Prematurely launched pages and pages that weren't fully fleshed out at the point of launching, are a big problem. Since these usually share several problems at once, this thread is aimed at re-running them through the TLP for fixing - the usual fix - or cutting them if they are too bad.
Problems this thread deals with include bad names, not enough/bad examples, unclear description, etc.
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Edited by MacronNotes on Jun 24th 2023 at 12:24:55 PM
I think it needs a cutlisting. "Altered in the DVD release or special edition release" is not a trope; at best it's trivia.
"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"Trivia is not a cut reason. I don't feel it's complainy, but it might be masked by the long description.
"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard FeynmanIs it too late to bring up The Rich Are Evil?
"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard FeynmanNo. I'll shove that in YKTTW for examples.
EDIT: Scratch that; it's a duplicate of Aristocrats Are Evil, which is in TRS. Cutlist?
edited 5th Jan '13 8:49:59 AM by Telcontar
That was the amazing part. Things just keep going.+1 to torch as duplicate.
"Polite life will fill you full of cancer." - Iggy Pop "I've seen the future, brother, it is murder." -Leonard CohenJust stumbled across Flashback Within a Flashback. Zero examples! Not sure how old it is, but the edit history goes back to June. It desperately needs help.
eta: (It, obviously, never went through YKTTW.)
edited 14th Jan '13 11:46:23 AM by Xtifr
Speaking words of fandom: let it squee, let it squee.Send that one to YKTTW.
Oppression anywhere is a threat to democracy everywhere.Any idea how old the Company Town article is? Did it ever go through YKTTW? (We have a recent YKTTW on it that's either a stealth TRS or a description redux, which is either a bad or good thing depending on which side of that line it falls on.)
An Ear Worm is like a Rickroll: It is never going to give you up.Well, the Internet Archive first crawled it on 6-Jan-2007. At that date it had a 3-sentence description, 1 index, and 3 examples. I can't get the old related to page working to count wicks — I doubt Internet Archive crawled those.
Oppression anywhere is a threat to democracy everywhere.Hmm. Before I opened the page I was thinking it was referring to the concept of "company town" like what was prevalent during the "Robber Baron" era in the US, with company-issued scrip good only at company stores, which was basically an alternate form of slavery with debt as the chains.
All your safe space are belong to TrumpOkay, so it's not really a premature YKTTW then.
An Ear Worm is like a Rickroll: It is never going to give you up.^ Yeah, more like TRS material (when there's an opening).
All your safe space are belong to TrumpPicked Flowers Are Dead is borderline, but I thought I'd bring it here for discussion. Just launched with only six examples and no hats. I honestly can't decide; it might simply be a rare trope.
Speaking words of fandom: let it squee, let it squee.The formatting was bad but it has plenty of indices...
Edit: Added a 7th example.
edited 21st Jan '13 5:12:17 PM by ArcadesSabboth
Oppression anywhere is a threat to democracy everywhere.I think it could probably use a bit of a re-work on the description, if nothing else.
edited 21st Jan '13 5:02:08 PM by Nocturna
The name is kind of awkward, but the trope makes sense. I know I've seen it in works before, I just can't come up with a specific one right now or I'd go add examples...
On the matter of Company Town, The Other Wiki uses the term for towns owned and run by a single company, as Nohbody guessed. Highly misleading name, needs a rename, but I don't know if this is the thread to do it. It's a valid trope, all right.
A blog that gets updated on a geological timescale.Whether a total rework of the trope page to bring it in line with what WP says or just a rename of the existing content, I'd say it's still TRS material, and not really suited for this project.
edited 26th Jan '13 11:47:54 AM by Nohbody
All your safe space are belong to TrumpNorwegian Bickering was just brought up on Ask The Tropers. It got referred to here.
Among other problems, it never went through YKTTW, and it is nothing but "Real Life" examples.
edited 29th Jan '13 8:11:42 AM by Catbert
That looks more like a national stereotype than a trope. Ax it.
"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard FeynmanStereotypes can be tropes if used enough in fiction, but lacking any fictional examples, I would agree that it needs to be cut.
I've invited the person that apparently made the page to this thread to discuss.
19 wicks, a general example list - might need a kickback to YKTTW.
"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman