: what should we do about appearance trope drafts? Some of them are very obviously unnecessary and discarded (eg. Tragic Beauty Mark), but what about Not A Trope appearance things like Ambiguously Auburn. Can we go ahead and nuke 'em?

On that note, what do we do about launchworthy appearance trope drafts that people agree are valid ideas, like Renowned For their Hair? Is approval from the mods necessary to get these launched?

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Oct 27th 2019 at 7:05:08 PM

[up] It was said in the comments here: "No new appearance tropes are permitted right now. Please participate in the cleanup thread if you want to help move things forward."

rjd1922 Image Pickin' regular from Illinois Relationship Status: Love is for the living, Sal
Image Pickin' regular
Oct 27th 2019 at 7:43:43 PM

[up]Fighteer's post was over a year ago. What other appearance tropes still have to be cleaned up? Are we far enough along now that we can launch tropes like Bubbly Blonde?

Keet cleanup
naturalironist from The Information Superhighway Relationship Status: TV Tropes ruined my love life
Oct 27th 2019 at 8:42:56 PM

There have been a number of appearance tropes in need of work that have been brought up to come back to later while we were still working on eye tropes (iirc Funny Afro, Fingerless Gloves, Heroes Want Redheads, Significant Green-Eyed Redhead). We should also probably discuss whether the rest of the eye tropes need help as well.

Yeah idk what the status on good, launchworthy appearance tropes on the TLP is. I was able to get Artsy Beret launched without a fuss from the mods recently...

Edited by naturalironist on Oct 27th 2019 at 11:43:56 AM

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naturalironist from The Information Superhighway Relationship Status: TV Tropes ruined my love life
Nov 6th 2019 at 8:44:04 AM

Wondering what to do with entries like this one, from Characters.Wonder Woman Gods:

  • Gray Eyes: Frequent attention is called to her grey eyes, which see all.

It's called attention to by the narrative and is a defining trait, which seems noteworthy, but it's not quite What Beautiful Eyes!. Anything to do with Athena in media is similar.

"It's just a show; I should really just relax"
Nov 6th 2019 at 9:00:47 AM

[up] Since the noteworthy aspect of her eyes besides the color is that they "see all," it might be a downplayed example of Prophet Eyes? Although those are described as "cataracted," not merely gray in color, so maybe not.

It might be one of those things that is significant but just plain doesn't fit neatly into any specific trope and is better off deleted.

Nov 25th 2019 at 11:32:31 AM

Update bump! 57 wicks remaining

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Nov 25th 2019 at 2:47:56 PM

Now down to 27.

Edited by Brainulator9 on Nov 25th 2019 at 5:48:17 AM

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Nov 29th 2019 at 12:58:32 AM

Currently 17, the Main 2 should stay.


Renowned For Their Hair TLP. Is it not an appearance trope since it's about In-Universe references to people's hair?

Edited by Malady on Nov 29th 2019 at 1:01:12 AM

Help with possible disambig and redirect issues!

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