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Currently on the table: Green Eyes

There is on TV Tropes, a common bad habit that persists among editors of using appearance tropes, or names that sound like they could be appearance tropes, badly. They always suffer from the same problems and they tend to clog up the TRS like they're on a revolving door. As such I'm making a large scale special effort in order to address the common problems all of these tropes have.

Sometimes non-appearance tropes are mistaken for appearance tropes. Report them here and the clean-up will be handled.

We're going to search for the best ways to change the culture and make sure that the misuse stops. Tropes will be handled here and we'll likely have a fair number of crowners on this thread. Keep checking back for new developments.

For full details, including the to-do list and crowner list, check this post.

All appearance tropes that show more than 50% misuse and/or ZCEs on a wick check may be cut freely after posting the wick check here on the thread for approval as per crowner results.

Edited by SeptimusHeap on Aug 30th 2018 at 9:49:08 PM

SeptimusHeap from Bern, Switzerland Relationship Status: Mu
Dec 7th 2012 at 9:17:56 AM

We can't have more than one crowner on the same thread. We first need to do this one.

deathpigeon Relationship Status: One True Dodecahedron
Dec 7th 2012 at 9:21:08 AM

We appear to have a consensus on this one. No one has voted up Hair And Heart Of Gold and no one has voted down Hair of Gold, Heart of Gold. We've had at least 16 people vote.

SeptimusHeap from Bern, Switzerland Relationship Status: Mu
Dec 7th 2012 at 9:24:21 AM

It's been just one day, though.

deathpigeon Relationship Status: One True Dodecahedron
Dec 7th 2012 at 9:26:55 AM

...True, but it has been an overwhelming push for one and against the other.

shimaspawn from Here and Now Relationship Status: In your bunk
Dec 7th 2012 at 9:32:06 AM

There's a reason I have a crowner section in the first post. Go ahead and make crowners that we need and I'll link them all there.

Reality is that, which when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away. -Philip K. Dick
lu127 Paper Master from 空蝉丸
Dec 7th 2012 at 9:36:25 AM

I want a Page Action for Shiny Midnight Black, but my only thought is to kill it with extreme prejudice. I've only seen one other alternative so far, and I'm not sure it works.

shimaspawn from Here and Now Relationship Status: In your bunk
Dec 7th 2012 at 9:50:03 AM

Make the crowners. They can gather votes in the first post and then I'll stick them on the thread to finish, but it will serve as a record of what we're working on.

Reality is that, which when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away. -Philip K. Dick
lu127 Paper Master from 空蝉丸
Dec 7th 2012 at 9:55:39 AM

Ok, made and reserved for future use. I really can't think of any way it's salvageable.

troacctid "µ." from California
Dec 7th 2012 at 12:27:10 PM

We could shorten Appearance As Plot Device to Appearance As Device, like we do for Characters as Device.

And Green Eyes needs to die. Obvious chairs.

edited 7th Dec '12 12:28:37 PM by troacctid

Rhymes with "Protracted."
ArcadesSabboth from Mother Earth
Dec 7th 2012 at 12:28:53 PM

Should we go thru the Shiny Midnight Black examples and see if there are any actual meaning tropes that show up repeatedly? There might be one.

edited 7th Dec '12 12:40:49 PM by ArcadesSabboth

Oppression anywhere is a threat to democracy everywhere.
SeptimusHeap from Bern, Switzerland Relationship Status: Mu
troacctid "µ." from California
Dec 7th 2012 at 12:33:48 PM

I gave it a skim. Pretty much all X Just X. I don't think there's anything worth saving. Or if there is a tropable something-or-other, there's nothing on the current page that could be salvaged for it.

The visual representation of hair-shine might qualify as a type of Briffits and Squeans, I guess.

edited 7th Dec '12 12:34:44 PM by troacctid

Rhymes with "Protracted."
SeptimusHeap from Bern, Switzerland Relationship Status: Mu
Dec 7th 2012 at 12:35:28 PM

With 202 inbounds, we might consider redirecting it if we can't cut it.

InsanityPrelude Relationship Status: Crazy Cat Lady
Dec 7th 2012 at 12:35:54 PM

Meaningful Appearance? ... Traits? I'm not good with naming.

ArcadesSabboth from Mother Earth
Dec 7th 2012 at 12:40:56 PM

Let me see...nope, nothing. At most I'd say it's a visual trope in which blue or purple is used to distinguish black hair from merely dark brown hair. But if that's going to stay it should be example-less.

The really silly part is where some examples that do have context refer vaguely to "the" personality or stereotype, as though the description mentioned one.

edited 7th Dec '12 12:43:02 PM by ArcadesSabboth

Oppression anywhere is a threat to democracy everywhere.
shimaspawn from Here and Now Relationship Status: In your bunk
Dec 7th 2012 at 12:48:57 PM

I think we can keep it as an exampleless definition for an animation convention.

Reality is that, which when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away. -Philip K. Dick
ArcadesSabboth from Mother Earth
Dec 7th 2012 at 12:52:50 PM

[up]Shall I add that option to the crowner?

Oppression anywhere is a threat to democracy everywhere.
shimaspawn from Here and Now Relationship Status: In your bunk
Dec 7th 2012 at 12:53:43 PM

[up] Go ahead

Reality is that, which when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away. -Philip K. Dick
lu127 Paper Master from 空蝉丸
Dec 7th 2012 at 12:54:51 PM

What to do with wicks though? They are always the worst kind of ZCE because, well, there's really nothing to say.

edited 7th Dec '12 12:55:05 PM by lu127

SeptimusHeap from Bern, Switzerland Relationship Status: Mu
Madrugada Zzzzzzzzzz Relationship Status: In season
Zzzzzzzzzz
Dec 7th 2012 at 12:56:22 PM

I'd rather not see the new name be specific to "Plot Device", since many appearance tropes are really characterization devices, rather than plot devices.

...if you don’t love you’re dead, and if you do, they’ll kill you for it.
Dec 7th 2012 at 12:56:27 PM

Was splitting off a Predatory Gold Eyes trope shot down in the other thread, or just forgotten? Because I've noted a few Gold Eyes wicks have been deleted that would fit fine for that.

[down] Ah, yes, that works. Thanks.

edited 7th Dec '12 12:58:47 PM by Discar

shimaspawn from Here and Now Relationship Status: In your bunk
Dec 7th 2012 at 12:57:56 PM

[up] It was shot down in YKTTW as too close to Animal Eyes.

[up][up] Looks As Device then? Since it's both plot and characterization and there's no reason to separate the two. Or Significant Appearance.

edited 7th Dec '12 12:58:58 PM by shimaspawn

Reality is that, which when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away. -Philip K. Dick
SeptimusHeap from Bern, Switzerland Relationship Status: Mu
Dec 7th 2012 at 1:00:26 PM

I wonder if we'll get an eye colour meso-trope along with the one you are proposing.

troacctid "µ." from California
Dec 7th 2012 at 1:02:39 PM

Instead of Predatory Gold Eyes, couldn't that just be an Internal Subtrope of the trope for catlike eyes being used that way? The association comes from cats, right? May as well include the different ways you can evoke cat eyes.

Rhymes with "Protracted."

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19th Jul '19 9:33:52 PM
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