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TLP Crash Rescue - Fixing prematurely launched TLPs and pages

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Prematurely launched pages and pages that weren't fully fleshed out at the point of launching, are a big problem. Since these usually share several problems at once, this thread is aimed at re-running them through the TLP for fixing - the usual fix - or cutting them if they are too bad.

Problems this thread deals with include bad names, not enough/bad examples, unclear description, etc.

For the interested, here's a list of recently created pages. Launches

Note: Please do not request a mod to unlaunch drafts that don't have any issues besides lacking a launch notice/24hr launch notice. While 24hr launch notices are mandatory, there are a few exceptions to the rule. If you see a draft's sponsor launch a TLP without an announcement, it's best to remind them of our TLP Guidelines first. If they continue to repeatedly launch drafts without a launch notice, you can report them on Ask The Tropers or the TLP Community Issues thread.

Edited by MacronNotes on Jun 24th 2023 at 12:24:55 PM

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#11901: Jul 16th 2023 at 12:17:06 AM

Regarding [up]x4 Looks like Doomed Practical Team did have a launch date but it was under the description for the draft which made it easy to miss. However, the draft still launched with people asking why their examples weren't added so that should at least be addressed before the draft is launched again.

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themayorofsimpleton Short-Term Projects Herald | he/him from the Island of Koridai (Captain) Relationship Status: I won't say I'm in love
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#11902: Jul 16th 2023 at 9:20:31 AM

Rear End Writing launched with 10 bombs and multiple comments expressing concern over the viability of the trope. Can’t easily link on mobile but you can see them in the draft.

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Amonimus the "Retromancer" from <<|Wiki Talk|>> (Sergeant) Relationship Status: In another castle
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#11903: Jul 16th 2023 at 9:31:34 AM

here. It has 7 net hats though. Not sure what concerns were unaddressed.

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Yindee Just stoic wisdom. from New England Since: Jul, 2016
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#11904: Jul 16th 2023 at 9:38:18 AM

A couple people expressed reservations. ReginaldOgron said it'd devolve into PSOC, intastiel and badtothebari cited the deprecation of Butt Brand, Khoshekh pointed to the existence of Intimate Marks. Drakos, the OP, responded to and disagreed with each of these.

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#11905: Jul 16th 2023 at 9:52:00 AM

The idea is covered by Intimate Marks as stated on the draft. I am not sure if a subtrope is needed.

If people think we should send the TLP back, I am willing to do that.

Edited by MacronNotes on Jul 16th 2023 at 12:52:07 PM

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amathieu13 Since: Aug, 2013
#11906: Jul 16th 2023 at 10:01:57 AM

[up]i say send it back. the redundancy issues are valid ones

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#11907: Jul 16th 2023 at 10:06:08 AM

Given the concerns, [tup] to sending it back

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#11908: Jul 16th 2023 at 10:29:08 AM

I sent the draft back to due to tropeworthiness and duplication concerns.

~Drakos 25

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themayorofsimpleton Short-Term Projects Herald | he/him from the Island of Koridai (Captain) Relationship Status: I won't say I'm in love
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#11909: Jul 17th 2023 at 6:38:24 AM

I don't see a launch date in the history of The Internet Is an Ocean. I know that we don't really do much for stealth launching anymore, but was that OK?

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#11910: Jul 17th 2023 at 6:55:59 AM

I see in the history that Malady set the launch date to the 17th beforehand so it's all good.

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themayorofsimpleton Short-Term Projects Herald | he/him from the Island of Koridai (Captain) Relationship Status: I won't say I'm in love
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#11911: Jul 17th 2023 at 7:00:27 AM

[up] It seems I missed that. I checked the history and everything, not sure how I didn't notice that.

Apologies. I'll look harder next time.

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Larkmarn Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Hello, I love you
#11912: Jul 20th 2023 at 9:03:14 AM

So, this is kinda a weird one in my opinion.

Doomed Tactical Team was recently launched and is, as-written, a complete copy of Red Shirt Army as it's written. However, I think that's more Red Shirt Army's fault for Example As Thesis. I think Red Shirt Army has moved past "group of elite 'Navy SEA Ls, Army Rangers, Space Marines, a SWAT Team, or some other heavily-armed and, one would assume, well-trained unit. Invariably, mere minutes into the mission, they've all been ambushed and killed off by the platoon-load, leaving only the hero alive to finish the job.'" The trope just doesn't have the association with elites that DTT does. It might be Trope Decay or what but I do think they're distinct at this point.

So maybe this complaint should go to the trope description improvement drive, but I wanted to bring it up here while it's still relevant-ish.

EDIT: So, I actually looked at the TLP draft and the last post by someone-other-than-the-OP was a pretty lengthy number of issues that were completely unaddressed by the OP before he launched.

Edited by Larkmarn on Jul 20th 2023 at 12:52:40 PM

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#11913: Jul 20th 2023 at 9:56:09 AM

I already sent it back twice. The second time I was mistaken by the launch date but there were servers examples that weren't addressed.

~Ideal Hero 117

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#11914: Jul 20th 2023 at 10:30:32 AM

I have decided to unlaunch draft back again and put it on hold.

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#11915: Jul 25th 2023 at 10:40:17 AM

It looks like Joke Title, Real Role was rogue launched, though the launcher commented at one point as if they were a sponsor so... maybe it's a multiple-account situation? Or just a very stealthy adoption process?

Edited by WarJay77 on Jul 25th 2023 at 1:41:23 PM

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#11916: Jul 25th 2023 at 12:06:15 PM

The subitofortissimo account was deleted but they share similar geolocation to ~Tropers/meloncauliflower

Melon, if you are the original sponsor of Joke Title, Real Role, it would have been ideal if you made that clear beforehand so it wouldn't look like you rogue launched the draft.

Edited by MacronNotes on Jul 25th 2023 at 3:07:39 PM

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meloncauliflower Since: Feb, 2023
#11917: Jul 25th 2023 at 4:00:53 PM

^ Yes that was I. Sorry for causing confusion.

FernandoLemon Since: Aug, 2015
#11918: Jul 29th 2023 at 7:52:52 AM

I'm pretty sure this is the wrong thread for it, but I don't know what would be the correct one.

Our latest trope, Trivia Meme Role Reprisal has an incorrect name, as this TRS thread showed that the word "Reprisal" is completely wrong in this context, the correct word being "Reprise". ("Reprisal" means an act of retaliation, most traditionally an attack during a war.)

Edited by FernandoLemon on Jul 29th 2023 at 11:57:48 AM

IkeaHan Franchouchou Sponsor from Kamurocho, Tokyo Since: May, 2021 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
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#11919: Jul 29th 2023 at 7:58:23 AM

I was going to point out that "Trivia" should not be in the word, that's the launch error.

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FernandoLemon Since: Aug, 2015
#11920: Jul 29th 2023 at 8:02:31 AM

[up] Well, you can fix both when a mod un-launches. (I think that's what you do in this situation? I'm not as well-acquainted with TLP as other parts of the wiki.)

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#11921: Jul 29th 2023 at 8:23:45 AM

I unlaunched and relaunched the draft as Meme Role Reprisal

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FernandoLemon Since: Aug, 2015
#11922: Jul 29th 2023 at 8:39:51 AM

[up] Like I said, shouldn't it be Reprise, not Reprisal?

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#11923: Jul 29th 2023 at 8:45:17 AM

Well, I didn't pay attention to that. I'll relaunch it again as Meme Role Reprise because that appears to be the correct word.

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UFOYeah Since: Mar, 2022
#11924: Jul 30th 2023 at 8:18:52 AM

I think Forced Gender Reassignment Horror has been rogue/stealth launched by Thorgal 14. As the history shows, there were only a few brief changes made just before launch, no indication of a launching date, and prior to today, the draft hadn't seen any activity since May 2021.

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#11925: Jul 30th 2023 at 8:21:15 AM

Unlaunched the draft and issued a suspension.

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